January 9th, 2020 at 9:07 AM ^
Good luck, young man! Thank you for your time here.
January 9th, 2020 at 9:09 AM ^
No surprise, do we know if he got his degree?
January 9th, 2020 at 9:28 AM ^
It was reported as a grad transfer with 2 years of eligibility, so it would seem that he did.
January 9th, 2020 at 2:11 PM ^
Good for him! Go Blue Jaylen!
January 9th, 2020 at 9:32 AM ^
Yes his dad said so on Twitter.
January 9th, 2020 at 10:39 AM ^
Sad to see him go. Thrilled that he got his degree. Good luck young man!
January 9th, 2020 at 11:10 AM ^
Hope he gets the Thomas Rawls bump from transferring, but for a guy that probably won't play in the pros, this is a pretty good situation. A Michigan degree with great coaching and then a masters degree somewhere else with probably two years of playing time?
January 9th, 2020 at 9:09 AM ^
Anyone else having trouble keeping count of the scholarship numbers since the transfer portal? I have no clue where they are at anymore.
Also saw on twitter that the 2017 5th ranked recruiting class they had 30 commits, 14 have transferred and two have gone pro. (DPJ and Ruiz).
January 9th, 2020 at 9:19 AM ^
Its confusing. Are players technically still on the team while in the portal? Can they rejoin the team if they change their mind?
January 9th, 2020 at 9:22 AM ^
I think they are still part of the program, and can choose to return. I’m not so sure they are allowed to do any practices or any of that stuff.
January 9th, 2020 at 9:23 AM ^
I think Art Sitkowski did that at Rutgers.
January 9th, 2020 at 9:35 AM ^
It depends on whether they return to this reality or a different one when they are ejected from the portal. They cannot return to this Michigan, that would cause some Event Horizon shit, but can join a Michigan football team in a different time line. (There is some risk of like a Butterfly Effect type deal in that situation, but it is negligible).
January 9th, 2020 at 9:38 AM ^
Do we call the guys who enter the portal "Sliders"?
January 9th, 2020 at 4:14 PM ^
Forget that. Is there cake at the end?
January 9th, 2020 at 3:17 PM ^
There is an alternate universe in which Urban Meyer stayed at Bowling Green for three years, and then stayed at Utah for four years, and was available when LC retired after the 2007 season.
We've already celebrated our third national championship at Michigan under Meyer, and are eagerly awaiting a possible fourth after our championship game with LSU.
January 9th, 2020 at 9:42 AM ^
I don't know if they can still practice after entering the portal. However, I did read somewhere that once you enter the portal, your current team is not obligated to take you back and honor your scholarship nor place on the team. It's up to the coach, and so dependent on facts and circumstances. On the one hand, if a guy wants out, the coach has every right to say "hey, you quit on us, I'm not going out of my way to help you come back here." But that must be balanced against the impact on future players - do you really want to be known as the coach who won't help a kid do what's best for himself, and reverse a bad decision to enter the portal? Saban is probably the only one who could get away with that. I imagine it would go poorly for everyone else in the country, especially Harbaugh. We saw how the Hudson transfer was unfairly treated by the media.
January 9th, 2020 at 1:15 PM ^
It’s my understanding that when you enter the transfer portal you are no longer on the team and you have to ask if you can come back if things to go as planned. Not sure about the school issue but I would think if you are on scholarship and you decide to transfer your funding would stop.
January 9th, 2020 at 1:15 PM ^
It’s my understanding that when you enter the transfer portal you are no longer on the team and you have to ask if you can come back if things to go as planned. Not sure about the school issue but I would think if you are on scholarship and you decide to transfer your funding would stop.
January 9th, 2020 at 2:53 PM ^
The student-athlete is empowered by the change to the bylaw. Once student-athletes ask that a compliance administrator place their name in the portal, the school has two business days to submit the information.
It is up to the individual school to develop policies regarding portal requests.
The downside for student-athletes is that their current school can reduce or stop giving them athletics aid at the end of the term in which the request was made to enter the Transfer Portal.
If student-athletes withdraw from the portal, the original school can return them to the roster and restore athletics aid if it chooses.
http://www.ncaa.org/static/champion/what-the-ncaa-transfer-portal-is/
January 9th, 2020 at 9:46 AM ^
A class of 30 is always going to have a ton of attrition, its a make up class due to depth issues to take that many guys and most d1 players don't want to be depth for 4 years.
January 9th, 2020 at 10:12 AM ^
This is a really good point.
While it looks like we are suffering well above average attrition, context is key. Because of the late-Hoke slide, Harbaugh inherited a less-than-ideal roster. Yes, there was definitely talent, but there was a lack of depth at many position. As a result, his first few classes had a number of "depth guys." With a few unfortunate exceptions, most of our recent transfers have been guys who really have not been big contributors.
January 9th, 2020 at 12:25 PM ^
Asiasi, Solomon, is that it in regards to guys that would've gotten significant playing time?
January 9th, 2020 at 1:18 PM ^
Probably James Hudson as well.
January 9th, 2020 at 9:16 AM ^
Best of luck JKP! I think he would do great in a scheme like Iowa runs, hopefully he finds a good fit.
