He can go national, if hired by MSU. Duhh.
I'VE HAD JUST ABOUT ENOUGH OF YOU SONNY
He can go national, if hired by MSU. Duhh.
I doubt his offer to Michigan was a committable offer ;) Urban is sending a message to Hoke in regards to recruiting so hard in Ohio. He's returning the favor.
Urban is still the flavor of the month. It simply won't last. Even after multiple NC's at UF, Urban's recruiting fell off.
Flavor of the Month? Seriously? Florida's Sugar Bowl team was represented by that "fall off" this year.
The only thing that fell off was a latop from Cam Newton's window. Florida finished with the #2 ranked class the year he resigned and was never lower than #10 throughout his tenure.
Let's wait until he signs a LOI with Ohio before we label him a Buckeye. For now, let's just call him an Ohio commit. Could be that before it's all over, he's a Wolverine.
Or goes to Alabama.
Maybe it is just the old man in me talking, but UM and OSU have always been able to pick up some players from each other's backyards from time to time. It comes in waves, and while OSU has a couple of local pick-ups, Hoke will do the same in Ohio. Both schools will continue to recruit well both locally as well as across the country. Where the renewed recruiting prowess of both schools will hurt will be at the lesser-tier B1G schools like Illinois, MSU, and Iowa, who won't have as many opportunities to poach talent from OSU, UM, and ND when all three schools are bringing in the best talent. They will have to get more creative with their recruiting, and so far I haven't seen it.
Still, wish the kid well. If he winds up at OSU, then so be it. But NSD 2014 is a year away and things change.
Meh. McDowell > Marshall.
McDowell is also a different position than Marshall. So...
Conley went to a school he didn't have an offer from when he first committed. Lawrence had his choice and made it. So there's that difference.
This response I read with Ricky Gervais' voice for some reason and it fit quite well.
360 days left in this recruiting cycle this is only as big of a deal as you choose to make it. Honestly I would rather have him steal the occasional kid from Michigan than put the walls around Ohio like tressel did. Home will be fine we have great recruiters and there is tons of talent out their. Meyer is gonna recruit and do it well no reason to get fired up this early.
To all of the people freaking out... you do realize Michigan had the #2 class in the naton after having a 5 loss season? Urban is a good recruiter but the Michigan staff is just as good or better.
MELTDOWN: We have missed (tentatively) on Harris, Webb & Lawrence and UM cannot give ground to Urbie.
MEH: Long way until NSD so these MI kids still possibly in Blue at NSD and we are in the mix with a lot of top guys to fill our class of 16+.
We all agree that Hoke can & must recruit top tier talent ... every year. If these guys are not Blue, then Hoke has to land other 4-5* talent to fill the roster and beat OSU on the field.
You've just ruined my Sunday.
Haven't been following '14 recruiting really at all (I had actually never heard of Lawrence Marshall until this thread). Question though: are we the prohibitive favorite for any top 250-ish '14 guys?
The only two recruits who we seem to be way ahead on as a matter of record are Brian Mone, the Utah DT (who would seem to be a 250 type) and Doles, who probably isn't a 250 type guy (yet?) because of size. Maybe you add Corey Holmes to that list, because he grew up a Michigan fan, but then again, so did Marshall.
Of course, nobody knows who's really ahead for a lot of these kids. I don't think we were ahead for Bosh or Kugler (especially Kugler) before they dropped and dropped early.
And people have mentioned Jabril Peppers and Parker Westphalia a lot but I'm not sure if we lead for any of them. The thing that concerns me is that most of our offers so far are for guys outside of The Midwest. This will be a very tough recruiting year IMO. Hoke and the staff better be rested and ready.
Yep, forgot about Bars, but that's kind of unspoken. I mean, I don't recall ever hearing a quote where he said Michigan leads, and while his brother is here, he has two other brothers in other programs. It's just that he's visited here so often.
Westphal made the comment that Michigan is the standard he measures other schools by, and people seem to think we have a good chance with him. Peppers, they say, is more of a lonshot (kind of like Hand- in his top group, mentioned, but behind other schools, so the legends say)
IThe names I put up top (except for Holmes) were there because they've said Michigan leads. If you want people Michigan has a good chance with, Westphal and Bars are good additions, but you could add Scott and Cole as a package,.
I suppose, as other people are now pointing out, we could add Adoree Jackson tothe list. CB from CA with good offers, who's been making noise about being the next Charles Woodson, so maybe that's something.
Parrker Westphal is listed on the RIvals 250 for 2014, and after the summer camp circuit I bet he stays in the 250, or rises.
He will rise rapidly after camps. Special player. Woodson comparison is always daunting, but maybe Jalen Ramsey in this year's class. Just more athletic than anybody he locks down on. That would be a big get.
Over next 2015's recruiting class is now set at 4 days after signing day 2014.
Context is everything.......
Loss but I don't think his recruiting is over, and if it is, we'll just get another guy who is just as good, this is Michigan fergodsakes.....plus, haven't we taken WDE in the last couple of classes? We will get someone just as good, probably from Ohio.
Look - I didn't read this whole thread (it got very pathetic for a while) but to all of you Chicken Littles out there (and there are many) - chill the fuck out. Urban will get his guys and we'll get ours. Both teams will have a limited numbder of spots to fill, so a couple guys going one way or another is not big deal at this point. We liked Marshall, but we took good WDEs in the last 2 classes and we'll take a good one this year too.
I'm not saying we didn't want him anyway, because clearly the coaches did, but Lawrence Marshall is not a can't miss recruit who is going to change the fate of us and OSU because of this decision. He's a four star guy. We'll probably get a guy just as good, and OSU would have gotten a guy just as good if he came to us.
In summary, this is not worth getting worked up over.
I really hope the coachig staff can turn it up nationally. I heard around that Hoke and staff didn't work as hard for Marshall as urban.. maybe it means they feel good about some other guys more. I mean WDE isn't a huge need for us and on top of that Marshall isn't a blue chip type of talent, good but not blue ship. Thinking with are depth at the position the staff feels it is better to focus on blue chips like Carter and Hand.
Let him be a suckeye
Players ain't come to Ohio State to play school. -osu player
The state of MI will have some good 4 star talent in the coming years and hoke got to protect his state since dantonio is laying in the weeds waiting for recruits to come to him. Also this is not a big loss.
f**k and lion. Doesn't mean much, just came to my head as the first expression of anger for this.
Meyer and OSU have alot of momentum with the 12-0 season, much like we did going 11-2. As long as we get 2 or all three of the in state Harris, McDowell and Doles I think we'll be in good shape. There is a long way to go until any of these kids sign their LOI. All we have to do is win on the field (9 or 10+ wins) and the recruiting will take care of itself.