Nice to see that quality preferred walk-on that looks like a diamond in the rough football player but a high quality and character person. Welcome to the University of Michigan Gary!
well that's just, like, your opinion, man
Nice to see that quality preferred walk-on that looks like a diamond in the rough football player but a high quality and character person. Welcome to the University of Michigan Gary!
What the fuck are you blabbering about?
This is why we need real negs back.
Just playing around. I still have no idea what that comment was trying to convey.
It's the first few paragraphs of the article, with a few lines bolded to show how freakishly strong this young man is. Also, to emphasize that he's only been playing football for a year and hence was not recruited extensively.
On my phone I replied to a different comment. I must be seeing something different than you are.
because you seem to be communicating in english. How is it that you can't read that?
Edit: This was to Biakabatookus. Must be tired. Sorry.
I get to post a reply to your post and earn 1 more MGoPoint :-)
FYI - I replied to a comment that was idiotic. I assume the mods deleted it, so it looks like I was bashing a comment that was completely understandable. Anyway, I'm not the type to make mean comments for no reason, even if it appears that I did so. C'est la vie.
that doesn't show up here. It's absolutely unintelligible, and that's what Biakabatookus was replying to. Not replying to Beeks. FWIW, I laughed out loud when I read B's reply last night
Thanks Bodog! Now everyone thinks I'm an asshole, when I'm actually just hilarious.
I think this quote is incredibly important for more than just identifying Gary Yerden on a preferred walk on: the importance of resecuring the relationships with certain instate high school coaches that had frayed during the Rodriguez era. Remembering back to a thread from a few months ago regarding how ties to certain programs were neglected during the Rodriguez era, one of the coaches who was identified in that article was Schermerhorn. The general response, most notably from Magnus, was "who cares, Portage Northern isn't a Michigan pipeline so it doesn't matter if he's kept in the loop". I think this proves exactly how important it is to keep those coaches in the loop. Not necessarily because Portage Northern (or other programs with coaches formerly in the loop) is particularly likely to send players from their school to Michigan, but because these coaches are highly involved and "in the know" within their respective regions and having that connection with the Michigan coaches gives them a leg up on the competition.
Let's see ... 6'6" and 330, 630# dead lift. As they say on the 'blog, "Hello, nurse!"
There's probably a catch. It might be that his 40-yard dash efforts are timed with a sun dial. Even so, he'll be fun to have in the weight room.
If he pancakes the opposing D linemen, I have no issue with him being slow as hell.
They are called trenches for a reason, not a lot of space.
I think this guy sounds like an awesome preferred walk-on, but let's not discount the importance of speed and agility. Anyone care to take a trip back to the land of Andy Moeller?
But that same offensive line beat Florida in the Capital One Bowl.
Um, yeah, and they also lost to Appy State and Oregon earlier in the year. (Aside: It's amazing how one game can color people's perceptions of a whole era.)
There was a dry period (with Jake Long and David Baas as obvious exceptions) for O-linemen at Michigan after the 2000 (Hutchinson, Backus, Williams, Brandt) season, especially for a school famous for that position.
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Of course, this gets away from the main point. As preferred walk-ons go, this guy sounds great. I bothered to speculate on his speed only because so many teams passed on him.
I don't think speed is why so many teams passed on him. In fact, I'm not sure anyone "passed" on him since almost no major programs even knew he existed. This is what happens when you play HS football for the first time 6 months before signing day and you don't send tapes to any major programs.
I'm singlehandedly turning this into a dead horse (sorry, everyone), but (from the article):
"Yerden had modest and passing interest from Division II schools Grand Valley State and Ferris State ..."
This implies that some type of evaluation was done by GVSU and Ferris. If they didn't pursue him, well, something wasn't encouraging. Maybe they were just risk-averse. Still hard to see how his size and strength couldn't be seen as positives, but whatever ...
This reminds me of the humongous linemen (whose name I can't recall ... 6'7" and 300 or so) from Illinois that was briefly interested in Michigan. Everyone was obsessed by his measurables but no one bothered to wonder why he didn't have any D-1 offers. He accepted a preferred walk-on position at OSU.
