MGoPredictions On Camp Battles

Submitted by Mr. Yost on

Who ya got?

Inspired by the % thread, I was interested to see what the community thought of the position battles.

Either state the name when given an "or" situation or list an order.

#2 QB - Morris or Cleary?

RB (put in order) - Toussaint, Green, Hayes, Johnson, Rawls, Smith

FB (put in order) - Kerridge, Houma, Shallman

#1 LG - Braden, Bryant or G. Glasgow?

#1 C - Miller or Glasgow? #1 SDE - Heitzman or Wormley?

#1 MLB - Morgan or Bolden?

#1 SLB - Gordon or Beyer?

#"2" CB - Taylor or Avery? (***starting opposite Countess***)

#1 P - Wile or Allen?

 

Michigan248

August 15th, 2013 at 6:33 PM ^

#2 QB -it will be Morris cleary RB Toussaint, Green, Rawls, Hayes, Johnson, FB Kerridge, Houma, I'm not sold sHallman will play Fb #1 LG - Braden #1 C - Miller #1 SDE - Wormley #1 MLB - Bolden #1 SLB - Gordon #"2" CB - Taylor is this a joke? #1 P - Wile

Blue in Yarmouth

August 16th, 2013 at 8:16 AM ^

Actually, it isn't really unfortunate because the fact that there is talk that Avery passed Taylor on the depth chart means he is playing better. Taylor showed last season that he could hold his own at corner and had a pretty solid season, so if Avery has indeed passed him on the depth chart (as the reports have been suggesting) than that can only be good news I guess.

The Victors

August 15th, 2013 at 6:36 PM ^

#2 QB:  Morris

RB (in order):  Toussaint, Green, Rawls, Smith, Hayes, Johnson, Shallman

FB (in order):  Kerridge, Houma, Shallman

LG:  Braden

C:  Glasgow (Miller to start by end of the year)

SDE:  Heitzman (Wormley to start by end of the year)

MLB:  Morgan (is this really a "battle"?)

SLB:  Gordon (though I could see this being pretty 50/50; Gordon with the superior coverage skills, but Beyer with better rushing/run support skills)

#2 CB:  Taylor

P:  Wile

 

DenardIsMyHomeboy

August 15th, 2013 at 6:45 PM ^

I just went for a run over the E. Stadium Bridge and stopped to catch a couple minutes of plays...

Devin threw a pick, reeled in with a high jump by Jarrod Wilson

When Devin went out, Morris went in (So I'll say he's gonna be #2 in the fall) and threw a completion for about 10 yards + 10 YAC. Didn't catch the name of the receiver. Ben Braden was playing at LT for the couple plays I saw.

Too far from the field / busy to see anything else really.

ChiBlueBoy

August 15th, 2013 at 6:48 PM ^

#2 QB - Morris

RB (put in order) - Green, Touissant, Smith, Rawls, Hayes, Johnson (by end of year, Smith is #2, but Touissant is 3rd down back throughout)

FB (put in order) - Kerridge, Houma, Shallman (with Houma making a push through the year)

#1 LG - Braden

#1 C - Glasgow (could go either way, and if Glasgow, does better than expected, but still meh)

#1 SDE - Wormley

#1 MLB - Morgan

#1 SLB - Gordon and Beyer split time nearly evenly. Gordon "starts" but irrelevant distinction.

#"2" CB - Taylor

#1 P - Wile

MilkSteak

August 15th, 2013 at 6:48 PM ^

#2 QB - Morris, Cleary

RB (put in order) - Toussaint, Green, Rawls, Hayes, Johnson, Smith(RS)

FB (put in order) - Kerridge, Houma, Shallman

#1 LG - No idea

#1 C - Miller, Glasgow

#1 SDE - Heitzman, Wormley

#1 MLB - Bolden, Morgan (we'll see plenty of rotation here)

#1 SLB - Gordon, Beyer

#"2" CB - Taylor

#1 P - Wile

BayWolves

August 15th, 2013 at 6:51 PM ^

It will be:

#2 QB Cleary (playbook knolwedge comes in to play)

RB Toussaint, Johnson, Green, Rawls, Smith, Hayes

FB Kerridge, Houma, Shallman (Shallman gets some pt, no redshirt)

1LG Braden

1C Miller

1MLB Morgan

1SLB Gordon

2CB Taylor

1P Wile

ALSO:

SDE Heitzman, Wormley, Godin

DT Black, Henry (in nickel package Strobel sees some time too)

