I was just watching sportscenter and Michael Wilbon called Notre Dame the Floyd Mayweather of college football because they want to go to a crappy division to win. Referring to ND going to the ACC (ortiz) and dodging the BIG (pacquiao). I thought this was funny and wanted to share.
michael wilbon calls out ND
EDIT: Since it was actually Wilbon this post doesn't make sense anymore.
For the same thing...
Today Andy Staples on DPS says the same...the BigTen w/UM & OSU would be able to bully ND so they'll go to a weaker conference where they can be the 'bully' and impose their NBC TV deal on the conference.
Noter dame sucks
Would get slaughtered in either conference. That is the sad reality.
They'll be the biggest football draw in the ACC which means they'll call the shots. It doesn't matter what their record is.
And he would be absolutely correct. Although, honestly, I think VT and FSU could still give ND a little bullying of their own.
Mayweather actually wins though...
Touche my good man!
Would love to see this fight. In no way am I a boxing expert, but from what I've heard (i.e. read from people who should know more than me) he wants no part of the PacMan, that would be the only boxing PPV I would pay for.
It's more like PacMan doesn't want any part of the steroid testing
Sorry Mr. America, he already agreed to the testing. Mayweather is running out of excuses for ducking Manny. He just doesn't want to end up in the ER like everyone else who fights PacMan.
*Disclaimer* Like I said, not a boxing a expert. But didn't Manny agree to the blood test, just not within X number of days of fight (if I remember right something about not wanting to give up blood that close to a fight). Whether it's 2 days, or 2 weeks before I fight, if he was doing something he shouldn't I think he would get caught.
Uhh, that was like 2 years ago. For the last year, Manny has said he'll let them test him whenever. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/chris_mannix/09/20/mayweather.pacquiao/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_wr_a3
Thank you for enlightening me. Hate to see the excuses, I would just love to see these 2 in the ring. I'm more of an MMA fan (personally know a few people who do it so I'm partial), but this would be one boxing match I would pay for.
It's more like Mayweather is looking for any possible excuse not to fight Pacquiao.... Pacquiao has no reason to accept those ridiculous terms in which Mayweather is insinuating that Pacquiao uses some prohibited substance. Bottom Line: Mayweather is scared. After all, he's the one holding up everything with his ridiculous precedents. If you come up with any other logical reason for why this fight is not scheduled already then please reply...
He's not scared. He despises Pacqiuao's promoter Bob Arum so much he is willing to skip the fight to keep him from profiting from the biggest payout in boxing history.
Seriously? Do you think Mayweather really cares how much money Bob Arum is going to make from this fight? Mayweather only cares about two things: (a) his chances of winning the fight against a faster, harder hitting opponent like Pacquiao and (b) the amount of money he's taking home at the end of the day. We certainly know (b) is not a problem... I really cant understand how other people cant see it, HE'S SCARED!
Yes he does care. The two used to be business partners and there has been a lot of friction between them for years. You said it yourself, Mayweather doesn't need the money. I'm a fan of both but a bigger fan of Pacquiao and agree with everything Blue Since Birth says below. Most people have come to hate Money May but behind the scenes he's still Pretty Boy Floyd from Grand Rapids who busts his ass everyday to be the best and isn't afraid to get in the ring with anyone.
I like Pacman and I can't stand Floyd... And he's a great fighter, no question.
Having said that...
I rarely lose a bet on boxing despite taking underdogs with most of my picks (wish I could say the same about NCAAF). My money's going on Floyd without hesitation.
Floyd by late tko or lopsided decision.
BTW- Floyd's going to be the much bigger man physically. I'm also not so sure about Pac being "faster".
I hope some of this was coherent.
ND would beat BC, UNC, NCST, WF, Virginia, Cuse (when they join), Pitt (we'll see this week) and lose to Va Tech, The U, FSU, Georgia Tech, and Clemson
Notre Dame couldn't beat Syracuse at home, when we had Greg Robinson, and they can't now.
this was stuart scott and not michael wilbon? because i know wilbon said the exact same thing on PTI today...
agreed. i was wondering the same thing. Wilbon definitely made the same point earlier this evening.
It was def Wilbon, and i agree with him 100%.
If Stuart Scott had made the point, I would have disagreed. Since it's Wilbon, I can agree.
My mistake I was in the kitchen when I heard it when I came back Scott was talking on sportscenter they must have showed the clip from pti
Just admit it. All black people look the same to you. It's alright. I have the same problem with the whites.
I have the same problem with chinamen.
I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line you DO NOT - also, Dude, Chinamen is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian American, please.
the black people comment was funny, this is just racist.
