Beyond excited!
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SO HYPED!
I think Livers is one of the best values in the draft - a great pick in the middle of the 2nd round.
Add that to Cade Cunningham with the first pick, and Detroit has had an amazing draft... and still get two more picks in the 2nd.
Adding these pieces to their three first rounders last year (two of whom made NBA rookie teams), and the future is looking bright in Detroit.
Absolutely! He’s going to be an extremely valuable rotation guy
Hopefully not an extremely valuable starter for another team! The Pistons have a recent history of letting 2nd round picks go that turn out to be high level players for other teams. See:
- Khris Middleton
- Spencer Dinwiddie
- Bruce Brown
Was going to go to bed. Isaiah still being on the board was the only reason I stayed up. What a good night for the D.
That's what she said
Pistons could use another shooter on the wing…excellent pick
Nice!
As soon as I saw Pistons, knowing John Beilein is there...it was an easy prediction that Livers would stay home in Detroit.
He's going to be a solid player for them. I see him coming off the bench and contributing like Camoren Johnson for the Suns.
I’d have to think their decision was influenced by John Beilein. Great pick. Great opportunity for Livers.
Pistons are the future
??THIS GUY?? now intends to see a Pistons game this season for the first time in well over a decade. Great draft for Detroit to get both Cade and Isaiah .
What great news, Go Isaiah! 〽️Go Blue and Go Pistons.
I'm with you there. Cade, Garza and Livers .... they could be a very fun team to watch
I’m a total fairweather Piston fan. I’ve hardly paid attention to them the last several years. This draft has me seriously interested in watching them again.
Add in last year's draft, and there is a seriously talented young core. Hayes-Cade-Bey-Grant-Stewart is a heckuva starting 5 worth watching.
The Pistons easily had one of the best drafts last year and then had a very good draft this year. They should be very good in 2-3 years and until then they’ll be extremely fun to watch. JB being there should help develop some of the young guys and Casey is one of the absolute best at getting the most out of his young guys. It’s a good core for sure. If Cade lives up to his billing, the Pistons will be in the playoffs in no time .
First Pistons pick of a Wolverine since Antoine Joubert (Rd 6 , #134; remember when there were A TON of rounds!?!) in '87.
Others:
- 1984: Eric Turner (2nd; #32)
- 1984: Dan Pelekoudas (10th ((!!!)); #225)
- 1983: Ike Person (10th; #213)
- 1979: Phil Hubbard (1st; #15)
- 1973: Ken Brady (4th; #61)
- 1973: Henry Wilmore (5th; #78)
- 1966: Ollie Darden (3rd; #22)
- 1965: Bill Buntin
- 1959: George Lee (4th; #24)
- 1959: MC Burton (11th; #73)
- 1957: Ron Kramer (5th; #34) (!!!)
- ok this is much longer than I thought glad it's over before it turns into a diary
Ron Kramer?!?!?
YTRK
I don't care if it ended up being a slightly better basketball move, I still haven't forgiven them for passing on Trey Burke to take KCP.
same, except take out "trey burke" and put "giannis antetokounmpo"
Pelekoudas was a nightmare for the seamstress who sewed names on the back of jerseys. She was fond of Lee.
Jay Bilas actually said that he wasn't a good defender. That made me laugh. I am super excited he is staying in Michigan and has a chance to be a part of helping the Pistons be relevant again.
bilas will never get over us shitcanning tommy amaker
it's ok i will never get over us employing tommy amaker
I will never understand this take.
Amaker wasn't much of floor coach, but he restored the dignity, integrity, and national view of the program after Ed Martin, Tom Goss, and Brian Ellerby utterly destroyed the entire program. Under Ellerby, the program was no longer a national laughing stock - he (they) degraded it to that sad look of pity you can't even joke about. Amaker brought it back from that depth.
Understand him for what he was, and what he did for the program, and you can stop living with hate in your heart.
most understand the reason amaker was hired. but there is no doubt that he was terrible coach. he got 2-3 years too many.