Nickel Avery, Thomas

Bo Knows

August 15th, 2013 at 6:59 PM ^

Morris

Toussaint, Green, Rawls, Hayes, Johnson, Smith redshirts

Kerridge, Houma, Shallman... but I don't mthink Shallman is purely a FB

Braden without a doubt

Miller to start the year, but if he struggles they'll give Glasgow a shot..... and I think if they both struggle and Kugler is playign well in practice they give the job to him

Heitzman, and I actually think he'll be pretty solid there

Morgan

Beyer, but it'll be more of a platoon

Taylor

Wile 

Blue in Yarmouth

August 16th, 2013 at 8:22 AM ^

but can't really say I disagree with you. With Green and Smith in the same class it would be nice to get the a year apart and there is no way Green is going to RS. I would like to see them give a RS to Smith but given the data we have it doesn't seem likely. If he doesn't RS I think he will be just behind Green and Fitz on the depth chart as none of the others have proven they can do much at the college level.

 

Wolverine Devotee

August 15th, 2013 at 7:04 PM ^

#2 QB - Shane Morris but I hope he does not play a snap this season and Devin plays every snap. 

RB (put in order) - Toussaint, Green, Hayes, Rawls, Johnson......redshirt Smith

FB (put in order) - Kerridge, Shallman, Houma

#1 LG - Braden

#1 C - Miller

#1 SDE - Heitzman

#1 MLB - Morgan

#1 SLB - C.Gordon

#1 RCB - Taylor 

#1 P - Wile 

uofmdds96

August 15th, 2013 at 7:52 PM ^

I don't follow this thinking. So if we are up by 35 vs Akron you want Devin in and risk injury? Or put Cleary in and let him get experience that he will never use. Then (cross fingers) Devin is hurt later in season, doesn't start aOSU game, and Morris goes in untested, or Cleary gets the nod? Let him get experience, maybe challenge Devin for the job next year, gain more experience and start his junior and senior year.

Leonhall

August 15th, 2013 at 9:05 PM ^

Really getting Morris experience when he's thrown into a game up 35? I mean whoever it is, rather it be Cleary, they're just turning around and handing the ball off! Don't burn a redshirt on mop up time, dumb. Getting mop up time will not prepare Morris for your scenario of Gardner getting hurt.

uofmdds96

August 15th, 2013 at 9:41 PM ^

Are practice and an actual game the same thing. I don't mean give hime the last two minutes. Give him a quarter of real offense with the first team. Give hime half of the fourth of the ANY game we are comfortably up to him. Pass routes, reads, audibles, timing, etc. I am not thinking about a what if Devin is hurt before aOSU or State or PSU, I am thinking of experienced playing time for the future. Are we not happy that Devin has experience from last year. Do you think we won't recruit another quarterback after Morris? What about Speight? No need to get our panties in a bunch and insist or assume that Morris will be the messiah and will start all four years. The Team is bigger than Morris and his redshirt.

Leonhall

August 15th, 2013 at 10:43 PM ^

Seem like hoke's style. Had denard not gotten hurt last year, we would have Bellomy or Gardner with pretty much no experience besides practice. Shane needs a RS, he is not ready now. This staff is crossing their fingers that Gardner stays healthy, they know without him, they are in HUGE trouble. I mean hell, Gardner has only started 5 games!

Blue in Yarmouth

August 16th, 2013 at 8:29 AM ^

that Morris doens't RS. This isn't EA sports and he won't get RS'd and leave the potential for us to have a walk-on be the only thing behind Gardner. The staff learned last year what problems have one unproven backup can lead to.

Morris will get involved early and as often as possible so that if a repeat of the Nebraska game happens this year and our staring QB goes down in a tight game we will have someone who actually has some experience able to come into the game. I'm not saying for sure he will win the backup job, but he will get some game experience so that even if he doesn't need to be called upon this year because of injury, he will have some game experience going into next year and thus be a somewhat known commodity. 

Leonhall

August 16th, 2013 at 10:09 AM ^

You are right, I just don't like burning a RS simply because you are worried devin is going to get hurt. From what I've seen from Shane, the only thing he CURRENTLY has on Cleary is arm strength. I'm not gonna lose sleep on it, ideally it would be good if devin played the next 28 games or whatever injury free. From all indications from media, it sounds like Shane will get snaps. I just hope it is more than 10 if they are going to burn his RS.

