He's having surgery and out for the season - according to VB at Monday presser:
Molk - Torn ACL
...was the sound of my face slamming into my desk.
WHY OH WHY GOD!!!!! WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO US!
Interesting . . .
hating god did this and you ask why?
No actually it was me hitting the ground after a 100-foot fall.
Well, I think we just kissed 9 wins goodbye. I still think 7 wins is ultimate number, and I would consider that a good season, but I didn't realize how important a healthy Molk was until this past saturday...
Brian may want to consider Molk as MVP for this year's offense in next year's Hail to the Victors.....
anyone know if he's eligible for a medical redshirt?
I was just thinking the same thing. From what I can tell, he played against Western and Notre Dame and was injured at some point during the Eastern game. Then, he returned and played almost none of the Penn State game.
I hope Brian or someone will weigh in on this. For some reason, I thought 3-4 games was the threshold for eligibility for a medical redshirt.
I hope that's true. If we can have him for an additional year, that would be fantastic.
I thought it was 1/3 of the season as a cutoff, but I could be wrong.
IIRC, Brian said you can get a medical redshirt if you miss 30% of the season or less. However, since the NCAA rounds down, playing only 33% of the season (or four games) still gets you in under the rule. This came up for Junior Hemingway last year I believe.
I think, based on NCAA rules, he shoudl be eligible to apply at the end of the season. But if he does get red shirt, what is wrong with this guy that hes falling apart from the ankles up.
Is he just injury prone or is there some other factor that im not considering?
I could be wrong, but I believe Medical Redshirts are applied for at the end of the season. So they likely won't know for awhile.
Didn't Molk already redshirt as a freshmen? I thought that you could only medical redshirt if you still had a redshirt to burn. E.g., Hemmingway played as a true freshmen and that's why he was able to use the medical redshirt his sophomore year. I don't know for sure, though.
The guy hasn't caught a break all season.
Didn't Molk return in the 2nd half? Gutsy performance.
He did. And he had very little lateral movement which resulted in a couple of sacks. But, wow, that's one tough dude, I'd say.
he definatly caught a brake in the foot bone during the Eastern Game.
that just sucks. obviously as a fan you want your best on the field, but for him, putting in so much hard work to get back then catching another bad break.
as pointed out elsewhere, moosman is a pretty good guard and this affects the line in 2 spots with moving him.
best of luck to molk in his recovery.
Well this is definitely a crappy loss for us, but we'll be alright. You can say that he was so important after last Saturday, but our O-line was pretty good at Iowa and Delaware State. Moosman has been pretty good at Center after the MSU game and he'd been practicing at guard all week. After practicing at guard and then unexpectedly having to go back in and play another position, you can't say that our O-line will be bad. We'll be alright. Again, it's a loss, but Moosman is pretty good at Center.
I agree the O-line was quite good against Iowa. But Del. State shouldn't even be considered, and did you miss the safety on Saturday?
When I heard Molk was going to start against PSU, at first I wasn't so sure I wanted it. He is undoubtedly a much better center than Moosman but I felt the O-line was finally gelling together, and bringing Molk back to start after being out for so long might be a mistake. I was wrong. We need him and the line is not even close to as good without him.
I still think we can get 2 (maybe 3) more wins without Molk but this is a huge loss for the team.
I didn't say Moosman played well Saturday. I specifically took the time to attribute his bad game to having practiced at guard all week. After having the Michigan State game as a buffer and having another week to practice, Moosman has shown that he's pretty good when he's able to get in a rhythm practicing at center during the week. Not having that week to practice at center and practicing those snaps when it's not your regular position can really throw you off. Yes I was watching the safety but I just attribute it to not having snapped the ball all week in practice and gotten his timing down with Tate. And AGAIN, I don't deny that this is a loss to the team, I definitely already said that in my previous post, but we'll be alright.
Played in second half the season and more that 20% of the games.
is there a more viable option at center? moose has played well at rg but struggled there.
This guy is a fuckin trooper. Get well soon, good luck in surgery and rehab buddy.
He's already redshirted a year, so a med redshirt is highly, highly unlikely. They usually only give you one to an already-redshirted player if he has a really severe injury that takes him out for over a season.
