Mike Farrell: Michigan and Hokies tied in lead for Da'Shawn Hand
Mike Farrell just tweeted this about Hand's recruitment (yes, we are recruiting players not named Jabrill Peppers, just in case anyone forgot).
I think #Michigan and #hokies are tied in lead for Da'Shawn Hand with #gamecocks behind them at this stage.
— Mike Farrell (@rivalsmike) May 25, 2013
This is a definite shift from before, as for a while he seemed pretty set on VT leading us for his recruitment. And with Mike Farrell's annoying habit of being very accurate with his predictions, this bodes very well for us, giving us a great chance to get the #1 and #2 players in the nation (at least according to Rivals).
But Hand is 2 on 24/7 composite rankings and Jabrill is only 3.... WHAT IS HOKE DOING!?! I WANT LEONARD FOURNETTE!!
I think Leonard Fournette is going to LSU.
How did this Mgojoke arise? I've seen it everywhere, but I can't for the life of me remember it's genesis
recruited in person or not. Seems they got the idea he didn't because Meyer or Saban or someone was listed as the recruiter of record for more guys than Hoke was. I wish I could copy/paste the OP but it looks like I deleted it instead of unpublishing it.
In 247's crystal ball Michigan is down 79% (VT) to 21% (Michigan). HOWEVA, in since May 23rd, there have been 5 predictions for Hand's commitment (all coming from non-local sources, aka not just Michigan guys like Steve Lorenz), and all 5 have been for us.
Very true, and it's definitely a tool that should be looked at with skepticism. But, that kind of shift indicates a change in thinking about Hand's recruitment.
Uhhh help me out here if what you're saying is over my head but are you not essentially saying that if you flip two coins and one is heads, there is a smaller probability that the other will be heads, as they should generally work out to one heads and one tails? Because obviously that is ridiculous.
Yeah, that's exactly what I thought he said, and that's simply wrong. It's really no different than the coin flip analogy I used, the fact that it's 70/30 and not 50/50 means nothing. The percentage of correct predictions is not set in stone and guaranteed to be the same at the end of every year, it is just the sum of all predictions made in the past, and it is not guaranteed to hold in the slightest. There are no slots to be filled up, simply future predictions no different than those made in the past. One prediction has no impact on another. It can be a tough concept to wrap your head around, but that's why they hammer it home in every single math class k-12.
And Marshall to MSU, lest we forget. I think we can stop thinkingof the crystal balls as reliable predictors of the natural order and think of them as what crystal bars really are...shiny props to distract people for entertainment value.
True, but Marshall went out of his way to trick the crystal ball predictions per his own quotes.
also Mike Hart was a 3 star and Kovacs was a no star... recruiting services are just a waste of time am I right?
All that matters is analyst Da'Shawn Hand's prediction.
I had thought there was an article a few weeks ago which stated that Hand as well as Juju Smith (who I believe is rated the #1 safety) were going to be here for the second edition of UTL this September. I know Hand was impressed when he was here in March and he really liked Mattison, from the sound of it. That in itself is encouraging.
As it is right now, this is already one of the better classes by average Rivals star ratings since they starting producing said ratings. Hopefully, the momentum continues upward.
It almost seemed like USC did it every other year. That Snoop Dogg/Lion guy sure can recruit.
based on Rivals, it has not happened. USC had number 2 and 3 one year.
Larry Foote to recruit Mr Hand.
Say what you will about the Godfather of Recruiting, but IMO no analyst is as plugged into the Virginia scene as Mike.
This is big. A few months ago, Farrell had somewhere around 4/5 on Hand's top 5 list and no we're co-leaders.
I like the fact that you do not use /sarcasm tags in your posts. They read so much funnier that way.
We haven't seen recruiting like this in at least ten years. It's awesome.
From a 247 staff member about the recent Hand to Michigan predictions;
"nothing super-scoopy, and there still is likely a long way to go in this one but the words 'may lead' were uttered at headquarters here in reference to Michigan and Hand. So we'll see how it trends"
My take is that Hand has more of a background with the Hokies and an early emotional connection there, but he sees Michigan as having a little more to offer and feels increasingly drawn to them. So I actually think that the longer this one goes, the more things start to tilt in our favor. Of course, the potential involvement of another team or two may also result from waiting. But right now I feel like our chances are trending up.
2nded, if M lands Peppers, Hand sticks to his original timeline, and we have a strong year I think we will be in the drivers seat. If he changes his mind and wants to get the process over with then my bet is he ends up at Va. Tech.
Good news concerning Hand and if Peppers chooses the good guys tomorrow, this class is on it's way to becoming legen- wait for it- dary!
I think if Hand were to commit today, it would be VT...I think if he were to commit on Signing Day it would be VT.
But if we can get him to commit during the season, say he's at UTL and it's another AWESOME game and VT is getting run over by Alabama and struggling against other competition early in the year (which is very possible)...I think Michigan becomes the favorite.
I think Michigan has a better year than VT, so I think they become the favorite if this thing is prolonged.
I think Mattison closes ground on Bud Foster every day this thing is prolonged.
The only reason I say "if it goes to Signing Day" is because then the pressure to stay home grows again.
But if we can build momentum between the start of the season and the Under Armour/Army All-Star Game, I think we land Hand.
I just think we'll be playing better, I think our recruiting class will be recruiting harder, I think he will have had a chance to connect with more guys in the class...I see things trending up for us.
So as of right now, I want Peppers and McDowell...get the guys that we feel like we "should" (whatever that means) get and get them in the fold. Hand waiting a little bit doesn't bother me because I don't think we're leading right now, but by B1G season...Da'Shawn, come on board!
So if he commits sooner or later he goes to VT, but we get him if it's anything else? :)
...I just think we're building momentum...as long as he can hold out and see the product on the field and continue to build relationships with the commits and the staff, I think he ends up Blue.
I was also at the VT Spring Game and Logan Thomas looked just as bad as he played last year. They all looked bad.
Just a spring game, but after a poor season, the fans clearly wanted to see something that would feel like "hope." People are really frustrated.
Their home schedule is horrible this year (like ours last year and next year), so their won't be as many chances for "electric games" like we'll have. They don't even have their annual VT Lane Stadium Thursday night game this year (and fans are pissed about it).
I actually want them to do well, because Scot Loeffler is the OC there. But not until Hand has committed to Michigan.
Have you seen VT's schedule? Alabama will be their only loss in the regular season. The best team they play after that is Miami