Leonhall

August 15th, 2013 at 10:06 PM ^

Getting game experience in a blowout against subs from the other team is not going to prepare Shane. Face it, if Gardner gets hurt, we are in deep shit. If he gets a RS this year, he can get experience next season. I don't see Gardner leaving. I would keep Gardner in and hand the ball off to green in a blowout. The small amount of experience you guys want him to gain Ina blowout will not prepare much more if any than if RS's and gets a good understanding of the offense. You can't worry about injuries

Leonhall

August 15th, 2013 at 10:40 PM ^

Because that whole 10-15 minutes of MAYBE Mop-up time will make a HUGE difference...especially when he passes the ball maybe 10 times against the other teams 2nd team. He's not going to get enough game experience this season to help us save our season if Gardner goes down. Now if Gardner does get hurt, I would agree that Morris is probably the answer. I don't see the point of forcing Morris into action this year to prepare him for two years from now. He'll have 2 spring games before he will be expected to start.

Wolverine Devotee

August 15th, 2013 at 11:24 PM ^

That 4th quarter of mop up time for Bellomy against UMass last year didn't help him much in lincoln...

Now let's never talk about that game again. 

Wolverine Devotee

August 15th, 2013 at 11:27 PM ^

What I meant the post is that I pray Devins stays 100% this season and the rest of his career. 

The backup situation scares me and I rather redshirt Morris personally. IF Michigan is beating a team up really badly, then put in Cleary. 

Wish we would have picked up a QB in the 2012 class or a JUCO kid this offseason for more insurance. 

BlueBruke

August 15th, 2013 at 9:25 PM ^

 

#2 QB:  Morris

RB (in order):  Toussaint, Green, Smith, Rawls, Hayes, Johnson, Shallman

FB (in order):  Kerridge, Houma, Shallman

LG:  Braden

C:   Miller, Glasgow

SDE:  Wormley

MLB:  Morgan

SLB:  Gordon, Beyer 

#2 CB:  Taylor

 

Rather be on BA

August 15th, 2013 at 9:31 PM ^

#2 QB - Morris

RB (put in order) - Toussaint, Green, Johnson, Hayes, Rawls, Smith

FB (put in order) - Kerridge, Houma, Shallman

#1 LG - Braden

#1 C - Miller

#1 SDE -  Wormley

#1 MLB - Morgan

#1 SLB - Beyer

#"2" CB - Taylor

#1 P - Wile

reshp1

August 15th, 2013 at 10:25 PM ^

Morris - I think Hoke maybe let it slip a bit in his presser today

Toussaint, Smith, Green, Hayes, Rawls, Johnson - Fitz is looking good and has the experience. People are sleeping on Deveon Smith, with Green hobbled a bit, I think the #2 is for the taking. Green probably takes over as the season goes on though.

Kerridge

Braden - Dude is massive and can move, Glasgow IMO is going to get the start at C at the last minute much like Mealer did last year

Glasgow - My feeling is if Miller was going to win the job he would have done it by now

Morgan - Very close and probably doesn't make much difference as they will both play (as well as Ross)

Gordon - Beyer's injury isn't going to help. I think it's Gordon

Taylor - Hard to believe Avery and Taylor would flip flop from last year. Both are mature players and it would be surprising to see on make a big push and/or one to take a big step back.

Wile

Perkis-Size Me

August 15th, 2013 at 11:04 PM ^

I'm going to skip over a couple:

Morris v. Cleary - Morris. Nothing against Cleary, but Shane just has a lot of talent, however raw he is right now. And as much as it sucks to think about burning his redshirt, we don't have a lot of viable options behind Gardner right now. Shane is our future, or at least that's what we've all been saying for the last few years since he committed, and he needs to get some snaps this year and get his feet wet, even if its just garbage time. I'm operating under the assumption that he'll win the backup job due to talent, so he needs to get as many reps as possible in the event that Gardner goes down, that he can at least be serviceable. If that does happen, though, hopefully the O-Line gels very quickly, and Fitz/Green become a lethal combo that we can just hand the rock off to 35-40 times a game.

RBs-Fitz will be our go-to man to start the season, at least. Green will be a complement to him, but will be chomping at the bit to get on the field. I predict he will have some huge breakout game at some point this year where he'll rush for 150+, and will really push Fitz for time. Hayes will slide into the V.Smith, 3rd down, change of pace back, Rawls will serve as the 3rd RB and get a few snaps a game, especially if we're up by 2-3 TDs. I know the coaches have raved about Drake, but I feel like he'll get lost in the mix. Smith might get a redshirt year simply because the cupboard is so full right now at RB, but he will become part of a big 1-2 punch with Green in the coming years, maybe even as soon as next year. But what do I know? He might be our starter by the end of the year. I've heard great things from him as well.

FB-Kerridge has the most experience right now. He's the man for the time being.