I'm always getting Trey Wingo and Doug Gotlieb confused. Who can tell?!
Stuart Scott has the lazy eye ....Wilbon has the jackass Kornheiser, how did the OP get that wrong?!
IDK why they won't man up and join the B10. They already have 3 rivalries with Big Ten schools. Academically and geographically it makes sense.
Anyway if they go to the ACC, good riddance. Have fun sucking in your new conference.
Over the past decade or so when every summer the inevitable, "Noter Dame" should join the BigTen conversation begins ...
1. The NBC deal and BCS loopholes special for ND
2. Academically not a research school
3. Regardless of the misguided arrogance of the fanbase, ND would be 4th powerful behind M, Ohio* & PSU in the B10
4. Already in the BE for basketball, wants to stay Indie for football
5. Being dominated by Michigan schools & Ohio is discouraging
But above all else, they don't want to join the BigTen because .....they'd lose everything that makes them 'special' and thinking they're special is what keeps ND fans alive.
I would hope all Big 10 teams stop scheduling them. Especially us so we can play somebody different in the OOC. Then maybe we can get out ND, OSU, Nebraska home one year as the big time games and MSU the next.
I lived with a guy named Stewart Scott in college. [Edit: this was at least semi-related when the post was originally about Stuart Scott.]
Relating to the OP and FWIW, Teddy Atlas said Floyd would whoop some Pacquaio ass...
I think Notre Dame will finish this year strong and that Kelly will get them on the right track. It will be good to see the UM/ND rivalry have national implications again if it already doesn't.
well thank you Lou Holtz
I hope this becomes true for the better of the rivalry, just like I can't wait for UM to turn it around against OSU for the better of the "GAME."
I was talking to an ND alumni coworker about this topic today. He was trying to give me some BS line that the ACC is more geographically diverse and would better serve their diverse and spread out fan base playing regularly up and down the east coast. He actually referred to ND as America's team (yeah just like the Cowboys) and that is why the ACC is better than the B1G since all the B1G schools are in the midwest and the school has a strong presense there already. He also tried to say that the ACC was a better fit academically too. I just laughed and told him to keep believing whatever he was trying to convince himself of because he wasn't doing a good job of that to me.
While I don't doubt that your coworker is a ND slappy, ND probably does fit in the ACC better from an institutional standpoint. Their problem is that the ACC is a (big) step below the Big Ten in football and they would always have people saying they went there to avoid M/OSU/PSU/Nebraska. Recently, I'd say that Iowa and Wisconsin could play and beat anyone in the ACC (Iowa did in 2009) and they're second tier schools here.
Academically always makes me laugh. One of the most overrated schools in the country, ND isn't on par with Duke or UNC ....much less Northwestern or UM.
Their research sucks, but that's not the only definition of academic prestige (though it certainly is the B1G's). Amherst probably spends less than five million a year on research and their academics aren't really in question as elite. Same with the service academies.
The ACC is happy with BC, and they have basically the same academic model as ND does.
Wake Forest as well.
Wake actually holds its own on the research front. They do ~$200m a year, which puts them in the lower third of the ACC, B1G and Pac, but they would be in the middle tier of the SEC and top tier of the BE and BXII, and that's with a very small school. I don't know where to find faculty numbers, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Wake exceed some big name schools on a "research per faculty member" basis.
The Research Triangle .......ex-WF, anyways.
isn't my standard, it's the BigTen's consideration for inclusion. Noter Dame is overrated academically based on my personal experience professionally and in graduate school. US News rankings and all that nonsense based on a private school that draws from parochial, private high schools schools that are hugely advantageous in terms of resources results in skewed 'averages'
The Dukies, Nerdcats and TarHeels and Wolverines I work with and among and have known make ND alum seem quite average, aside from the arrogance of being a 'Domer'
"the 10 guys i worked with who went to nd" weren't smart, so nd must be a bad school.
nobody has any idea how to evaluate the quality of an undergraduate education, and i think the rankings are fairly ridiculous, but the "i know some idiots who went to nd" line isn't particularly persuasive.
i know some idiots that went to harvard. and mit. and michigan, etc.
A lot of idiots. ...
As I posted before, I'm drawing on 16yrs of work experience, including graduate school with ND undergrads and a multi-market sampling. I'm not saying the one booger eater in my office who went to ND represents all ND alumni, I'm just going off personal professional experience that, in my experience, does not support the exaggerated claims of ND fans when exalting their academic prestige.
That said, ND grads are veritable Einsteins when compared to Cornhuskers.