Michigan:
Offense - 97
Defense - 94
Special Teams - 91
Prestige - 6
http://forums.traditionsportsonline.com/threads/ncaa-13-team-ratings.78725/
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NCAA 13 Team Ratings are out
June 5th, 2012 at 4:34 PM
#1
NCAA 13 Team Ratings are out
June 5th, 2012 at 4:41 PM
#2
First thing I see is Michigan
First thing I see is Michigan D > Alabama D. Mattison uber alles.
EDIT: Also BS on 99 for LSU offense.
June 5th, 2012 at 4:46 PM
#3
Tulsa?
91 Offense & 89 Defense?
June 5th, 2012 at 5:30 PM
#4
I don't think LSU's 99
I don't think LSU's 99 offense is BS. Didn't you hear what they did to Tiger Stadium after the National Championship?
June 6th, 2012 at 6:23 PM
#5
First thing I see is that 97
First thing I see is that 97 is our overall, not offense. It clearly says in the post "Overall - Offense - Defense - Prestige" yet OP added special teams instead of overall...
Also, our defense is rated lower than Alabama's and LSU isn't rated with a 99 offense.
June 5th, 2012 at 4:40 PM
#6
I have glanced through their
I have glanced through their site, but it doesn't seem like much has changed from 12. Am I wrong on this? I'm not going to buy the game unless they have some pretty hefty new features.
June 5th, 2012 at 4:43 PM
#7
They've added one new
They've added one new spectator. Besides that the game is unchanged.
June 5th, 2012 at 4:45 PM
#8
The game has a few new
The game has a few new features/updates/improvements. Of course that would defy the logic that no competition makes them put out crap every year without worrying about it.
June 5th, 2012 at 4:44 PM
#9
I'm not going to buy the game
I'm not going to buy the game unless they have some pretty hefty new features.
Isn't that what everyone says, every year?
June 5th, 2012 at 4:57 PM
#10
I don't know what everyone
I don't know what everyone else says. In the past I've purchased it for major changes to the team (RR being hired) or major changes in the game (custom playbooks). I don't really see any changes that would affect my game play, which is why I'm asking.
June 5th, 2012 at 5:10 PM
#11
Rule of thumb I have is to
Rule of thumb I have is to buy it every other year.
June 5th, 2012 at 7:43 PM
#12
Its like breathing, I just
Its like breathing, I just buy it without thinking of it, without telling myself to do it, it just happens.
June 5th, 2012 at 5:06 PM
#13
Just a few bug fixes and new
Just a few bug fixes and new rosters, as usual. I know I wont be buying it.
June 5th, 2012 at 4:42 PM
#14
I'm gonna be honest, us
I'm gonna be honest, us having a better D than Sparty doesnt make a lot of sense to me this year especially, w our question marks up front.
June 5th, 2012 at 4:53 PM
#15
More importantly... Our d
More importantly... Our d higher than Alabama's
June 5th, 2012 at 4:42 PM
#16
Calm down
A prestige rating of 6 is the maximum rating.
June 5th, 2012 at 5:15 PM
#17
How intuitive of them.
How intuitive of them.
June 5th, 2012 at 4:43 PM
#18
Other relevant rankings:
Form will be: name, offense, defense, special teams, prestige
Alabama: 97, 92, 95, 6
Notre Dame: 97, 94, 95, 6
Michigan St.: 93, 89, 89, 4
Ohio: 95, 89, 95, 6
June 5th, 2012 at 4:47 PM
#19
Bama, State, And ohio
all need their o and d ratings switched. ND needs 10 subtracted from all their ratings.
June 5th, 2012 at 4:48 PM
#20
??
So they have MSU's offense (new QB, new WR's, etc) higher rated than their defense?? That would make me want to buy this game for it's "accuracy"
Skimmed through the ratings and it looks like defenses are lower rated across the board...I think I only saw one team with a defense rating above 95 (USC with a 99), while there were many many teams with offenses above 95.
June 5th, 2012 at 4:49 PM
#21
So
So ND is better than Bama?
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That's all
June 5th, 2012 at 10:47 PM
#22
Note
Note: You guys do know that EA doesn't create the overall rankings...right?
They're based on the player ratings and more emphasis is put on starters.
A team with 11 starters at 90...and a bunch of reserves at 60 could have a better overall rating than a team with 11 starters at 85 and a bench full of 80s. The latter is the better unit, but the game may not read it like that (that may be a dramatic example, but it IS weighted).
