Michigan opens up as a 2.5pt favorite vs PSU
November 23rd, 2020 at 8:28 AM ^
Players for Michigan that are out for this game.
Hayes
Mayfield
Paye
Hutchinson
McGrone
Hawkins
Vastardis
If Michigan wants to win, then they will need to be ready for a shootout. Our defense is bad, but with injuries piling up they are atrocious.
November 23rd, 2020 at 8:39 AM ^
Can you link a source for the players other than Hayes/Mayfield (if memory serves me correctly, they are the only ones that have been publicly confirmed that are done for the season) that they confirmed will be out vs. Penn State? I know Harbaugh said McGrone needs an MRI in the Rutgers post game presser.
But for the others, I doubt Michigan discloses this info on a Monday during game week.
November 23rd, 2020 at 8:43 AM ^
Either you are getting your info from some foreign site, or you just haven't been paying attention. The only player that has been ruled out for the remainder of the season is Hutchinson.
November 23rd, 2020 at 8:46 AM ^
Thank you.
November 23rd, 2020 at 3:32 PM ^
Yeah, but...are any of these guys (like Mayfield) now opting out for remainder of a meaningless season?
November 23rd, 2020 at 8:45 AM ^
Not really sure we miss Hawkins. Reynolds played better.
November 23rd, 2020 at 9:24 AM ^
People keep saying this, but iirc he was in a position to break up a td (or 2), but rather than break on the ball he just kind of stood there and let the receiver catch it. I’m not going to ever rewatch that shit show so i could be wrong, and i know hawkins has been somewhere between disappointing and outright bad, but Reynolds isn’t the answer either
November 23rd, 2020 at 9:53 AM ^
You are correct, but it was somewhat of a busted play, and he left the man he was covering to make a play on the ball. Other than that he was great in coverage and run support. No one said he was the answer, just that he was better than Hawkins. Hawkins looks slow, and not really sure he knows what he is doing. Year 3 playing safety with NFL aspirations is not a good look.
November 23rd, 2020 at 11:13 AM ^
Good points, he was solid in run support - i thought i saw a couple issues in coverage but I can’t be sure and refuse to watch *that* again. I have serious doubts about his ability to cover especially against better athletes like he’ll see against psu, but then again I’d have those doubts with Hawkins too, so . . . at least we have hockey and will have basketball shortly.
November 23rd, 2020 at 10:50 AM ^
Injuries have hit both teams pretty hard.
PSU starters out for the Iowa game:
Frieirmuth
Cain
Johnson
Ford
Cook
Castro Fields
Kuntz
Katshir
They might be down to their 4 RB if Ford remains out for Michigan... PSU's offense is not very good right now esp without J.Brown...but neither is Michigan's defense.
November 23rd, 2020 at 11:38 AM ^
Not to mention Ambry Thomas and Nico Collins who opted out.
November 23rd, 2020 at 8:29 AM ^
The 2.5 is for the Frames Janklin coaching factor.
November 23rd, 2020 at 10:39 AM ^
How much is for the Harbaugh lack of coaching factor? Cause he always spots the other teams 7-14 points in the first quarter
November 23rd, 2020 at 8:40 AM ^
not sure why we are a favorite in any game anymore. We haven't covered the spread since the Minnesota game. Not sure why we'd expect Saturday to be any different.
November 23rd, 2020 at 8:53 AM ^
I'm guessing people are expecting that McNamara will start and run a competent offense.
November 23rd, 2020 at 10:00 AM ^
And our defense will offset that.
November 23rd, 2020 at 9:32 PM ^
If Milton was our quarterback I would take this all day
November 23rd, 2020 at 9:23 AM ^
Games involve two teams. I doubt the line has anything to do with confidence in Michigan.
November 23rd, 2020 at 8:52 AM ^
As a gambling expert what I make of the line is that if Michigan wins by 3 or more points then they will cover the spread.
On the other hand, if they only win by 2 or fewer points, then Michigan will not cover the spread.
Take this tip to the bank folks.
November 23rd, 2020 at 8:52 AM ^
I thought we were a hockey school...
November 23rd, 2020 at 9:03 AM ^
It sounds like a line for a hockey game.
November 23rd, 2020 at 8:59 AM ^
That line suggests to the philosopher in me that Vegas considers this game to likely be a very morose, darkly introspective moment for fans of both teams.
November 23rd, 2020 at 9:11 AM ^
I'm guessing your inner philosopher is Nietzsche. Not a bad choice.
November 23rd, 2020 at 9:38 AM ^
The philosopher in me, says.....Please God, help us win!
November 23rd, 2020 at 10:10 AM ^
Sounds kinky yet disturbing.
November 23rd, 2020 at 11:15 AM ^
I'm guessing Nietzsche wrote this with UM's defense in mind.
November 23rd, 2020 at 11:38 AM ^
“One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star.”
