META - MGoBlog rights a wrong, teams up with Hope for Pahokee Charity!
EDIT: See Brian's comments at end of OP. As is the usual around here, the finest blog in the blogiverse, great good will come of what, just yesterday, seemed an unfortunate situation. Great job, MGoBlog.
ORIGINAL POST:
A week ago, Six Zero unveiled the 2012 MGoShirts. Included amongst them was this one:
http://mgoblogstore.com/products/view/4147/49
Well, as many of you know, Hope for Pahokee, a charity started by Martavious Odoms (amongst others) to help impoverished Pahokee, Florida, has been selling #Eatin t-shirts for some time now, with 100 percent of the proceeds being directed to fighting hunger in Pahokee. http://hopeforpahokee.com/#65e/goodsie
A great deal of posters came forward in the comments section of the unveiling post to show their disdain for what is basically stealing. (http://mgoblog.com/diaries/official-unveiling-mgoshirts-fall-2012-edition#comment-1684703) Unless MGoBlog has some sort of agreement with Hope for Pahokee to give 100 percent of the proceeds of the MGoBlog "Eatin'" shirt to the charity, selling this "rip-off" is absolutely shameful and all involved should be embarassed regarding their decision making. Unfortunately, no representatives of MGoBlog have come forward to publicly address this issue, to remove the shirt from the store, to say there is a partnership with HfP, or in any way aleviate the concerns of the many posters regarding this product in the last 6 days since it was listed for sale. As of 4:23 PST, the shirt is still for sale with no indication that proceeds benefit Hope for Pahokee.
Come on, MGoBlog - you're better than this.
[ED: Hi. It's Brian. We're donating all proceeds from the shirt to Hope For Pahokee. I personally had missed the original Odoms shirt, and I'm sure Six did as well. You may resume panicking about the defensive line.]
August 27th, 2012 at 7:29 PM ^
August 27th, 2012 at 7:31 PM ^
Removing this post and not addressing a very valid concern of many users would be a sleezy move.
August 27th, 2012 at 8:20 PM ^
August 27th, 2012 at 11:44 PM ^
At first I thought your post must have been made under the influence of a psychotropic substance. Then I realized it was in reference to the picture in the OP.
August 27th, 2012 at 7:31 PM ^
Have you ever heard of email? It's ridiculous to bring this to the attention of the mass blog public without first trying to contact Brian, Six Zero, Odoms, or anyone else involved.
August 27th, 2012 at 7:32 PM ^
but how do you know they didn't?
August 27th, 2012 at 7:33 PM ^
It was brought to the attention of the mass public when the shirt was advertised for sale on the website. Multiple users commented on this with a week passing and no response - either in the previous thread or by email (Brian has our emails if he wanted to respond to my comment privately).
Frankly this should be brought to everyone's attention so they don't buy the shirt.
August 28th, 2012 at 9:06 AM ^
I've previously spoken out against Denard's on-field eating stunt as a way of celebrating touchdowns. I hope we have seen the end of it.
The MGoShirt was seemingly celebrating that stunt. I don't like either one, but I will at least give the MGoStore that much credit. They were responding to what Denard did on the field. Not commandeering a charitable symbol.
And by his own account, Denard's "eating" was related to the team's feeling that they had been starved from winning, and that it was "time to eat." It was not, by Denard's own account, a signal of his support for a charity.
I've got nothing against Pahokee, or the Pahokee charity, or any other charity. But I do like accuracy, and I like careful attribution. The basic allegation in the OP is such a stretch, that I can't help but make this observation.
I hope the Pahokee charity is a success and that it finds a way to do the good works that are intended. I have also had enough of Michigan football players doing the "eating" thing on the field.
OP fail.
August 28th, 2012 at 10:53 AM ^
Your inability to see the forest through the trees rears its uninformed head once again. This has nothing to do whether you liked or disliked the eating gesture. All you need to know is this:
1) A Michigan man has been selling "#Eating" t-shirts to raise funds for his charity to help Pahokee for several months.
2) A shirt with the same premise is offered for sale on MGoBlog months after the charity shirts were offered for sale.
3) One Michigan man does not undercut another Michigan man, especially when it comes to charitable work.
As illustrated by Brian's gesture to donate the proceeds to Hope for Pahokee, he gets it. You don't - which sadly is no surprise.
August 28th, 2012 at 11:26 AM ^
Certainly, by Denard's own words, he wasn't promoting any charity when he did the "eating" thing after scoring a touchdown.