Also, EA traditionally doesn't "downgrade" players...so if they hyped a kid as a sophomore and he didn't play well, he'll still be good his junior and senior year.
I wouldn't be shocked to see someone like JT Floyd as like a 92 in the game. No disrespect to JT, but that's a big stretch. Someone like Craig Roh, who's started since his freshman year is also likely to be overrated in the game.
Every year I adjust the ratings and make them as realistic as I possibily can compared to other players. I wait until the names come out and then I adjust the top 50 players at each position, and then do Michigan based off that. I also use two pre-season magazines to help, so it's not biased.
The biggest reason I adjust is to boost the freshman and redshirt freshman. With the way you can recruit in the game, guys like Keith Heitzman and Chris Bryant will NEVER see the field in 4 years...in fact, they often get cut. You can make them a respectable rating in the high 70s as redshirt freshman and they eventually become starters or role players as upperclassmen.
June 5th, 2012 at 4:50 PM
#23
And so begins the 14th
And so begins the 14th straight year of MSU fans bitching about how they got screwed on their ratings.
June 5th, 2012 at 4:59 PM
#24
Oregon is not a 6*
Oregon is not a 6*
June 5th, 2012 at 5:13 PM
#25
Agree
There are 14 schools with a 6 rating. There should only be 10 so i think these 4 should be 5's: Oregon, Clemson, Boise St., and Ohio. Picking a 4th was tough, so I made it easy.
Other 6's:
Bama
Auburn
Florida
LSU
Miami
ND
Oklahoma
Texas
USC
Us
June 5th, 2012 at 5:20 PM
#26
Remove Miami IMO
I don't think that Miami deserves to be a 6 right now, or maybe ND doesn't, but I think OSU does.
June 5th, 2012 at 5:33 PM
#27
Boise
Not sure Boise deserves even a 5.
June 5th, 2012 at 6:37 PM
#28
ohio 5, Miami 4
ohio probably should be a five simply because we will never here the end of it if they are not. I feel like Miami should be a five. There previous eight seasons or so have been only mediocre in a relatively weak acc.
June 5th, 2012 at 6:39 PM
#29
correction ohio 6, Miami 5
correction ohio 6, Miami 5
June 5th, 2012 at 6:42 PM
#30
Clemson
has one season where they ALMOST aren't a complete disappointment and they jump 2 stars to a 6 star team?
Sense this does not make.
June 5th, 2012 at 10:57 PM
#31
Auburn and miami...ehhhh
Auburn and miami...ehhhh
June 6th, 2012 at 12:08 PM
#32
Stars only matter for recruiting
The only time when stars are relevant is recruiting in Dynasty mode. There are 14 6* schools, and I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon is one of the 14 biggest recruiting draws for high school kids right now.
The only 6* ratings I would quibble with are Boise State (even with their success, they still can't recruit with the big boys) and Miami (not a recruiting powerhouse recently).
June 5th, 2012 at 7:20 PM
#33
Come on they were shut out by
Come on they were shut out by an SEC defense. That is very good! Ussually because of the SEC speed an offense has negative points at the end of a game.
June 5th, 2012 at 5:13 PM
#34
Clearly EA wasn't dissauded
Clearly EA wasn't dissauded by the Orange Bowl because Clemson still got a 97, 96, 91. And I don't know what compelled them to put Utah at 95, 92 ,91
June 5th, 2012 at 5:56 PM
#35
West Virginia just scored
West Virginia just scored again.
June 5th, 2012 at 5:16 PM
#36
Those ratings are an absolute
Those ratings are an absolute joke.
June 5th, 2012 at 5:16 PM
#37
Top teams based on this
If you were to make a top 25 based on these scores, weighting the offense, defense, and special teams scores equally, you'd get this:
| 1 | Wisconsin |
| 2 | Texas |
| 3 | USC |
| 4 | LSU |
| 5 | Oregon |
| 6 | Notre Dame |
| 7 | Oklahoma |
| 8 | Alabama |
| 9 | Clemson |
| 10 | Florida St. |
| 11 | Michigan |
| 12 | Virginia Tech |
| 13 | Ohio St. |
| 14 | Oklahoma St. |
| 15 | South Carolina |
| 16 | Utah |
| 17 | Arkansas |
| 18 | Georgia |
| 19 | TCU |
| 20 | Auburn |
| 21 | Stanford |
| 22 | Texas Am |
| 23 | Michigan St. |
| 24 | Washington |
| 25 | Nebraska |
Yeah.... that top 25 seems pretty bad to me.