Nietzsche.
I hope our stars are dancing at the end of the game.
November 23rd, 2020 at 11:55 AM ^
"Oh blow it out your ass Howard"
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:30 PM ^
Logged in just to upvote this
November 23rd, 2020 at 10:55 AM ^
I'll take the other side of that dim view.
My take is this is the game that UM fans realized Cade is the next coming of Drew Brees after he puts up 54 points on State Pen.
Yes, it's 11 am on a Monday and I have been drinking!
November 23rd, 2020 at 9:46 AM ^
I think Penn State is the better team despite their record, but Vegas must just be thinking they’ve mailed it in for the season and don’t really care anymore. Thing is, you could say the same for Michigan.
This game feels like it’ll be a 2014 repeat all over again. Two bad teams seeing which one can “out-derp” the other, with a bit of 2013 mixed in where you get to towards the end and wonder to yourself “do either of these teams want to win?”
November 23rd, 2020 at 9:55 AM ^
The way we played after McNamara entered, I don't think we have to worry about having mailed it in. We may not be good but I think we still have some fight in us.
PSU, I'm not sure about.
November 23rd, 2020 at 11:00 AM ^
You could say the same about Michigan for sure, but "IF" Michigan wins, they are back to .500 so i think our players would have to be 'more up' than theirs, right?
God i hope we beat PSU and keep their winless streak going.
November 23rd, 2020 at 11:21 AM ^
Michigan wasn't mailing it in in the second half Saturday.
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:43 PM ^
I'll agree, as does the scoreboard after Rutger ran up a 17-0 lead. From that point, when McNamara entered, Michigan outscored Rutger 48-25. Ohh, the difference a functional offense can make for the way a defense looks...
Too bad we didn't have a functional offense against MSU and Indiana.
November 23rd, 2020 at 12:47 PM ^
Michigan came back from a 17-0 deficit with their backup QB and scored 35 points in basically a half of football. I know it's fashionable to assume Michigan is awful forever this year but they absolutely played like a team that still gave a shit.
PSU has been ravaged by injuries and inconsistencies from their stars. They'll be competitive but they are worse than Michigan even if I agree their record makes them look worse than they are.
November 23rd, 2020 at 9:54 AM ^
This game is going to be a battle of wills of who wants it less.
November 23rd, 2020 at 10:23 AM ^
Over-under 2.5 shanks by Nordin.
November 23rd, 2020 at 2:23 PM ^
You mean "Do your fucking job" Quinn Shanky Nordin.
November 23rd, 2020 at 2:32 PM ^
I wouldn’t be surprised if Moody is kicking the field goals, at least those 42 yards and shorter.
November 23rd, 2020 at 3:37 PM ^
Can Milton kick? Or the punter?
November 23rd, 2020 at 10:38 AM ^
I guess I don't understand Vegas' thoughts over the last week. They gave us I think -9.5 @Rutgers, but are only giving -2.5 at 0-5 PSU? I'd still be willing to bet on PSU, I just don't know why they apparently thought Rutgers sucked so much more than Penn State
November 23rd, 2020 at 10:38 AM ^
I've watched all of three PSU games and parts of the other 2. I guess I just really missed Big 10 football in September and decided to watch whatever I can while the games are still being played. That said, after 4 games, I thought PSU would beat us. But they really showed no life at all against Iowa. It was like us against Wisconsin. If that PSU team shows up, we win easily. Answers to a few questions will go a long way in deciding this game:
1. Which PSU team shows up? The team that had Indiana beat if the RB just takes a knee and played OSU tough, or the team that got throttled by Maryland, Nebraska and Iowa?
2. Does Michigan start getting back some of our injured players?
3. Can we get a fucking turnover or two? In four games, the only turnover we got was the one that ended the Rutgers game.
November 23rd, 2020 at 10:44 AM ^
-The (insert other team QB) will have a Heisman day throwing against us
-Michigan will give up 7-14 points in the first quarter against (insert any team here)
-Michigan will have to play from behind and overcome lots of penalties against (insert any team here)
-Michigan will set one or more records (insert any team here) of the kind we don't want
-The (insert any team here) will look like world beaters against us
-Michigan will take 5 minutes to run a 2 minute offense against (insert any team here)
November 23rd, 2020 at 11:45 AM ^
Cumong man.
November 23rd, 2020 at 3:40 PM ^
Thought this was about the DEEEtroit Lions at first.
November 23rd, 2020 at 10:25 PM ^
Username does NOT check out.
November 23rd, 2020 at 10:52 AM ^
I think we cover and look good doing so.
Michigan wins 35-17.
November 23rd, 2020 at 10:55 AM ^
Assuming Milton doesn’t start.
November 23rd, 2020 at 11:36 AM ^
Our defense holding ANY opponent to 17 points?
Crack is wack.