Izzo "I have the utmost faith and respect" (for Simon)
MSU's Izzo has 'utmost faith, respect' for Simon. Story from @mattcharboneau https://t.co/ABFHjMsfB9 pic.twitter.com/5NRCW7VsIE
— Detroit News Sports (@detnews_sports) January 20, 2018
January 20th, 2018 at 1:36 AM ^
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“I have been told it is virtually impossible to stop a determined sexual predator and pedophile, that they will go to incomprehensible lengths to keep what they do in the shadows.
I found that a reprehensible statement to make. It's not just an excuse for her and the rest of her administration's failure. She wants people to believe that it applies to Nasser, despite no evidence having been offered to support that. He operated in the open because he knew that MSU and USA Gymnastics would always take his word over his accusers'.That they kept no records or ever forwarded complaints. That they didn't treat complaints of his abuse as a serious matter and that after enough incidents they were also complicit and it was in their best interests to keep it quiet.
The Izzo and Dantanio statements struck a nerve with me too. I'm not blaming them so much as their bosses. It was eerily similar to when Brandon was in trouble and he got our coaches to speak out in support of him.
January 20th, 2018 at 9:58 AM ^
to you as MSU did, they should have done much more. That they allowed Nasser to continue to abuse these girls is a serious failure on their part.
You can ignore a problem for many years. Have the children that report misconduct escorted back to the perpetrator to hear his side of the story rather than make records of the complaints. Or just brush them off because that's the easy thing to do.
You can't today plead ignorance and claim competency at your job. That ignorance was either willful or came as a result of being incompetent
January 20th, 2018 at 9:58 AM ^
She's responsible because she is required to have processes in place to ensure the people under the care of her staff are safe. You cannot have dozens of people murdered over decades on your campus, find out there's a serial killer working in the administration, and then say "I didn't do anything wrong, I didn't know." Replace murder with assault and you have MSU. She is a failure.
She may not have technically known, it doesn't matter. The scale of incompetence is too great. Hollis too.
She and the board have also clearly tried to ignore this in the hopes that it would go away. This is a second and equally firable offense. Hollis too.
January 20th, 2018 at 2:12 AM ^
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I take exception to this. I don't care if this is MSU, PSU, FSU, or Timbuktu U - this is a fucked up situation that demands - screams for - accountability.
I don't think anyone believes for a hot minute that Simon knew Nassar was assualting her students (or anyone else). Nor do I think she understood the magnitude of it when word came across her desk that a Title IX investigation was in progress. She has staff to handle that stuff.
Where she unequivocably failed is in leadership. When it became apparent that Klages had known about the girls' complaints, she should have acted immediately by bringing in outside police to investigate. Hollis should have been on the chopping block immedaitely - he was Klages' direct supervisor. Nassar should have been banned from seeing patients immediately, with termination pending investigation. Everyone in Nassar's path that knew, first hand or second, about the girls' complaints should have been administratively suspended pending investigation. The whole thing should have been reported to whatever police dept has outside jurisdiction (this is beyond what the campus police can handle, despite what they say). The girls themselves - they're safety, physical and mental - should have become the entire focus.
Instead, she hired an outside law firm to figure out how best to protect the school. At best, she acted late and with a lot less firmness than the situation required. At worst, she covered up a lot of illegal activity - including sexual assault.
The AG needs to perform an exhaustive investigation beyond the simple "review" that the BoT asked for. If he does, I believe there are criminal charges coming her way. Sadly, I don't think he'll do it, and Simon, Hollis, Klages, and the others that knew without acting will go free.
January 20th, 2018 at 8:14 AM ^
and at least a couple from USA gymnastics need to be in jail.
January 20th, 2018 at 8:54 AM ^
Is Klages' biography still on the Michigan State athletics site? It was as of a few days ago and like everything else, it was an entire university trying to contirbute to one incredibly bad look in the face of all this.
January 21st, 2018 at 1:45 AM ^
I feel this is relevant to 1VaBlue1's comments. A friend and an MSU alum forwarded a letter she wrote to the MSU community on 19Jan:
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January 20th, 2018 at 8:12 AM ^
some of us know multiple people affected by this or are connected to others that do.
January 20th, 2018 at 9:54 AM ^
January 20th, 2018 at 10:02 AM ^
Yes, this is it exactly. People asking what she knew and when are missing the point. The two smoking guns above have already been revealed.
January 20th, 2018 at 12:05 PM ^
that's this. At a minimum, if she's to be taken at her word, she intentionally looked away from a report of what was going on during a time she had the obligatoin and ability to put an end to Nassar's molestation.
