MSU DE Auston Robertson Charged with Criminal Sexual Misconduct

Over/Under 25 3-9 comments.

was fast...and yet we still don't have charges in the other case?  Or officially official released names?

Ok.

I mean, who hasn't misconducted themselves sexually at least one?

Is going to be Red Locked within 30 minutes, that's my bet. 

...and there it is.

A tiger doesn't lose his stripes.

derision for the perpetrator.

They're gonna be out of stock at all major hardware stores very soon!

Guy already got in trouble for sexual assauly in high school? well i hear MSU gives 3-9 second chances to red locked players. 

What happens now?  Is he still on Red Lock or Is he moved to a different lock color?

run its course, but I don't see a scenario that allows him to ever play for MSU with his history and the current environment in EL.

Assuming this is the other shoe dropping that UMBig11 referred to ealier.  Man, what a crapshow of an off-season for MSU.

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(y0ymv3qqc11h24ig20urgijv))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=mcl-750-520d

So their top 3 recruits from that class are all on red lock status? Matt Dantoni recruits class.

Can't sell results when 3 of the top players MSU has signed in year aren't even on the roster next season.

MSU broke the moral stick in half on this one. Robertson didn't have the character to be a D1 athlete yet msu made it happen. He'll be a star at EMCC though

"We will continue to educate and enforce high standards for the program," Dantonio said. "I expect all of our players to conduct themselves in a manner that reflects the values and principles of Michigan State University."

When I think of Michigan State's values and principles, the first thing that comes to mind is not high standards.

http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2017/04/msu_football_player_unde...

the Devil has come to claim Dantonio's soul.

Dantonio's Angels

This is a serious charge - a fifteen year felony.  Here's the statute:

750.520d Criminal sexual conduct in the third degree; felony. Sec. 520d. (1) A person is guilty of criminal sexual conduct in the third degree if the person engages in sexual penetration with another person and if any of the following circumstances exist:

(a) That other person is at least 13 years of age and under 16 years of age.
(b) Force or coercion is used to accomplish the sexual penetration. Force or coercion includes but is not limited to any of the circumstances listed in section 520b(1)(f)(i) to (v).
(c) The actor knows or has reason to know that the victim is mentally incapable, mentally incapacitated, or physically helpless.
(d) That other person is related to the actor by blood or affinity to the third degree and the sexual penetration occurs under circumstances not otherwise prohibited by this chapter. It is an affirmative defense to a prosecution under this subdivision that the other person was in a position of authority over the defendant and used this authority to coerce the defendant to violate this subdivision. The defendant has the burden of proving this defense by a preponderance of the evidence. This subdivision does not apply if both persons are lawfully married to each other at the time of the alleged violation.
(e) That other person is at least 16 years of age but less than 18 years of age and a student at a public school or nonpublic school, and either of the following applies:
(i) The actor is a teacher, substitute teacher, or administrator of that public school, nonpublic school, school district, or intermediate school district. This subparagraph does not apply if the other person is emancipated or if both persons are lawfully married to each other at the time of the alleged violation. (ii) The actor is an employee or a contractual service provider of the public school, nonpublic school, school district, or intermediate school district in which that other person is enrolled, or is a volunteer who is not a student in any public school or nonpublic school, or is an employee of this state or of a local unit of government of this state or of the United States assigned to provide any service to that public school, nonpublic school, school district, or intermediate school district, and the actor uses his or her employee, contractual, or volunteer status to gain access to, or to establish a relationship with, that other person.
(f) That other person is at least 16 years old but less than 26 years of age and is receiving special education services, and either of the following applies:
(i) The actor is a teacher, substitute teacher, administrator, employee, or contractual service provider of the public school, nonpublic school, school district, or intermediate school district from which that other person receives the special education services. This subparagraph does not apply if both persons are lawfully married to each other at the time of the alleged violation. (ii) The actor is a volunteer who is not a student in any public school or nonpublic school, or is an employee of this state or of a local unit of government of this state or of the United States assigned to provide any service to that public school, nonpublic school, school district, or intermediate school district, and the actor uses his or her employee, contractual, or volunteer status to gain access to, or to establish a relationship with, that other person.
(g) The actor is an employee, contractual service provider, or volunteer of a child care organization, or a person licensed to operate a foster family home or a foster family group home, in which that other person is a resident, that other person is at least 16 years of age, and the sexual penetration occurs during that other person's residency. As used in this subdivision, "child care organization", "foster family home", and "foster family group home" mean those terms as defined in section 1 of 1973 PA 116, MCL 722.111.

(2) Criminal sexual conduct in the third degree is a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than 15 years.

Prosecutors don't charge this stuff lightly, so nothing in my eyes to celebrate here.  I hope that justice - whatever that means here given the facts we don't know - is served.