Did the #EATING charity exist then? In November, 2011? I don't know; I don't think so. At least I don't recall it. As far as I can tell, it began in the spring of 2012. Is there any reference, anywhere, to "#EATING" before then?
Brian's gesture to donate proceeds of his Eating t-shirt to the Pahokee charity is (a) nice; (b) thoughtful, and (c) wise, from the standpoint of public relations and political correctness.
I never doubted that the MGo "Eating" shirts came after the "#EATING" charity formation. They both came after Denard's on-field "eating." Brian's shirt, as I understood it, was without reference to the charity, but rather was a direct reference to Denard's actions. Which originated, as I stated, without any thought to Pahokee. After which Denard was asked about it, and said not one thing about Pahokee.
Now while the chronology is pretty obvious to most, just because I am that kind of a guy, and you are that kind of a guy, here's the Denard quote, from November, 2011, for you to "eat":
Commentary
Hard-running Denard delivers victory
Junior quarterback earns accolades for pilling up 5 total TDs and 170 rushing yards
Updated: November 26, 2011, 7:21 PM ETBy Chantel Jennings | WolverineNation
http://espn.go.com/colleges/michigan/football/story/_/id/7283997/denard…
August 28th, 2012 at 11:54 AM ^
Nobody was claiming anything illegal was done. Nobody was saying there was any issue other than stepping on the toes of another Michigan man. People are just saying there is a right thing to do here, and that is to not compete with the charity of a Michigan alumnus when so many other options exist to make money for this site. It doesn't matter what the reference was to, it matters what the shirts say. And the shirts say the same thing.
That's it - don't make it so complicated. Thankfully the proprietor of this site has a moral and ethical understanding that you don't possess.
August 28th, 2012 at 12:22 PM ^
The person who went off with harsh allegations bordering on illegality was, uh, you:
A great deal of posters came forward in the comments section of the unveiling post to show their disdain for what is basically stealing. (http://mgoblog.com/diaries/official-unveiling-mgoshirts-fall-2012-edition#comment-1684703) Unless MGoBlog has some sort of agreement with Hope for Pahokee to give 100 percent of the proceeds of the MGoBlog "Eatin'" shirt to the charity, selling this "rip-off" is absolutely shameful and all involved should be embarassed regarding their decision making. Unfortunately, no representatives of MGoBlog have come forward to publicly address this issue, to remove the shirt from the store, to say there is a partnership with HfP, or in any way aleviate the concerns of the many posters regarding this product in the last 6 days since it was listed for sale. As of 4:23 PST, the shirt is still for sale with no indication that proceeds benefit Hope for Pahokee.
So... eat me.
August 28th, 2012 at 8:27 PM ^
August 28th, 2012 at 11:41 PM ^
EDIT: Happy Hour - I don't need him to report me for the 157th time.
August 27th, 2012 at 8:18 PM ^
I've asked Six Zero about this in multiple threads and he has ignored each of my questions. I don't buy that he didn't go back and read the comments in the MGoShirt unveiling less than 24 hours after it was posted.
August 28th, 2012 at 11:38 PM ^
That wolverine documentary thread didn't have a chance! Nice search.
August 27th, 2012 at 7:42 PM ^
August 27th, 2012 at 7:44 PM ^
Ok, maybe that won't happen. Boycott MGoStore.
August 27th, 2012 at 7:47 PM ^
August 27th, 2012 at 7:49 PM ^
August 27th, 2012 at 7:53 PM ^
I was about to support you on this but then your unnecessarily vitriolic final paragraph made me simply not like you, so now I will abstain from this argument. Telling people their behavior is sleezy and they should be embarrassed without knowing their motivations is not the best way to get what you want, especially since they provide you with a free service. So even though I agree with you in principle, I doubt this was intentionally stolen since the creators of the blog love Odoms and his work just as much as you. As others have said, if you want something done, probably best to keep your bashing discrete.
August 27th, 2012 at 8:04 PM ^
Well said. It might be a great idea to connect the shirt to the charity, but this isn't a democracy. If you're so upset about it, boycott the blog, go start your own blog, make your own shirt.
Again, I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but fwiw, I don't think your attitude is helping your cause.
August 27th, 2012 at 8:09 PM ^
This blog has a section for users to create posts about Michigan football/the site. How is that not a perfect place to raise this? And anyone saying that these things are more effective if handled in private is missing how public pressure actually works.
August 27th, 2012 at 8:10 PM ^
Graham Spanier? Joe Pa? Is that you?