Miller vs. Glasgow: not sure, whoever's better, but I'd give the edge to Miller. Just as long as its not Kugler. Not yet. I know the man's about as technically sound as they come and mature beyond his years, but a freshman center just doesn't sound that appealing. And a true freshman at that. Hope he stays in the weightroom for the next 12 months.

Morgan v. Bolden: Morgan due to experience, and Morgan is no slouch, anyway. But Bolden will see the field plenty this Fall, regardless. He's too good to not play.

Taylor v. Avery-I see Avery as more of the nickel corner, where he'll get pushed for time by Dymonte. Taylor performed very well last year after Countess went down, and I think we'll see him manning the opposite side of the field for the time being.

 

JD_UofM_90

August 15th, 2013 at 11:16 PM ^

If the center position is so much up in the air, why wouldn't they give a guy with some experience a chance like Chris Bryant? He seams to be doing ok this fall and he is a big body compared to Miller. They switched centers last year at the last minute during camp, so it is not such as radical idea.

GoBlueInNYC

August 16th, 2013 at 7:16 AM ^

A couple of thoughts:

1. I don't think Bryant has any experience playing center, as far as I know. And I don't think Bryant has any in-game experience. He's a year older, but he had that broken leg that knocked him out for a year.

2. Generally, I don't think you want your centers to be "big body" types. There has been just as much (if not more) concern about Glasgow being too big than there is about Miller being too small. 

Ron Utah

August 15th, 2013 at 11:43 PM ^

#2 QB - Morris.  And I think he should play in games.  The RS is overrated.

RB (You got it, but Smith RS's) - Toussaint, Green, Hayes, Johnson, Rawls, Smith

FB (put in order) - Kerridge, Shallman, Houma

#1 LG - Braden

#1 C - Miller

#1 SDE - Heitzman

#1 MLB - Morgan

#1 SLB - Gordon, but this is more situational than anyting

#"2" CB - Taylor 

#1 P - Wile

BlueMan80

August 16th, 2013 at 12:28 AM ^

I had a discussion with Sam Webb about that at the alumni event here in Chicago. He's the immediate future And the red shirt will get burned on Aug. 31. Clearly doesn't have the arm to throw deep outs. I think Glasgow will win the center job. I think Curt Becker knows talent and Glasgow appears to have the size and smarts to make a good center...until Kugler is ready. Looking forward Taco time and Dymonte rocking the nickel.

uminks

August 16th, 2013 at 1:48 AM ^

#2 QB - Morris over Cleary? RB - Toussaint, Green, Hayes, Rawls Johnson, Smith FB - Kerridge, Houma, Shallman #1 LG - Bryant, Braden, G. Glasgow? #1 C - Glasgow (He wants it more), Miller? #1 SDE - Heitzman (experience) or Wormley (rotated in for sure) #1 MLB - Morgan over Bolden? #1 SLB - Gordon (he's worked hard will play 60 percent), Beyer (will be in against run formations) CB - Taylor over Avery? (***starting opposite Countess***) #1 P - Wile over Allen?

mills44

August 16th, 2013 at 2:14 AM ^

#2 QB Morris...will play snaps this year, no redshirt RBs: Toussaint, Green, Hayes, Rawls, Johnson FB: Kerridge LG: Braden C: Miller (Kugler ends up the starter by years end) SDE: Heitzman SLB: Gordon and Beyer 50/50 CBs: Countess and Taylor (Avery Nickel, Thomas plays some) P: Wile

UMICH1606

August 16th, 2013 at 5:36 AM ^

I have been lucky enough to have been to a couple of practices. I see most of you are going with the recruiting hype at with a lot of these positions. I think some of you will be surprised. Drake Johnson is a lot higher on the board than most of you have him. Heitzman will start on 8/31. Wouldn't stun me if Glasgow and Bryant end up starting over Braden and Miller. Morris will probably play on 8/31. The most recent practice I was at, Avery was actually getting a lot of run with the 1's at FS. I will be a guest at tne scrimmage tommorow. I will edit any changes.

GoBlueInNYC

August 16th, 2013 at 7:20 AM ^

#2 QB - Morris

RB (put in order) - Toussaint, Green, Hayes, Rawls, Johnson, Smith*

FB (put in order) - Kerridge, Houma, Shallman**

#1 LG - Bryant

#1 C - Miller 

#1 SDE - Heitzman (Wormley***)

#1 MLB - Morgan

#1 SLB - Beyer (Gordon***)

#"2" CB - Taylor

#1 P - Wile

*Redshirts

**Burns redshirt on ST duty, does not see action at primary position

***Heavy  rotation