Michigan vs MSU MBB Open Thread
T-minus 60 minutes to game time. I just got off a long day of work and am looking forward to a great game. Figured we could fire this thing up early here to get some conversation going for this huge game.
If Michigan wins today we will be the first team to beat 3 top ten teams in a row in a season since Iowa did in 1986-87 (per ESPN stats and info).
Go Blue! BEAT STAEE.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:01 PM ^
/perspective.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:02 PM ^
My perspective is based the entire season, not just tonight. Irvin is getting worse, not better. He shouldn't be in there.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:05 PM ^
January 25th, 2014 at 8:08 PM ^
Keep dealing with your miniscule sample sizes. The kid has shown no signs of "game" here.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:04 PM ^
He is a freshman getting some extended minutes. May be a bit too early to call him atrocious, though I guess that's why people have opinions.
January 25th, 2014 at 7:56 PM ^
January 25th, 2014 at 7:58 PM ^
January 25th, 2014 at 8:00 PM ^
Refs took him out of the game early with 2 fouls though. That's worth remembering.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:06 PM ^
January 25th, 2014 at 7:56 PM ^
ESPiN slurping MSU. Easy to be up 6 when they mug our people LOL
January 25th, 2014 at 7:56 PM ^
January 25th, 2014 at 7:56 PM ^
umchicago mentioned it above but we're going to have to find ways to punish them for being so "up front" defensively, backdoor action for example. It's awesome shots are falling but that rate won't hold up; we need to find ways to get easier baskets. Not to pile on, well yes to pile on, a foul every now and then could help also (though I don't think it's as bad as most think, they're just good/sound at defense).
January 25th, 2014 at 7:57 PM ^
THE DAMN DIFFERENCE IN THE DAMN GAME IS THE NUMBER OF FOULS CALLED YOU DIPSHIT!
January 25th, 2014 at 7:59 PM ^
January 25th, 2014 at 8:00 PM ^
Somehow McGary has 2 fouls in this game. Fergodsakes.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:03 PM ^
best post of the nite
January 25th, 2014 at 7:59 PM ^
January 25th, 2014 at 8:01 PM ^
This is true. And only partly b/c of how much Harris is being allowed to grab/slap/hand check Nik. Nik needs to learn how to play through that somehow. Duke did the same thing to him.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:02 PM ^
January 25th, 2014 at 8:04 PM ^
He is obviously talking about GR3.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:13 PM ^
January 25th, 2014 at 8:05 PM ^
You be quiet with your stupid facts and comparisons. We are pissed off here!
January 25th, 2014 at 8:10 PM ^
Except he presented facts about a player who was not referenced.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:02 PM ^
While I agree he could (and should) be doing much better, as I said earlier the refs took him out of the game with 2 fouls early on. Hopefully he picks it up in the second half.
January 25th, 2014 at 7:59 PM ^
January 25th, 2014 at 8:06 PM ^
Not to mention years of Sparties showing the ball, then moving both feet before starting a dribble. Check out Harris' first 3.
That said. Just play. Relax and win
January 25th, 2014 at 7:59 PM ^
January 25th, 2014 at 8:07 PM ^
Win or lose, he has to be on the floor for the second half.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:00 PM ^
Can we get Roy Williams to Skype in and give a halftime speech?
January 25th, 2014 at 8:00 PM ^
Does this slow down the Stauskas to the NBA talk? He seems to get controlled failry easily when an NBA talent is defending him. I think he's still an NBA player, but games like this make me think that he's not a first round talent right now. And I don't even know what to say about GRIII. That guy just disappears sometimes. He's going to get drafted on potential, but he's not nearly as aggressive as he needs to be.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:02 PM ^
There is value in someone who can shoot like Stauskas, but a game like this might show that he isn't a 1st rounder.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:04 PM ^
January 25th, 2014 at 8:09 PM ^
To not get shut down for 13 minutes?
He does have 8 points, but he scored 5 in the first couple of minutes. Once State adjusted, Nik was shut down.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:07 PM ^
January 25th, 2014 at 8:02 PM ^
January 25th, 2014 at 8:04 PM ^
except one team is without an all american though.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:04 PM ^
Hardly. They were still predicted to win. It's very hard to win any road game in the Big10 and Breslin is one of the toughest. Combine that with horrible officiating and there's nothing embarrassing about a loss here.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:05 PM ^
You'd think, but since we're playing 5-on-8, it negates the difference.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:06 PM ^
I missed the part where McGary suited up and Walton wasn't recovering from the flu. Oh yeah, and the game was played in Ann Arbor after MSU just played Iowa and Wiscy.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:02 PM ^
Michigan eFG% - 51.85%
Michigan OREB% - 25.00%
Michigan Free Throw Rate - 11.11%
Michigan Turnover % - 12.38%
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Michigan State eFG% - 56.00%
Michigan State OREB% - 35.71%
Michigan State Free Throw Rate - 44.00%
Michigan State Turnover %- 9.14%
January 25th, 2014 at 8:02 PM ^
January 25th, 2014 at 8:05 PM ^
I'd rather see one of our guys trip over him on the court so he gets a tech.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:03 PM ^
A couple skilled players (Harris and Appling) and a bunch of big, long, raw muggers. On offense they chuck up shots and plow in over the back for offensive boards. On defense they just hack and hip check.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:05 PM ^
Enough whining about B1G refs jn a B1G game.
The difference is Harris has been lock down on Stuaskas and we are fortunate to be only down 6.
GRIII needs to get in the game and drive to the hoop.
Also would like to see Stauskas move away from the ball using double screens and make Harris work.
Great first half for Sparty and M is staying in the game with the three ball.
Dick Vitale talking about Dantonio winning the Rose Bowl mad me puke in my mouth.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:06 PM ^
A bit of a contrarian, but I think we're hesitant to drive to the hoop because the refs refuse to call a foul on MSU and it's resulted in turnover after turnover.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:08 PM ^
Stauskas is trying to run away from Harris but Harris is literally grabbing onto him. It's amazing to see really LOL.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:08 PM ^
January 25th, 2014 at 8:12 PM ^
As others have noted, Stauskas has 8 points and 4 assists. Harris is a good defender, but he's definitely doesn't have him on lockdown.
I do agree about GRIII, but the early fouls didn't help, nor does the officiating clearly favoring one team over the other. Some of that is aggression, but also some of that is a team getting frustrated with non-calls and trying something else.
January 25th, 2014 at 8:07 PM ^