Nice of them to ignore all the red flags that came along with this kid. Well done, sparty....this should come as minimal surprise to you.

maybe hold yourself to a higher standard next time? I know that's not really your M.O. but....

Who are the 3 for 2016?

The 3 top players that year were Josh King, Auston Robertson and Donnie Corley.  3 of the top 5 players in that class were on the DL.  It was a really good DL class, so losing Robertson is pretty big.

King was the stud - they did not lose him did they?

Is this in connection to the ongoing investigation or is this something different entirely?

Thoughts out to the victim and their family and Robertson, hopefully both can live right after this

Bummer

Michigan State coach Mark Dantonio said in a statement at the time that "we will continue to educate and enforce high standards for the program."

... Guess i missed the part where they were enforcing high standards for their program. 

The other 3 will most likely still be a part of the program come fall.  Doesn't look like charges will be filed at this point.

Of course, with all the allegations against the MSU program (not that they all are necessarily true), this could resemble a centipede getting ready for bed...

On the human side, this is just awful.  We all get that, but it's important to note it because if the allegations are true, it's likely that at least two lives will be irremediably damaged.  That transcends the rivalry in my eyes.

On the sports side, this will erode some Dantonio support from above (admin) and below (fan base).  The admin and regents will no doubt be aware that Dantonio took on a known character risk, and the gamble looks like it did not pay off.  That makes Dantonio's judgment look suspect.  All at a time when your school is undergoing an investigation into how it handles sexual assault - not what admins and regents need ever, but especially now.

On the fan side, you have Michigan sports in the headlines for mostly good things (Harbaugh to Rome / good recruits / lots o' players to be drafted / NCAA Tourney Run / Softball Powerhouse / Baseball resurgence) and MSU sports in the headlines for mostly bad things (Kathy Klages, Football scandals, More football scandals).  You'd expect a lot of the bandwagon fans to get off that bandwagon.

What a mess in E. Lansing.

Now they are doing a 180. The MSU trainer, Larry Nassar, story  is as horrific as the Sandusky situation. Every week women are coming forward with new awful stories that are creepier and creepier involving minors and video taping that happened on MSU's campus.

Ouch. After bringing him back from something pretty serious before. That dosn't look good for State. Their great 2016 class is pretty decimated.

Well, I know of at least one jail cell that is open

MSU fans won't jump off the bandwagon, they will just deny and blame Michigan and the press.

I think there is an increasing chance that Dantonio doesn't survive this whole mess.  Big institutions, especially public institutions, cannot fail to address people on watch when bad shit happens.  Otherwise successful, and seemingly untouchable, leaders are being taken out for misbehavior that occurs in their areas of responsibility, even if the bad acts are perpetrated by underlings.  These scandals are an embarassment to MSU at minimum and I think there will be a lot of pressure on the Trustees, president, etc. to make a statement by holding people accountable for what has been happening inside the MSU program. 

Jesus Christ, what the hell is happening in East Lansing?

At this point, just nuke 2017's season and start anew in 2018, MSU.  You really think going 4-8 is going to make all this feel better?

The way his name is spelled, makes me think someone accidentally hit "o" instead of "i." That is all I have to add to this thread.

All I can say is, the only thing the sparties will have to cling to going forward is looking back at the fumbled snap in '15, because that will be the only fond memory they will have against Harbaugh.

It's fucking amazing to see how fast that program melted down after we got Jim on board.

Paging Jim Grobe. Seriously if any of the other 3 players are charged. Sad state of affairs.

On a day when this very unfortunate and ugly news comes out it is announced that Coach Harbaugh and the team will have a private visit with Pope Francis.

When MSU was landing these star DL from Illinois like him and King, I wondered why we didn't go after them. Now I know....

Sounds like Dantoni sold out

Mork's chickens are coming home to roost.

my guess , they wanted this one over and done first so people can say hey see we got somebody, than their gonna let the other 3 and blackwell off

In before the red lock

Since his previous offense was prior to joining the Spartans....I am confused as to the rules of Red Lock.

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2017/04/21/msu-footb...

More details in the article. Apparently, Robertson's girlfriend was in the car outside waiting for him while this went down. Absolutely disgusting human being. 

He threw him off the team. This surprises no one, but with his high school charge he probably should never have played in the first place

Arrested 3 times before brought on campus, 'ridin dirty Dantonio' now just kicked him off the team.

Dantonio's been in East Lansing for a while, lots of incidents, but I think this is the first repeat offender.

This could be fireable, but not in Dantonio's case. Its a huge fuck up.

I'm not one to be overly critical of coaches and discipline, I like when coaches take tough cases and give them a chance at a good life. But its a thin line between that and comproming morality and the safety of students on campus for the sake of winning. I still wouldn't put D in the latter category but its a step towards it.