Telling people just to go away quietly when they discover an inequity is downright Nittany Lionish of you.
August 27th, 2012 at 8:11 PM ^
This is also a terrible argument, and is dangerously close to argumentum ad hitlerum.
August 27th, 2012 at 8:18 PM ^
Really? You're playing the "this is just like covering up for a serial pedophile" card? Way to win people to your cause.
August 27th, 2012 at 8:21 PM ^
By a count of 22-2 as of 5:20 PST, people understand this is an issue, regardless of my bad attempt at a little PSU-based humor. Sorry you're one of the two....
August 27th, 2012 at 8:25 PM ^
I'm with you on the t-shirt issue. Not with you on the Penn State humor/comparison.
August 27th, 2012 at 8:30 PM ^
In hindsight it was a bad joke - problem is I work with comedians for a living and nothing is off limits. My filter has been damaged by the constant exposure. It should be pointed out that even I don't think the two situations are comparable in scale - the only thing they have in common is someone wanting an issue to go away quietly.
August 27th, 2012 at 8:44 PM ^
someone wants it to go away quietly.
You've had your 15 seconds of fame. Wait for some response before you try for national attention.
August 27th, 2012 at 8:49 PM ^
One shred of evidence. Okay, how about the poster that I was responding to that illicited my comment in the first place. He basically said find a new blog, don't complain here. I'm not saying staff of MGoBlog want it to go away quietly, but that poster didn't just imply it, he said it.
August 27th, 2012 at 8:56 PM ^
elicit not illicit
/end nitpicking
August 27th, 2012 at 9:18 PM ^
I'm with you on the t-shirt issue. Not with you on the Penn State humor/comparison.
I think I'm beginning to understand the problem.
So, you're not sayin', you're just sayin'. Yeah
August 27th, 2012 at 9:26 PM ^
August 27th, 2012 at 9:37 PM ^
I never said go away quietly. I said that this blog is not required to meet the demands of individual users or "aleviate the concerns of the many posters". They may want to if they think that's the best way to run a blog and increase their readership, and if they don't, they may drive people away. That's the risk they run. However, I think it's arrogant to come on the board and start telling the people who have made all this possible what they should and should not do.
I have no problem with you being as loud as you want, but your way of going about it has hurt your cause in my eyes...a cause I otherwise wasn't very familiar with until this post.
August 27th, 2012 at 8:48 PM ^
You should ask them to give you a couple jokes. Good ones.
August 27th, 2012 at 9:22 PM ^
Sometimes I wish 5 wasnt the max.
August 27th, 2012 at 8:30 PM ^
A) Six zero is ripping off the idea from HfP, and is everything the OP said
B) Six Zero is negligent of the greater Michigan commmunity outside of MGoBLog and it is an honest coincidence
C) Six Zero thinks by having a bowl instead of a hashtag it is differentiated enough that it is his own original work AND that its ok to compete with a charity.
August 28th, 2012 at 7:31 AM ^
but then Butterfield won't get all the attention.
August 27th, 2012 at 7:51 PM ^
It's hilarious that Six Zero has gotten on people's shit for using his images as their avatar, then does something like this.
August 27th, 2012 at 8:20 PM ^
Word. An example:
That avatar is completely and exclusively my own creation, idea, and execution, and recently I have been kicking around the idea of returning to it.
I'd really appreciate it if you used something else. Thanks.
August 27th, 2012 at 9:13 PM ^
what the fuck? on one hand he can scold someone for making a picture he made an avatar, on the other he can steal a t-shirt idea and it's okay?
yuck
August 27th, 2012 at 7:58 PM ^
Those kate upton shirts were awesome right!??
/s
August 27th, 2012 at 8:00 PM ^
...I don't believe that the MGoStore is obliged to do so; free market economics and the like. We as consumers, however, can choose which shirt to purchase, knowing full-well where the proceeds will be distributed.
August 27th, 2012 at 8:00 PM ^
August 27th, 2012 at 9:12 PM ^
I just didn't buy ten.
booyah!
August 27th, 2012 at 8:00 PM ^
As supportive of all things Michigan as this blog is you would think that it would have been addressed. It appears they are stepping on the toes of a worth-while charity run by a alumn.
My hope is that a arrangement has been made and we have just not been made aware of it.
August 27th, 2012 at 8:01 PM ^
Brian killed my kitten. Allegedly.
August 27th, 2012 at 8:24 PM ^
Was there 5 in the litter?