Well, JB likely wasn't available to take over 2-3 years earlier, so if we had gotten rid of Amaker at that time then we likely never experience John Beilein as Michigan's head coach. I like to think that Amaker stayed exactly the right amount of time.
agree 100%
tommy was a good coach and honorable, stable presence at a time when we sorely needed exactly that. he had some bad luck - one wonders what he might have been able to accomplish if jamal crawford hadn't gotten railroaded out of town...it's hard to recall now, but i seem to recall crawford loving college (correct me if i'm misremembering), too. two full years of him might have changed amaker's trajectory here.
even so, he was given every opportunity to take the program up a level, and wasn't ever able to do it. he deserves our thanks for restoring the dignity of the program, but it was time to go. i haven't heard bilas bitching about it in years and years, though, thankfully. he was wrong about that for a long, long time.
Craig Ross has said that Jamal loved college and was devastated over what happened.
The only reason Isaiah wasn’t the best defender on the team is because Franz is a fucking gumby armed savant
Jay Bilas had bad takes the whole night
I think Livers was a very good defender in college but his ability to defend at the NBA level is still up in the air.
Probably doesnt have the foot speed or lateral agility to lock down NBA wings on the perimeter. He'll likely be guarding the 4 and doing it at a size disadvantage.
But if he can knock down 40% of his 3's they'll find minutes for him.
This is a realistic take though I hope we are both wrong on it. He will struggle to defend quicker players that he will face consistently in the NBA as opposed to only occasionally in college.
Great pick by the Pistons. I think Livers was an easy 1st rounder before his injury.
You can never have enough shooters in today’s NBA and Livers is a great one. He is a bit weak going to the rim, but as a 3 & D guy I expect him to be in the league for a while.
He doesn't even need to move! He can just keep living in South Quad (or wherever he is now)!
Who's the last Wolverine to play for the Pistons? Chris Webber?
Let’s go!! They finally draft a Michigan man. Wonder how much say Beilein had in the draft room…
GR3 a couple seasons ago.
They drafted him??
Glenn Robinson - GRIII was on the team in 2018-19.
lol and now Luka Garza with pick 52. Pistons traded their center Plumlee today in favor of all-rookie center Isaiah Stewart. Garza gives them depth which they need. I love this pick. Garza doesn't have the athleticism, but damn he is skilled. It'll be interesting to see what he can do in the NBA. I think it's a great pick late in the 2nd. Certainly has upside.
Garza could end up being a solid depth piece but i really disagree with the upside take. I actually don't think Garza has -any- upside and is already 100% the player hell end up being.
All of his weaknesses are things that cant really be improved. And skill wise there isnt much i think he can add besides refining what he does well already.
Garza has the potential to be instant offense for the Pistons 2nd team. Yeah he will always be a defensive liability, but how often can you get one of the most dominant scorers in college basketball with the 52nd pick?
If you think like moneyball, post scoring has become so ignored that it is undervalued now.
We'll see. Garza has dropped over 30 pounds since their last game and has been working his ass off to improve his mobility, which he knows is the knock on him. He was 6'11" and 243 at the combine. I expect a different player but we'll see how much it changes his game. Dropping 30 can't hurt.
https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/basketball-men/2021/06/24/luka-garza-2021-nba-draft-nba-combine-weight-iowa-hawkeyes-basketball-diet/5329982001/
impressed. Went quite a bit higher than I thought.
I think that his late workouts must have gone well
The celebration with his family the moment it was on TV:
https://twitter.com/TheWolverineMag/status/1420972072696680453?s=19
Wow! So cool. Maybe the Pistons are on the way up.
No players from MSU drafted. Suck it Izzo.
You can bet your bottom dollar that Beilein had a hand in this pick.
Either way, congrats to Isaiah! Hope he does well and makes the most of the opportunity.