Martell Cleared to Play This Year
OK, it looks the NCAA is just going to rubber stamp the hardship waivers going forward.
Tathan!
Transfers involving Harbaugh will be given a mandatory 6 month waiting period to come up with a reason to deny.
Interesting considering how difficult they made it for Patterson weigh multiple requests and appeals and taking the word of the brothel at ole miss.
Ole Miss CONTESTED Patterson's transfer. THAT is why it took longer. Don't let a little information get in the way if your victim narrative.
Don't be a dbag, sally.
March 19th, 2019 at 10:22 PM ^
So what? Why in the hell would the objection of one of the least credible institutions be any basis for decision making by the NCAA? That is an absurd distinction.
March 20th, 2019 at 11:17 AM ^
The NCAA could have easily told Old Mississippi to "GTFO. Aside from lying to recruits, your violations caused the players to transfer in the first place. But, thanks for your input."
They didn't and the NCAA played along - because, SEC - and Shea had to wait until summer to find out if he was eligible - when he did nothing wrong.
So... you poured cereal into your bowl today and then realized that you were out of milk?
March 20th, 2019 at 12:31 PM ^
Running out of milk in this situation is one of the reasons they invented beer.
You're right Harbs. +100.
This is THE main reason that both Fields and Martell were cleared. Neither GA or OSU contested the transfer, unlike Ol Miss. It’s much more difficult to deny a transfer when the impacted university is OK with it. While GA had their arm twisted I think that we will see less universities disputing transfers. If you were an incoming QB, would you commit to a college that will prevent you from transferring if you feel like you got screwed or one that doesn’t contest transfers? Players righfully (imo) feel like they should be able to transfer just as coaches do, they are going to prefer a school that values or at least appears to value that process.
March 19th, 2019 at 10:40 PM ^
This is basically a workaround to the regular transfer rules. I think the reason for the shaking of heads is that the Fields and Martell "hardships" were hardly that. They were basically manufactured scenarios designed to meet a bare minimum "hardship" standard. There was no true hardship.
Yes, neither of the institutions contested the waiver requests, but that doesn't change the fact that the Patterson and Fields/Martell situations were vastly different.
As to whether no-redshirt transfers should be allowed is, of course, a completely separate topic.
March 19th, 2019 at 11:01 PM ^
All the Ole Miss players were forced to wait, while we see these quick decisions made for blurrier lines. But whatever, Tatham and Fields should be eligible along with anyone else post-end season transferring.
So at this point it should just be free agency.
It is for everybody else, why not for players?
I'd be fine with that. Just don't masquerade as some serious policy/process that looks at situations critically when in actuality, that's not how this is operating anymore.
That's just for show now because people get awfully mad if players aren't held to a much higher standard than everybody else.
It’s going to open a can of worms...as many adults that are in authoritative positions within the collegiate athletics have shown the inability to follow simple rules. This will pave the way for tampering IMO. Don’t players commit to the school and not the coach? If not they should, not good for the game.
Is there some reason just holding the adults to a higher standard is off the table?
Yes. Reality.
In almost every other scenario reality seems to dictate the opposite. That we hold the older, more powerful, and higher compensated individuals to a higher standard.
Players only committed to the school and not the coach because the previous ability to transfer was soo difficult. If you’re the top recruit coming to UM to play for Harbaugh and he leaves next year and they bring Hoke back, do you think they would still want to play for UM. Extreme example sure, but the point is kids buy and are sold relationships with the coach.
Yep, this changes CF. Whole new ballgame going forward.
It really won't change college football. The same teams are going to be competitive, and the low level conferences are still going to be unable to compete. The only thing it will change is QB transfers, and for the most part, QBs that have an easy path to playing time in a year will stay put.
This is only a "new ballgame" if you haven't been paying attention to college sports for a couple of decades.
Wasn’t this announced a while ago?
Are you thinking of Justin Fields?
March 19th, 2019 at 10:47 PM ^
You’re right. I got it confused with the Fields transfer.
I get that a big part of the difference between Martell and Patterson is that Patterson's former school fought the process and Martell's didn't...
...but did he ever give a reason for why he was deserving of a waver? In theory there still has to be some kind of special circumstances, doesn't there?
....because they were out of bacon macaroni and cheese in the dining hall.
I think at this point the NCAA has lost their leverage by granting immediate eligibility to Fields.
It's going to be hard for the NCAA to step back from that.
I don't know how they can slap a one-year suspension on anyone ever again. Gonna be a shitload of transfers in the very near future, probably right after spring ball.
NCAA is just a bunch of sluts at this point. Follow the money.
"...at this point."
Hahahahahahaaha...oh man...hahahahahhahah...whew...hahhahhahah....
NCAA is useless. It's always about money
He is warmer in warm weather. That’s the reason.
Well OSU was going to give his money to someone else. Does that count? Can you imagine going all year without gettin paid? Think of the kids
Don't know how you could even question the NCAA on this decision. It's pretty easy to see that being exposed to people pooping in coolers everywhere you look is a hardship...
Martell crossed.
Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory lasts forever.
Just get rid of the transfer rule at this point. There is no effing hardship with either him or Fields. They didn't want to sit and wait behind someone else. That's literally all there is to this.
I don't care that they transferred to go play somewhere else. It's their life and they're trying to make a professional living out of the game. Can't do that by sitting on the bench. If coaches don't have to sit out a year for breaking contract and going somewhere else, I don't think players should have to either. But don't sit there and give me some BS story about whatever "hardship" either of them think they may have faced. They wanted to start, and they weren't going to get to do it at their last school.
He's ass, my dude.
I mean, you have to clear anyone named "Tathan" to play immediately because there's a compelling story behind the name and it is the school's duty to find out, right?
Tathan with a nickname of Tate. Sweet.
I think, along the lines of what you're saying, maybe the NCAA decided that they young man has suffered irreparable damage by having to go through life with the name "Tahan." No need to kick him while he's down.
This is coming with basketball too. Itll be a way for the Duke's and UK's of the world to overcome the NBA poaching high school phenoms that would have at least played one year in college
Meanwhile Charles Mathews had to sit for a year b/c reasons.
My favorite was the year we were pursuing some European player and he was deemed ineligible to play college basketball because he played on a professional team (cant even remember who now) and then that offseason the rule changed but it was only for the upcoming year and forward. Michigan has always played by the rules and always gets screwed for it.
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