I don't think anyone will ever be doubting the guys guts though. Trying to play on a torn ACL, damn.
Lots of discussion about Molk getting a medical redshirt ... if you play after the 6th game of the season you're not eligible for a medical redshirt, hands down. PSU was game #8 for Michigan.
Check out a copy of the waiver request:
Date of “half-way point” of the season (1/2 of team’s scheduled events)
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RR said he's out spring too.
If only that magical bone stimulator could heal torn ACLs...
but - here is silver lining folks. Moosman is gone after this year. Most of us at the beginning of the season looked at this as an "under contruction" year. Time to build some experience and depth - this is an opportunity for Khoury or who ever else moves up on the depth chart to get better, hopefully making us stronger next year.
Even with Moosman, this team, when not shooting itself in the foot, can move the ball. We have four winnable games left on the schedule and 2-2 or 3-4 is a possibility.
RR can't catch a break. This year hurts, but this fucks up next year as well. Molk will probably be back for next season assuming all goes well, but he'll miss the Spring, off season work outs and (hopefully) bowl practices. He was going to be the anchor for that line for the next 2 years and now if he plays he won't be improved from this season. Huge blow for next year. I was counting on Molk and Schilling to really lead this line to greatness next year. FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!!!!
I'm not an expert on the subject, but I would think that he can at least be back for spring practice.
the idea of 6-6 at this point. The QB shuffle isn't working, the loss of Molk is huge, and the D can't really be counted on to hold anyone under 30 points. That's a bad combination right there.
I was at the game Saturday and just didn't see that beat down coming.
Next two games are huge. Huge. They've just got to beat Illinois and Purdue. One comfort is that we put up quite a few points on Purdue last season, I've no idea how many starters they are returning on D but I will go ahead and say they are beatable, OSU game notwithstanding.
Wisconsin and OSU? Uh, yeah, not so sure. If the Purdue T. Pryor shows up we've got a shot.
And of course, sad to see Molk get hurt so soon after coming back from the broken foot. I've got trust in Barwis to get him ready for next year.
Even Mike Valenti, he of the maniacal football rants and Michigan hatred, praised Molk for trying to go back in and play on the bad knee. When Valenti praises a Michigan player, I mean, what can I say? wow.
Beating Illinois and Purdue might happen, but those games are certainly not gimmies. Illinois is desperate for a win and they've got a team coming to town that they trucked last season. And you have to be a bit concerned about the Purdue game. They seem to step up and play well in big games. Purdue had a 2 point loss on the road at Oregon, they lost a close one to ND and they beat Ohio State. You can bet your ass they will be licking their chops at a chance to beat a struggling Michigan team. With the way Michigan is struggling in the Big Ten I just don't see any game left on the schedule as a certain win.
I think this is a must win game. Illinois is averaging 11.3 points a game (not including their game against Illinois State). If they can't beat Illinois, a team that just can't seem to get right this season, then I'm not sure UM will win another game this year.
This is probably the worst injury news our program has gotten since Henne's shoulder went rogue two years ago. It's the kind of thing that can really derail progress, which is awful for a program trying to hard to rebuild. Hope the reshuffled line can get back to where they were against Iowa.
Somebody's got to step up but this injury is huge. ACL always puts an end to a player's season. Look at Franzen
This is horrible for Molk and horrible for Michigan. And it must be a very severe acl tear. Interestingly you brought up Franzen, I would say Franzen's acl tear is much less severe, because Franzen is expected to be back in 4 months. Which is great news for us Wings fans might I add. But in Molk's case they're saying he won't be back until next summer. Molk will miss spring practice which is more than 4 months away. So that must mean this is much more severely torn than say Franzen's acl.
But Franzen being injury prone doesn't help his situation. In the case of Molk this is massive. This injury hurts our offensive line but that mean's Moosman's going to have to really rise to the challenge.
This one really made my heart sink. Something about the way it unraveled on TV. The announcers said there was a man down, but they were just focusing on Tate the whole time and didn't show who the injured guy was. I didn't even know if it was a PSU or a U-M guy. And then BAM, they show #50 on all fours. I wonder how many collective fuck!'s were uttered at that exact moment. It's gotta be awful for him to only get four plays in after the broken foot.