I don't know how this is possible considering that would give us 29 players in this class which I thought was not allowed by the B1G. 28 was the reported limit but I trust Sam. The ideal finish to this class would be Green, Treadwell, Dawson, McQuay, Hill, Hunt, and Jaynard Bostwick.
Michigan can take up to 7 more players in this class per Sam Webb
Was not expecting 7 more. I assume this is due to the combo of back-dating '13 early enrollees and attrition?
Sounds like our long snapper might not have a scholarship after all.
Pictures or it didn't happen.
I've heard this rumor a few times, but I thought we came up with the conclusion that wasn't true and he did indeed have a full ride.
We appear to have scholarships to spare, and so we would pull one from a guy that we've already promised one to?
Sure, that makes sense.
Depth isn't really as big of a concern anymore, so I HIGHLY doubt we take 7 more. I'd say 3-4 is a more realistic number.
Well there are a few guys leaving the team early, either for transfers or the chance at playing in the nfl. For example, Ricardo Miller is graduating early and will transfer to a Florida school so that opens a spot etc... Maybe Lewan is going to the NFL?
TAKE IT BACK!!! Lewan isn't going...PLEASE
Would be nice if he stayed... I agree!
It seems like it might work out for him.
It didnt work out for Lattimore...
Marcus lattimore was only a Sophmore. He had to come back
You have to be three years removed from high school to declare for the draft...
How about Barkley, he may have dropped out of top 10, would have been top 5 last year.
I doubt he would have been top 5 last year since he would have still been behind Luck and RG3, but he would have gone to Miami at 8 or 9 instead of Tannehill. However, I still think you're right, since I wouldn't be surprised if he drops out of the first round this year. He's not a top pick talent, and the teams at the end of the first round don't need him. Maybe somebody trades up to get him at the end of the first round, but only then.
Te'o probably wasn't a lock to be a top-10 draft choice last year; Lewan only has so many guys he could pass. And with the salary structure in place, his signing bonus won't be as dramatically different if he's drafted #3 or #9.
In general, the 85 scholarships is the big limiting factor, and you can only enroll 25 per class in the fall. To get more, you need to have early enrollees. With the Big Ten, they'll let you go over the "cap" as long as you can show where the scholarships are coming from. Believe Minn had a class of 32 a couple of years ago.
I'd be surprised if we took 6 linemen this year, or if we took Treadwell, or if we took another DT, or if we took 7 more players and none was a linebacker.
Why would you be surprised if we took Treadwell? I understand surprise to GET him now, but do you seriously feel if he would be turned away? I disagree. Think coaches feel he would be a perfect fit.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. If you are it's pretty funny. I'm more than certain the coaches would love to take the #1 receiver in the nation that they heavily recruited for so long. I would be surprised if he ended up as a part of our class at this point. He seems to be looking for something other than what Michigan offers him.
he was just taking issue with semantics. If Treadwell wanted in, we'd take him, but it's not looking great he'd come. The way the original person had it almost sounded like even if he wanted in, we wouldn't take him.
I probably shouldn't introduce him to my friend The Grammar and Punctuation Nazi, then. It would be an epic battle, but they could be so evenly matched they'd be locked in a stalemate for all eternity, like Goliad and Stormo.
Look - you're the one who used the confusing verbiage. You said you'd be surprised if we took Treadwell, which certainly implies to me that it would be the coaches making that decision, not Treadwell.
It makes it worse when you come back defensive when you were the one who made the initial mistake. You look like a jerk when you respond that way to a person who misunderstood you're difficult to understand point. Just say you worded it wrong, and move on.
Actually, I was implying we'd kidnap him. Sorry if it confuses everybody, or if you mistook it for being pissy. I thought it was lighthearted. I even complimented him and upvoted him. Didn't think everybody around here was so sensitive. My bad.
NBD. Just wanted a clearer understanding what you meant. Trust me, my job I get yelled at constantly by the frantic people.
Still love your avatar, turtle.
Anyone else hear about the rumors about Burrows being unhappy with the addition of Conley into the OSU class? Maybe he is the mystery visitor?
I thought Skipper was the mystery visitor. We can have Gardner and the Skipper, too!
Unhappy and "I'm going to decommit because I'm afraid of a little competition" are two different things.
Not necessarily on the interwebz.
Conley committed to them as a WR primarily IIRC.
Its been reported, multiple times, that Hoke is only taking 5 linemen in this class.
There have been reports that 6 may be in play now. Sam and TomVH have both mentioned it. I am guessing that depends on what Lewan does though.
Likely has nothing to do with Lewan. Either way, Lewan will be gone after next year. These kids will almost certainly redshirt - true freshmen OL only play in the most dire of situations.
I wonder if there is any truth to the rumor that Lewan will be replaced by some Voltron-esque uber-offensive lineman. If so, that would explain why the staff is so hellbent on signing at least 5.
He didn't think they would get 7 more, but said the flexibility is there if they happen to need it.
That's why I wrote "can take UP to 7 more."
Has to be some major attrition expected to jump up to almost 7 along to go with some guys coming in January. I like the adjustments the coaching staff made from last year in getting more aggressive towards the end, not putting all their eggs in the same basket, and also having fall back options.
22 commits now
6 potential EE (3 count as part of 2012) = Class effectively currently sits at 19
Miller gone = Class effectively at 18
Lewan possibly gone = class effectively at 17
Major attrition not required. Only barrier is the 85 total scholly limit.
said he has left the team too
O yeah, forgot about Hopkins.
You probably know about this better than me. I honestly don't remember last years numbers, but as an example: if we took the max 25 players last year and none were early enrollees, then we couldn't list any more 2013 kids in the 2012 class. I didn't pay attention to last years final numbers, but I'm sure we had some room left, and/or some EEs that year, so we should have room to backdate a handful this year, but how many depends on the previous years class.
What I'm wondering is: how does losing a redshirt player like Ringer affect the 2012 numbers? Thinking if we lost him during his redshirt year would that mean we took one less 2012 player? If so we might be able to backdate 4.
he's gone, given the projections of his likely draft position.
Not surprisingly, I don't like either of those options.
If three of those last names are in Green, Treadwell, and McQuay I will be very happy.
Sheeeeit... I'd be happy with 1 of the 3.
Ok, 1 = Happy, 2 = Ecstatic, and all 3 is the best holiday present EVER!