June 5th, 2012 at 5:21 PM
#38
Wisky
Wisconsin being the #1 overall team was the most surprising to me.
June 6th, 2012 at 3:37 PM
#39
Not actually too different
From how the polls actually work...
June 6th, 2012 at 12:10 PM
#40
Not that bad
It certainly doesn't track the consensus polls, but it's not too silly (other than Notre Dame at #6, obviously). And remember, these are based only on video game player ratings - they overrate recruiting hype (as opposed to performance, which leads them to overrate disappointing 4* and 5* recruits - e.g. Notre Dame) and don't take into account things like coaching acumen and experience.
June 5th, 2012 at 5:26 PM
#41
Honestly the only
Honestly the only justification I can see for this is that they want no one to be less than 80. They need a better scale if everyone is in the 90s. If someone's offense is a 45, well, they should play better. If I can autoplay a game against a terrible team and have it not be a blowout, there's something wrong there.
June 5th, 2012 at 7:36 PM
#42
Agreed. If I autoplay a
Agreed. If I autoplay a B1G's first week against a 1-AA team, it shouldn't even be close.
June 5th, 2012 at 5:36 PM
#45
How, and I mean HOW
Is Oregon's defense higher rated than it's offense?
June 5th, 2012 at 5:36 PM
#46
More interested
In Denard's speed. First ever over 100? Assume he will have highest ever speed rating for a QB. Vick, Roberson, White, Crouch and Bollinger have to be up there.
June 5th, 2012 at 5:39 PM
#47
I went out and bought NCAA
I went out and bought NCAA 2006 for $3. Everyone should do the same.
June 5th, 2012 at 5:47 PM
#48
Why the hell didn't you
Why the hell didn't you already have it?
June 5th, 2012 at 6:35 PM
#49
I had it loaded on my PS2
I had it loaded on my PS2 HDD. I want a copy I can take to work.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:21 AM
#52
A few weeks ago, I think you
A few weeks ago, I think you made a comment, along with other people, on how people were still playing NCAA 2006 to this very day. After this, I frantically looked everywhere for my old Xbox and NCAA 2006 game, to no avail.
That was a damn good game, I miss it.
June 6th, 2012 at 12:12 PM
#53
June 5th, 2012 at 5:49 PM
#54
Doesn't it read
Overall Offense Defense
That would seem to make more sense.
June 5th, 2012 at 5:54 PM
#55
Hmmm....
It looks like the site changed it to this now. However, that still makes no sense -- how would a Michigan offense of 94 and defense of 91 add up to an overall of 97?
June 6th, 2012 at 12:18 PM
#56
Aggregation
EA has historically been pretty bad at aggregating player ratings (or, at the very least, the aggregated rating isn't a simple average). But I think part of the reason for this is that a team's aggregate strength isn't necessarily just the average of their offense and defense. For instance, EA might rate Michigan's offense as better than 94/100 of the other offenses in the NCAA and their defense better than 91/100 of the defenses. But since it's hard to have both a good offense and a good defense, this might make their team better than 97/100 of the teams in the NCAA.
Obviously some other factors go into these numbers, but I think this is the general idea.
June 5th, 2012 at 6:17 PM
#57
when i go to the link it says
when i go to the link it says overall, offense, special teams. No defense rating is listed when i look at it
June 5th, 2012 at 6:26 PM
#58
Yeah, weird
That makes no sense to show there, but it's what it is. It also must mean that Michigan has a 98 or 99 defense if we have an overall of 97 with a 94 offense and 91 ST.
June 5th, 2012 at 10:19 PM
#59
Maybe
the overall rating can be higher if both your offense and defense are top rated for each. I think both our O and D are in the 6.
June 5th, 2012 at 5:51 PM
#60
Neutral Site
Are they gonna actually incorporate neutral site games this year ? In the game last year I played a season with Oregon and had to play the first game at LSU NOT cowboy stadium
June 6th, 2012 at 1:45 AM
#61
Hope so. Not looking forward
Hope so. Not looking forward to our season starting in Alabama on the game.