January 20th, 2018 at 12:26 PM ^
Anyone who has paid one cent to the state of Michigan in any form of taxation between 1998 (first known incident at MSU with Nassar identified to Klages) and this date has every right to be wholly indignant on several levels. Everyone else can just share in the repulsion, moral outrage and disdain at a complete lack of leadership, ethics and their god damned tone deaf approach re-victimizing these vulnerable young ladies.
First, it's kids, kids that were assaulted. That's wrong. The end.
Second, it sure looks like a lot of cover up/plausible denial work going on here. Since fcuking 1998.
Third, your government revenue keeps the doors open at MSU and pays Simon a ton, invisible Hollis, Klages pension, fake MSU investigations where apparently they didn't know until 2016 until they did etc. That's your state revenue paying for that.
Fourth, they praise Simon's leadership and gave her 150k last month (which she wisely denied and re-assigned),
Finally, this $10 million fund for the victims? Seriously?Bottom line, they have persisted in acting in a very questionable moral level. They have not been accountable. There appears some very real inconsistency vs. victim testimony. Haven't heard from Mark Hollis. Simon is apparently running the show and "playing it straight". Kind of like Red Lock, Bullough's suspension, Appling/Payne, Ski Masks/Nerd Rage...and this...the most horrible impacting more than 100 innocent little girls.
This has less to do with our collective dislike of MSU in a lot of ways but more do with their leadership, their ethics and their accountability. Problematically, Michiganders not only have to deal with Simon's lack of leadership, her board's lack of accountability, invisible Hollis...they have to pay them while they watch this horror.
On all these levels and primarily moral, she needs to go as does Hollis. Maybe jail for Klages, who knows.
January 20th, 2018 at 1:30 PM ^
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January 20th, 2018 at 1:44 AM ^
"I hope that the right person was convicted"
What in the shit is that supposed to be? Is Izzo seriously expressing doubt that they got the right guy? I can't believe he would say that but I don't know how else to interpret that statement.
January 20th, 2018 at 2:54 AM ^
I thought that was the strangest part of his statement. Is he referring to the child porn? That wouldn't make sense since it has nothing to do with MSU. Nassar's position all along has been "Yes - I did those things to heal them". He didn't deny any of it. So WTF was Izzo talking about?
And by the way, the gymnastics coach is the most disgusting figure in this story. "I'd let my grandkids go to Nassar". Really?
On second thought, maybe it's the MSU review board that decided it's OK for any grown man (MD or not) to touch a young lady that way without a nurse/parent present...
January 20th, 2018 at 12:18 PM ^
that has bothered me. a number of trainers and doctors at msu has said "the procedures" that nassar used were not improper. really? where did they learn these procedures? nassar himself? because he is an expert, they took it as gospel? did all the people in the know bother to ask someone outside of msu for an opinion. like trainers at UM, IU or OSU?
talk about problems solving 101. get some advice/opinion from others outside the organization.
it's either a complete failure at a cover up, just plain incompetence or a combination of both.
January 20th, 2018 at 1:19 PM ^
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January 20th, 2018 at 11:54 AM ^
unless he is alluding to the fact that others surely have enough complicity in this to be guilty as well. And I don't read it that way. What a scumbag.
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This seems more hurtful coming from a woman...
(Assuming you're a woman based on your username!)
January 20th, 2018 at 9:17 AM ^
I expect more from any normal, compassionate human being.
Even dried up, nastly little men can rise above Izzo-level explanations.
January 20th, 2018 at 7:24 AM ^
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January 20th, 2018 at 7:42 AM ^
The only thing I can guess is that Izzo is implying the same excuse that Klages pushed—that somebody other than Nassar put the child porn images on Nassar's computer.
I don't hold it against Izzo for not openly calling for Simon's dismissal, but trying to cast doubt on Nassar's guilt is nothing less than a bizarre doubling down at this point.
January 20th, 2018 at 8:20 AM ^
January 20th, 2018 at 9:14 AM ^
Yes, there certainly was not much evidence of Nassar's guilt, and that combined with his guilty plea, casts doubt upon his conviction. /S
Time for whining Izzo to go back to the cave from whence he came.
January 20th, 2018 at 9:32 AM ^
I agree Don - what struck me was the"I hope the right person was convicted" comment. WTF
January 20th, 2018 at 8:03 AM ^
January 20th, 2018 at 9:12 AM ^
Wrong. Nobody "has to" show support for child sex offender enablers.
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it's never too late to do the right thing.
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Like a couch.
January 20th, 2018 at 9:33 AM ^