January 9th, 2020 at 9:20 AM ^
Wasnt he 2017? That class has more transfers than contributions. YIKES!!!!
January 9th, 2020 at 9:20 AM ^
2017 class. Woof.
January 9th, 2020 at 5:23 PM ^
And that 2017 class landed Chris Partridge the 247 #1 recruiting coach award !!!
January 9th, 2020 at 9:20 AM ^
Best of luck to him. Always seemed like a good dude. Hopefully he got his M degree.
January 9th, 2020 at 9:21 AM ^
Why doesn't the NCAA just go forward with an opening day for free agency like the NFL? Maybe the Monday after the championship game. The transfer portal is a joke. Yes, hard to punish a kid for making a decision, likely before they are 18, then regretting it. Either compete or transfer, but go back to the old rule of having to sit out a season before regaining eligibility.
January 9th, 2020 at 9:32 AM ^
You'd think considering how many transfers Michigan has benefitted from UM fans wouldn't still be complaining about this system, but here we are.
January 9th, 2020 at 9:34 AM ^
What? The transfer portal doesn't magically let you transfer without sitting out a year. Also, he won't have to sit out because he graduated. Not because he's in the portal.
January 9th, 2020 at 10:25 AM ^
Wait, are you really mad at a "student-athlete" for completing his degree and then transfering out of a program where his athletic capabilities are inadequate? From what we see, this person has completed their schooling and as per NCAA guidelines free to either continue in this school or move on to somewhere else.
I am actually happy for every athlete who completes their degrees (in whatever that may be) and grad transferring somewhere else to showcase their athletic abilities. You are of course, free to see it differently.
January 9th, 2020 at 11:15 AM ^
The points of the portal are 1) no longer require players to get a release from their school in order to transfer and 2) to let other schools contact the players in it.
Gone are the days when Joe Paterno can refuse to let a player transfer or when Mike Leach can say a player can't transfer back to a home state school. Or other coaches can make a long list of schools that their player is blocked from.
January 9th, 2020 at 12:31 PM ^
I think JH is right: give them all one shot to transfer. But, in order to keep things from getting too ugly, maybe they should prohibit players from transferring in-conference.
January 9th, 2020 at 9:23 AM ^
When Car was coaching he always talked about how over signing in the SEC was a competitive advantage for them because it was like playing poker vs someone that gets extra cards every time you deal. While we all hoped the guys who left would have worked out at UM the reality is that the program is better when the players who are buried on the depth chart move on and we get room for another guy who might pan out.
January 9th, 2020 at 9:36 AM ^
well stated - most transfers are because of this
January 9th, 2020 at 9:36 AM ^
After Harbaugh's first class we've signed 28, 30, 20, and 26. Doesn't seem like it's given us an advantage.
January 9th, 2020 at 9:41 AM ^
It only helps if you use to to build balanced classes (e.g., classes with DTs, CBs, and OTs in them).
January 9th, 2020 at 10:19 AM ^
That is the biggest issue that I have. I have no idea if what Wiltfong was saying is accurate, but I would not describe Michigan's recruiting as bad, more "haphazard." There does not seem to be any rhyme or reason to who we sign, kind of like the coaches think if you just get enough good 40 times and weight room monsters that you can throw them all together in kind of a "talent stew" that produces great results. Overall, I don't have a problem with the level of recruit that Harbaugh brings in, but I do have a problem with Ben Mason starting at defensive tackle because Michigan more or less forgot to recruit anybody for that.
January 9th, 2020 at 2:42 PM ^
Or, say, Michigan having only 2 OL recruits in the 2018 class. It looks like both Mayfield and Hayes will be hits, and that's great, but we'd have been in rough shape if one or both of them had been a bust. Or all the safeties in the 2020 class. They all look to be good recruits, and yes, there are also opportunities at Viper and LB but that's putting a lot of eggs in one positional basket. Particularly when one of our CB recruits in the class may have his highest upside at safety, too.
January 9th, 2020 at 9:25 AM ^
Quick side note - Lorenz also posted yesterday that Darion Green-Warren will not be early enrolling at Michigan. The thought was that we would.
January 9th, 2020 at 10:07 AM ^
Lets hope its third times a charm with the hyphened names.... Malone-Hatcher had to retire and Kelly-Powell now leaving.... Kidding aside, there may have been another hyphened name am not thinking of at the moment who also left.
January 9th, 2020 at 10:14 AM ^
Peoples-Jones
January 9th, 2020 at 10:24 AM ^
Tuley-Tillman
January 9th, 2020 at 10:40 AM ^
Bushell-Beatty, Mbem-Bosse, St-Juste (hey it’s gotta hyphen).
January 9th, 2020 at 10:42 AM ^
Irving-Bey (don’t know if he matriculated or what —to lazy to lookup).
January 9th, 2020 at 11:01 AM ^
Irving-Bey too
January 9th, 2020 at 9:26 AM ^
Good luck. Hope he finds a place where he can see the field.
January 9th, 2020 at 9:37 AM ^
Oh good, something for the worriers to worry about. What will the defensive backfield do now!
January 9th, 2020 at 9:38 AM ^
I had completely forgotten about him since he barely played. I really thought he was going to be a great player here when he committed.