MSU Trustee calls Fickell ''waffling flake'' on 97.1
February 11th, 2020 at 9:25 AM ^
Man, the MSU BOT really puts the douche in fiduciary
February 11th, 2020 at 9:40 AM ^
+1 for making me actually laugh out loud at my desk. Awesome comment.
February 11th, 2020 at 9:53 AM ^
Cracked me up. Best comment in months. And your username is a classic
February 11th, 2020 at 9:59 AM ^
While I love to laugh at sparty, the op obviously didn’t listen in himself. The trustee never said those words the host did (whos a Michigan fan) the trustee stayed silent. also he said BoT just wanted to be informed, it seems to me like the Sparty fans are making up excuses and blaming everyone but the culture for their failures.
February 11th, 2020 at 10:05 AM ^
He wasn't the first to use those words, but he did reply something like "We don't want a waffling flake" so its really a semantic argument.
February 11th, 2020 at 10:12 AM ^
I know what you’re referring to, he was baited into that. The real issues at MSU are deep rooted, they should of settled with Blackwell a long time ago. With the Michigan AG looking into the basketball rape cases, Nasser, and all the issues surrounding MSU football no decent family man would ever take that job, the BoT didn’t fuck it up with Fickell. Fickell and his wife had a heart to heart and he decided it just wasn’t the right fit at the right time.
February 11th, 2020 at 10:19 AM ^
He is trustee at a major university. Not being baited into saying something stupid while on the radio seems like a basic competency.
There is a reason Coachspeak exists and this would have been the time to use it.
February 11th, 2020 at 10:24 AM ^
I never claimed he wasn’t an idiot for it. The BoT are trying too had to save face because of the uproar on blogs and social media. The school has major major issues going on right now and the fans and alumni refuse to acknowledge them.
February 11th, 2020 at 10:33 AM ^
This.
If Dantonio’s arrogance had not gotten in the way with the “disloyal injustice” betrayed upon him by Blackwell MSU could have paid the man and moved on.
Clownshow may be a bit overused but every single administrator at MSU is just a fucking idiot with poor decision making skills.
February 11th, 2020 at 10:58 AM ^
Seriously, why didn't they just pay Blackwell to go away? How did everyone not know this was going to be the outcome?
February 11th, 2020 at 11:59 AM ^
A theory has come to mind, and I don't know enough of the details to know for sure, but this is the internet so here goes:
This is all downstream of the Nassar scandal. MSU has been under siege. It's self-inflicted, but it's still a siege. They hired Engler to fight, and they still have something of a fighting mentality.
Well, it looks really bad when you fight victims of abuse. Even the smallest efforts to push back, and the smallest failures to affirm the position of the victims, looked rightly horrible, and did so in a very public way. Failure to take every effort to accommodate victims (which, to a wartime conciliary, could be seen as rolling over) could jeopardize everything the university is if the Michigan electorate gets angry.
So they rolled over, or accommodated, depending upon one's perspective.
But then Blackwell is coming after them. And, rightly or not, they may perceive him to just be taking advantage of the situation, striking while the iron is hot. They can't fight abuse victims, but Blackwell is not an abuse victim. He's a former employee. And they have a fighting mentality.
So, in this theory, no way they're just going to roll over for him. If they roll over for him, they'll roll for everyone. So they fight.
But Blackwell fights back, and he has the receipts.
This is just a theory, and I don't have all the facts. But it makes sense: They wanted to fight, couldn't through the Nassar scandal, and decided to stand their ground here. But it turned out to be bad ground to stand on.
February 11th, 2020 at 1:02 PM ^
I enjoy theorizing about these sorts of things, this one sounds reasonable and still just dumb enough for Sparty.
February 11th, 2020 at 1:50 PM ^
I don't disagree with anything here, but will point out that there are ways of pushing back and affirming what happened without being a complete asshat about it. But MSU chose not do so, and instead approached a scorched earth campaign. You can acknowledge pain and suffering, and show empathy, while also publicly fighting to limit damages. People understand that the BOT and school President have a financial responsibility to contain costs/limit damage, and need proof of claim to pay out. Perhaps not limit speakers to 3 minutes of pre-registered BS when you're not advertising a BOT Meeting?
But noooo... Instead, the entire MSU 'braintrust' (if there is such a thing) chose scorched earth tactics to limit voice. They went about it all wrong, and continue to pay the price for doing so.
February 11th, 2020 at 12:14 PM ^
I bet Fickell and his wife didn't even bother discussing timing. They discussed career suicide and how to avoid it. MSU sleaze and incompetence, the gift that keeps on giving.
February 11th, 2020 at 10:09 AM ^
You didn’t listen to all of it, he eventually said, “we don’t want a waffling flake.”
February 11th, 2020 at 10:17 AM ^
“MSU trustee calls Fickell waffling flake” is a click bait title and once inside the post the context of the convo was left out.
February 11th, 2020 at 11:15 AM ^
“we don’t want a waffling flake.”
- Brian Mosallum, right?
I mean, that is directly calling Fickell a "waffling flake" when the conversation is because of, and directed at, Fickell's decision to turn down the job.
February 11th, 2020 at 3:40 PM ^
Good lord the stretches of deductive reasoning in here the past few days are ridiculous.
Mosallum did not say "Fickell is a waffling flake".
