META: Seth, would you ever UFR Bama vs. UGA?
Had this site every done a UFR for another team/another game?
The "how to stop Milroe" thread got me thinking...so I decided to turn the SEC Championship Game on and watch for myself.
But if there was a UFR, that would be really helpful in understanding what the Wolverines are up against in the Rose Bowl.
Thoughts? Thoughts.
December 13th, 2023 at 7:02 PM ^
UFR for Georgia, as in Georgia being us? I like it. Just don't know if Seth has that kind of time.
December 13th, 2023 at 7:09 PM ^
I just figured, he'd normally be doing our game. And we aren't playing...so maybe that time could be spent with an abbreviated version of UGA/Bama and/or Texas/Bama.
As a sidenote, I'm rewatching and UGA just walked down the field on Bama on their opening drive with plays that Michigan runs (except the one PA half bootleg they ran on some Iowa shit).
They're TD play we've run a million times. It was Corum's long run versus Washington or the Edwards runs versus OSU last year.
RB sprints to the hole, takes an exaggerated jump that freezes everyone and sets up the final blocks, then bursts through the hole and full speed.
December 13th, 2023 at 7:03 PM ^
I rarely login, or post, but I was thinking about this too...as much as I believe in the scouting this blog does of our own team via UFRs, I have always WONDERED if our coaches/other coaches (were talking low level staffers here) ever used this sites UFRs as a go by. The more I thought about it, I figured our coaches doing it wouldn't be very helpful, because they KNOW the plays and what the WANT the players doing, so the grades probably wouldn't match quite as well - think differences of opinion on Trente vs Barnhart possibly. However, for other coaches, this is basically an advanced, discussed, play by play and summarized explanation of PFF, so I would think it might actually be a data point. See what certain players are good at, struggle with, etc.
Anyways, very long way of saying, I would love to see the Bama vs Georgia UFR, because I think it could really help inform us (and maybe even our coaches) of one or two key pieces of information about specific Alabama players.
December 13th, 2023 at 7:24 PM ^
I would sincerely hope at this point that our staff is doing this themselves. But we have seen evidence that MGoBlog is read at Schembechler Hall so…
December 13th, 2023 at 7:58 PM ^
I suspect, that as advanced as we find the UFRs, our coaches would consider them kinda simplistic. Maybe? Seth even admitted that a lot of what Minter had his defense doing against OSU was beyond anything Seth could explain.
December 13th, 2023 at 9:12 PM ^
I'm sure they read them (in fact I'm almost positive that someone within the program does)...it's data, clips, and it's another viewpoint whether you agree with it or not.
We better get some damn playaction versus Alabama!
December 13th, 2023 at 10:50 PM ^
Uh, no, I don’t think so.
Staff has full 22. Staff does this and only this for a living. Staff includes seasoned, highly pedigreed football minds from across the CFB landscape.
I love what UFR has done for my football understanding. But UFR is definitely not a data point for the football coaching staff under Harbaugh.
December 14th, 2023 at 10:04 AM ^
Why do people assume this? This strikes me as incredibly naive. Do folks here make equally childlike assumptions about the impeccable decision-making of corporations and governments?
Granted, the football program has resources MGoBlog doesn’t. On the other hand, UFR isn't some garbage fan take, no other program has such a blog, it's free, and one of the stupidest things any organization can do is look a gift horse in the mouth. In reality, people like free. I've worked for huge multinational corporations that used freeware wherever possible. If you think the world is like "they're big & successful so they must be packed with elite experts using only expensive & highly exclusive resources" and you saw how many decisions were really based on frickin' Wikipedia, you'd never sleep again.
Also: This staff hired Connor Stalions. They're not all geniuses over there, nor do they need to be.
Now, sure, I’d be concerned if they replaced their scouting with UFR, but who thinks they’re doing that? But I’d be terrified if the program was so absurdly bone-headed as to reject a free resource. That’d be like, OK what other self-destructive idiocy is going on in there.
What they won’t do is ever publicly admit going to MGoBlog, because that’s just OpSec 101.
December 13th, 2023 at 7:04 PM ^
I suppose the same thought process could be used for Bama/Texas as well.
December 13th, 2023 at 7:12 PM ^
Yes, but only for sign collecting reasons. Because as is well known, opponent signs are worth 17-49 points per game
December 13th, 2023 at 7:30 PM ^
I thought it was worth 30-24 points.
(...did I do that right?)
December 13th, 2023 at 7:59 PM ^
Nice. You're going to be saying the 'M' sound before too much longer if you keep hanging out here...
