#NotreDame investigation has concluded and ND decides to hold a 5th player out of competition. Player's identity not revealed.
This is maaaaybe premature there, ESPN. Maryland #1 FWIW.
Dang, I can't type fast enough.
but I sense that we will see all five of these guys on the field a week from Saturday.
And have ND risk vacating these games if the players were found to be ineligible? You didn't think this one through did you?
According to virtually every source, they are definitely out for at least this Saturday, but the timeline is sketchy after that, it seems. Kelly did indicate in a Sun-Times interview that there was supposed to be a meeting sometime in the coming week with Swarbrick about where the investigation stood, so I bet the next major update to this story comes perhaps this time next week.
It puts them significantly behind us in race for the "Winningest Program of All TIme" title, based on win percent.
They always made a big deal about owning this title back in the day until we took it from them. They took it back at the end of last year, but only by 1 or 2 games. If they vacate a bunch of games, it puts us back in front by good amount.
The first four were booted from the team. They arent playing this year.
They are investigating, perhaps even done investigating, then it gets turned over to some kind of Honor Court. They are out, pending the result of that proceeding.
Is Honor Court similar to the Reslife thing that forced Golson to sit out one year?
No, it's a bit more like thunderdome
which is why you always need to be cautious with BREAKING TWITTER NEWS. They were just suspended, I believe pending a full investigation
If the investigation is concluded and these guys were going to be back on the field shortly, you'd be seeing them returned to the team immediately. The only reason to continue to hold them out (and add a 5th) is if the school's investigation has determined that they either face a school suspension and/or are now academically ineligible. I expect that the quasi-judicial process for the school starts now and the players aren't back until it reaches a conclusion. I highly doubt that happens in 10 days.
For a year. For cheating on a test. These kids cheated on papers they won't be back next week.
How amazing would it be if Golson is the 5th guy? Ohhhh man imagine the Irish fans finding out their qb is out again.
Agh didn't scroll down far enough
Im pretty sure Golson's year suspension was a second offense. The larger issue for ND is that a tutor (i.e. a member of the staff) was involved. This potentially had major ramifications for the program beyond the individual player suspensions.
The whole situation has gotten far less attention than I would of expected. Came out on a Friday night and it was bad, but we really haven't heard much if anything about it since then.
Once the major new broke, there really wasn't much mroe to report. But now that the investigation is over, it has the chance for some more run. Brian Kelly is supposed to be having a press conference shortly. It will be interesting to see what they found and how much news coveragethose findings get going forward (given football is actually starting, probably not much)
And didn't the fake drowning nephew story come out about then?
"To Hell with Notre Dame"
university official confirms ND defensive back Eilar Hardy is the 5th person now being held out of practice pending academic investigation
Their secondary is reaching depth levels of Michigan 2009.
Coach Brain Kelly to talk to the media shortly. Going to carry it here locally on radio.
I don't think that meme means what you think it means.
I like this better than the pedo stuff, though.
I laughed at this meme. hahahaha! :) I was thinking the same thing though.
As Charlie "you gonna eat that?" Weiss would say
... every answer should be, "Did we mess up? Yeah. But at least we didn't send a press release out about a fake rescue that was actually a potential criminal activity... Oh, and at least my players aren't quitting while blasting me for being a racist."
Then in Sark's press release he can say, "Did we mess up? Sure, but at least my players aren't ringleaders in an institutionalized cheating ring. And, we don't cover up potential domestic abuse that leads to victim's suicides, and don't even get me started about the poor AV kid who died during a practice."
...then somebody brings up Ohio state and tatgate, and the they're like, "yeah, but at least we aren't Miami..."
Then Miami says, "Mind your own damn business, URBAN. At least we're not SMU...and what the HELL are you doing to that cooler???"
Then SMU says, "Holy frick, sure Craig James killed all those hookers (allegedly), but that was like a hundred years ago, leave us alone. Besides, its not like we're Penn State."
Then Penn State says, "Yeah...Ok. Yeah."
You know those "Ann Arbor is a Whore" t-shirts that our rivals somehow find funny? It's gonna be tough for an NDU fan to walk around wearing one of those when the immediate rejoinder is "Your Players Are Whores".
After all, if the tutorial stories prove to be true, those players were trading sexual services for compensation. Of course if any t-shirt were produced in Ann Arbor regarding this situation, they may well use less judgmental language and say "NDU's Players Are Sex Workers" which would be ... pretty great.
It's just ND, not NDU.
It's the University of Notre Dame, not Notre Dame University. And the University of Notre Dame's football players are Sex Workers. Allegedly.
I hope Craig James does not kill these five alleged ND sex workers. That would be awful.
That would be a story similar to Craig James killing FIVE hookers while at SMU!
Where have you read these stories you speak of?
But it was on the ND message boards when the story first broke. The scuttlebutt was that the tutor was writing the students' papers in trade for them sexing her up something proper. It's all hearsay, but it's really funny hearsay that might prove true.
And to Hell with Notre Dame!
You will write my papers for me and I get to have sex with you? Does not seem like a question very hard for 20 year Olds to answer.
How many starters has ND lost from last year if you include the suspended players? Does anyone know? It has to be around half of last years starters that are now gone or suspended.
Probably 12 or 13 depending on how you count. For instance, Rees is a lost starter, but Golson would have been the starter absent his suspension. That number doesn't include Ishaq Williams who was a would be starter.
Damn Eliar of all people. Him and one of my brothers are super tight. That's really shocking. Wow.
Kelly says he doesn't know if any former
#NotreDame players are involved in academic investigation.
Mostly tap dancing going on with press conference. The investigation phase is claimed to have been completed. Next part of the process is to evaluate the results of investigation by "Honor code board hearing", ect, ect.
Starting to look like a little smoke perhaps?
but I don't care. I hope they have to start their 2nd string and I hope the score is 90-0 with the MMB playing the Chicken Dance as ND trudges off the field at the end of the game
and the hits just keep on comin
It could get ugly back in the secondary. Maybe a good time to throw some Pepper on that?
The whole deal was pending students returning as their is some student/faculty board that weighs in on the investigation. All of them could be back, or none of them could be back.
This just isn't popcorn worthy yet. I need more.
from what i was seeing on notre dame message boards - 3 of the original 4 are going to be found innocent.. so i think you guys are getting your hopes up too much.
also supposedly it was not really cheating (hence the innocence of the 3). the athletes were sending their papers to other students to proof read and make corrections, then the students were sending it back. they are digging into their emails and thats what they are finding. only 1 of the 4 took it too far (which is rumored to be kendall moore).