Saying Fickell isn't coaching at MSU and not wanting flakes are two different things. Furthermore, which isn't being presented here (but lots of assumptions are) is this quote (emphasis mine):
Samuelsen and Stone then asked Mosallam if he was referring to Fickell as “a waffling flake."
“I’m just saying, in general, there’s a lot of misinformation out there and I think it’s important that some of that stuff clears up.”
February 11th, 2020 at 9:25 AM ^
I am enjoying this.
February 11th, 2020 at 9:26 AM ^
That will not be helpful to attract the next coach.
February 11th, 2020 at 9:29 AM ^
All Bert heard was "WAFFLES" and now he wants the job more than ever.
February 11th, 2020 at 9:53 AM ^
logged in to upvote; thanks for the laugh.
February 11th, 2020 at 11:15 AM ^
I don't care what anyone says, I admire a man in that condition willing to appear in public like that.
Dude just doesn't give a single fuck.
February 11th, 2020 at 12:08 PM ^
Literally LOL’d.
February 11th, 2020 at 4:04 PM ^
Hilarious.
February 11th, 2020 at 9:29 AM ^
Also Scott Bell tweeted this and I don't even understand what is going. Truth is stranger than fiction.
February 11th, 2020 at 9:35 AM ^
"I was hacked"
February 11th, 2020 at 9:48 AM ^
I was hacked....a month ago....and got replies and notifications....and decided to leave it up....
February 11th, 2020 at 9:57 AM ^
And the obvious question: you hack someone's Twitter, and THIS is the prank you pull on them? ?
February 11th, 2020 at 10:15 AM ^
Also, who has their freaking aunt's twitter credentials and what public figure gives their credentials to anyone other than a media manager.
February 11th, 2020 at 9:57 AM ^
I don't use twitter but I like posts everyday.
February 11th, 2020 at 9:48 AM ^
Saw this yesterday, and it is so bizarre. Imagine a Michigan board member falling for a Nigerian Prince email scam. Michigan State, come get your trustee.
February 11th, 2020 at 9:56 AM ^
I have a good friend who happens to be a Nigerian Prince..... Dude's about to hook me up with a TON of cash..... I just gotta cover the cost to wire the funds!
February 11th, 2020 at 9:59 AM ^
What I don't understand is why RCMB posters and other Sparty idiots are bringing this to light. It just further embarrasses the school. IMO, Brianna Scott > Joel Ferguson. That's how bad their trustees are.
February 11th, 2020 at 10:13 AM ^
Because they have finally realized the only way to recover from Mork’s frosting-dipped middle finger to the school, is to BLOW UP EVERYTHING and start over... except Izzo, they want to keep him.
February 11th, 2020 at 10:13 AM ^
Is Ferguson the trustee that this thread is about?
February 11th, 2020 at 11:04 AM ^
I believe it was Brian Mosallam.
February 11th, 2020 at 9:56 AM ^
If you're bored at work and want to kill a couple minutes, read the comments on her tweet blaming it on her niece. Hilarious. And shows that even MSU alumni are fed up with the university.
February 11th, 2020 at 10:31 AM ^
I have no idea what I'm looking at. Was someone giving out money on twitter?
February 11th, 2020 at 10:57 AM ^
It’s a scam on the level of the old “Nigerian Prince” emails of the early aughts. She fell for it ... and then proceeded to write a dissertation on how she would spend the money. It’s pretty fucking hilarious actually.
February 11th, 2020 at 9:31 AM ^
MSU should strongly consider taking a page out of the NFL combine's playbook and start issuing Wonderlic tests to all prospective Trustees.
February 11th, 2020 at 9:34 AM ^
Isn't it an elected position? I'd be cool with all politicians having to take the Wonderlic.
February 11th, 2020 at 10:38 AM ^
Full belly laugh!
February 11th, 2020 at 9:32 AM ^
Somethings in east landfill never change....
February 11th, 2020 at 9:34 AM ^
MSU, the university, is a small place filled with small people. The consistency is impressive, but I feel bad for the countless normal students who wish their school wasn't a shithole.
There's no reason for the state of Michigan to fund such a dysfunctional school.
February 11th, 2020 at 9:35 AM ^
They're so stupid and clueless, they don't even understand the damage they're doing to their own search by publicly criticizing other candidates. I always have and always will have ZERO sympathy for the people who run that school and their idiot supporters who keep tolerating the bad leadership.
February 11th, 2020 at 10:04 AM ^
Dantonio was a good coach who took them to great heights. Full stop.
Thing is, that 2008-2015 run of success went straight to their heads. They call Michigan arrogant and out of touch, but that is exactly what this is. "Take us seriously! Look how good we were! We're a college football powerhouse that deserves respect! People should be crawling over broken glass to coach here!"
They don't pay all that well comparatively. They're in a death machine of a division. They will never out-recruit the 3-4 schools within 3 hours of their front door. Their BoT want to be seen as serious adults the likes of OSU/ND/Michigan but they keep saying and doing stupid shit not even related to the Nassar stuff.
At some point when you look around and no one is calling you to come coach there, maybe take a second and think, "is everyone else ass holes? Or is it us?"
February 11th, 2020 at 10:32 AM ^
Dantonio took them to new heights, yes, but then ask how he was able to do that.