June 5th, 2012 at 6:46 PM
#62
2004 was the best...I
2004 was the best...I played that non stop...League Daddy was the shit.
June 5th, 2012 at 9:09 PM
#63
I have a soft spot for '07.
I have a soft spot for '07. Your receivers could actually burn a corner if he had the speed, and playing with option teams is SO much fun. Pat White was an absolute beast. I could play with WVU or Michigan all day
June 5th, 2012 at 7:30 PM
#64
Terrible. I will not buy NCAA
Terrible. I will not buy NCAA this year, for the first time in a while. I will take a long hard look at Madden though. I think they have a new physics engine this year, but I don't think they have fantasy draft, which kinda sucks.
June 5th, 2012 at 7:42 PM
#65
Here are individual player
Here are individual player ratings for Michigan's offense. I think Denard's ratings got worse... No dreads either.
June 6th, 2012 at 1:42 AM
#66
silver lining
The split M logo has finally been replaced. At least ea sports "gets it" in regards to the current marketing image that the AD wants to trot out there.
June 6th, 2012 at 3:21 PM
#67
They don't have hemmingway's
They don't have hemmingway's new number either.
June 5th, 2012 at 8:26 PM
#68
Some Things
First, NCAA 12 was an excellent game that incorporated a lot of new features like Coaching Carousel and Conference Changes. The issue was the gameplay which after reading reviews of the demo sounds like the gameplay is improved, if not amazing.
Second, don't buy the game on release. Wait two weeks for truly dedicated individuals to re-do their rosters and adjust likenessess (Denard w/dreads), ratings, names, etc. and also for a decent slider set to emerge.
EDIT: I realize "excellent" may be a bit of a leap. It wasn't excellent, but it was good outside of the super-jumping LBs and psychic DBs, and the problems running screens, options, or play action. Okay, fine, the gameplay was bad. But, COACHING CAROUSEL. CONFERENCE REALIGNMENT. I loved that ish.
June 5th, 2012 at 10:33 PM
#69
Texas
I'm gonna chalk Texas as a 99 overall to be a typo because that is IMPOSSILBE. I watched seval of their games and Ash will be no higher than an 86. No chance they have a 99 OFFENSE.
June 5th, 2012 at 11:59 PM
#70
Delete
Delete
June 5th, 2012 at 11:58 PM
#71
...
Everytime I buy this game I get really excited at first. Then I realize that Denard always gets hurt and it is the same game every year. They barely change anything.
June 6th, 2012 at 1:31 AM
#72
My biggest issue
My biggest issue w/this game is the amount of time they force you to spend on recruiting. In the old ones, you would just put recruiting points on players. Now you have to work on each player individually and each one take a few each week and it's way too much of a time committment/
June 6th, 2012 at 3:30 AM
#73
No kidding
I used to love recruiting but now if im playing several seasons I hate it. 30 minutes every week if you really want to get dialed in. Just give me an end of the year only recruiting option so it doesnt take 17 hours to play a season.
June 6th, 2012 at 5:51 AM
#74
NCAA And Madden Aren't What They Used To Be
With Michael Vick and Denard, EA made it impossible to break away and run.
I haven't bought either game since the 2007 versions.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:17 AM
#75
Virginia Tech 99 D. :o Been
Virginia Tech 99 D. :o
Been in NCAA hibernation since 06, so I might get this one. Hear a lot of complaints about gameplay though, "rocket catching", inaccurate defensive play, et cetera
June 6th, 2012 at 12:30 PM
#76
PS3
Hit me up for a game or dynasty. Gamertag: Ih8ohiost8
June 6th, 2012 at 3:19 PM
#77
These ratings are a joke. I
These ratings are a joke. I wont make a comment about Michigans, but LSU with 99 offense? MSU with a better offensive rating than their defensive rating? According to player ratings, MSU's best player is the kicker, and William Gholston isn't even in the top 10. I really hope these are still a work in progress
June 6th, 2012 at 6:20 PM
#78
The only time I ever really
The only time I ever really liked Madden and NCAA was drafting and recruiting. I ended up always getting pissed off instead as things always seemed to be too random for me.
June 6th, 2012 at 10:17 PM
#79
whole roster is up
Michigan starts at 8:06 of video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWi-6qqh1EA&feature=player_embedded
Not a fan of Denard only getting 90 ACC, oh well easy fix
June 6th, 2012 at 10:18 PM
#80
double post
delete