December 13th, 2023 at 8:09 PM ^
One of us! One of us!
December 13th, 2023 at 9:38 PM ^
Chuck, you really need to leave the dark side and be one with the force over here.
December 13th, 2023 at 10:13 PM ^
Y'know, you could move from Colubus to Columbus.
December 13th, 2023 at 7:13 PM ^
Maybe you should do it, OP?
December 13th, 2023 at 7:33 PM ^
Crowdsource it. Parcel out those plays, do a community UFR.
December 13th, 2023 at 9:16 PM ^
I honestly thought about it, but I don't have all the cool "lingo."
It's also tough for me to see the entire play, that's why I love the UFR so much because it points out things I never saw the first or second time.
Usually when I'm watching a game, I'm trying to read the opponent and how we're attacking on either offense or defense. It's tough to watch 1 person when 22 are on the field. I commend Seth and Brian for all the time they put in to piece through everything and share in a way that we can process.
December 13th, 2023 at 7:51 PM ^
Isn't that what FFFF is for?
December 13th, 2023 at 8:11 PM ^
I was going to say, I believe I've heard Alex talking about 'charting' opponents. Not sure he gives them the full UFR / even uses the same methodology though.
December 13th, 2023 at 9:18 PM ^
In a way, but UFR is looking a every play versus a specific opponent, individual performances, etc.
FFFF is specific to Michigan.
I'm trying to understand who Alabama is before I begin to think about how Michigan should attack them.
December 13th, 2023 at 11:05 PM ^
Yes. Alex does this kind of work.
December 13th, 2023 at 8:28 PM ^
I would give you one million spacebucks. And a can of Perri-Air.
December 13th, 2023 at 8:44 PM ^
Don't sell those short. My oldest daughter(19) still pays her younger siblings(12) in "air bunnies".
Some currencies really retain their buying power.
December 13th, 2023 at 8:51 PM ^
But what's the rate of Schrute Bucks to Stanley Nickles?
December 13th, 2023 at 8:43 PM ^
Thoughts? Thoughts.
Thots!
December 13th, 2023 at 8:46 PM ^
That would be a hell of a lot of work for Seth just getting familiar with personnel alone. Would love to see it but that sounds like a lot.
December 13th, 2023 at 9:18 PM ^
Ahhhh!
UFR is a LOT of work. When I was doing both it would take me from Sunday night through midday Thursday doing virtually nothing else. This is the closest I get to a vacation. I got my water tank replaced today, had surgery yesterday to remove the thing that's been growing on my forehead, finally got the P&L done for HTTV so I can get paid for that, etc.
But I've got the game downloaded for a Neck Sharpies and a Seth & Matt Show this month.
December 13th, 2023 at 9:20 PM ^
We appreciate you!!
Enjoy the holidays and I'm wishing you a speedy recovery on your surgery.
December 14th, 2023 at 7:59 AM ^
remove the thing that's been growing on my forehead
!?
/ did you UFR it
December 14th, 2023 at 1:24 PM ^
That definitely sounds like something for Neck Sharpies....
Forehead Sharpies? Ouch.
I'm glad you got through that -- thanks for all you do, Seth!!
December 14th, 2023 at 8:14 AM ^
But now that you've got all of that out of the way...???
Lol Thanks for the hard work!
December 14th, 2023 at 8:34 AM ^
we love our unicorn at mgoblog
thank you for your massive contributions to this site
December 14th, 2023 at 2:34 PM ^
...yeah...but the forehead thing? Is it like a second copy of you? Maybe it could do the UFR...
December 14th, 2023 at 6:52 PM ^
Seth, I hope you understand. Your breakdowns are truly legendary. While we cannot reasonably ask any more of you, your product is of impeccable quality, so naturally we all want more. I always liked UFR but you have taken it to another level. Respect. Take your vacation, brother.
December 14th, 2023 at 8:57 AM ^
Any good every play video of this game out there? Would like to check it out
December 14th, 2023 at 9:26 AM ^
Where's Connor when you need him?
December 14th, 2023 at 10:17 AM ^
Isn't that what Fee Fi Foe Film is for?
December 14th, 2023 at 10:43 AM ^
I'd be very interested in that, obviously time permitting.
The only time I can remember UFRs being done for other teams were either Shea or O'Korn's games for old teams? I think?
December 14th, 2023 at 2:40 PM ^
Tennessee and Texas A&M both have strong aggressive defensive lines.
They were both successful containing Milroe.
Curious how similar they are to our approach.