GVSU or Ferris were may have been considering using one of their schollies on him, thus they passed. There's really no risk here for Michigan. The guy will be a project but he's at a position of need and it's not like we're low on roster spots.
Yes, agreed. There is no downside to this situation, especially if he is a high-character individual.
I'm pumped. A 6-6 300+ lb. freakishly strong player that isn't using a scholarship until we can see him develop? Yes, please. Worst case scenario - he ends up being a weight-room rat and workout leader that pushes the other guys. Fine by me.
I'd like to offer a project or two each year like this. Be honest and upfront about the walk-on status and realistic about the chances of earning a schollie. Good pickup.
Plus he didn't do camps or combines.
Everytime I see that picture, I look at the linemen on the right and it just seems like they heard the playcall as a HB Screen.
Dude doesn't have to run 40 yards.
See dude in front of you. GO DEAD LIFT HIS ASS BACK TO HIS OWN SIDELINE!
Obviously with only one year of football under his belt he's raw but wouldn't that be something if this kid is athletic enough and coachable enough to turn into something. Very interesting.
Ryan Mallett considers him fast
so there's.... that.
But does Henne?? that is the question
It's very good that he is coming in at a position of need too. We need all the linemen we can get.
Even if he is not a OMG shirtless type of recruit, he will provided needed depth and provide bodies to be rotated in practice.
I'm glad to he is joining the team.
you need to sentence composition work on
He defintely has the size of an OT and seemingly strength to spare.
Seems to be a quality person. and with his measureables and strength, who says he can't learn to play a little football and make an impact at some point on the offensive line!
Added bonus since we need offensive linemen desperately right now.
A 630# pull is nice for a 17 year old kid.
A 630# pull is nice for a [insert age here] year old.
hope he gets a scholy asap
Hoke said we're going to be tough...I believe him
Frankly, we need all the linemen we can get. We're going to be really thin and/or really young for the next couple years, especially at offensive tackle.
I abasolutely agree, a raw prospect with his size and strength can only help the situation. The depth chart at tackle is too thin and I can't think of any costs of taking on a preferred walk-on beyond the coaches time in trying to develop a prospect that raw.
BOOM, Nice to have a Panther from the zoo on the field. Good luck young( hoooooooooooolllly sh#!, 6-6 330) Man child. They will miss you at Coney Island and Renzema's Bakery. Try to not kill any of the d-linemen, they are need..
who cares. To be able to deadlift 630 pounds the strenght in your lower back, traps, hammies, quads and butt have to be so powerful that if this kid locks onto somebody they are going back.
This is awesome. I don't care if he only played one year of HS football, he has the frame and he obviously (obviously) has the strength needed for OT, he can learn the footwork and technique over a redshirt year and a year or two after that.
A lot of D1 linemen are really raw coming into college, so honestly a couple extra years of HS football isn't the much of a difference. However, not many come in weighing 330 and able to deal lift 630 pounds.
On the bright side, he may be lacking in bad habits.
Hoo-ray Walk-ons! The (generally) unseen lifeblood of any successful program.
6'6" & 300#'s. That's nice to see size back in the program.
1 year experience; that guy from the "blind side" movie did not have that much experience either and he turned out like a safe bet.
I don't think size ever left the program, hate that meme.
Height didn't leave the program...
...but the linemen in 2008 and 2009 were considerably smaller than your typical Michigan lineman from the early 2000's. They got bigger in 2010 due to a (reported) decree from Rodriguez that the linemen add weight.
The average weight of the starting OL in 2007: 313 lbs.
The average weight of the starting OL in 2009: 287 lbs.
I agree with your point but also consider that the line was likely younger in 2009 so the lower weight is, at least in part, understandable.
The 2009 team had a 5th year guy, a 4th year guy, a 3rd year guy, a 5th year guy, and a 4th year guy. So they might have been younger, but they weren't exactly young. And a difference of 26 pounds per guy, on average, is really large.
Couldn't start a thread so I decided to post here. I just got home from a restaurant here in Englewood,OH, where I live. A man says to me that RInger is committing to Michigan at the restaurant T.J Chumps either this Friday or next Friday. He also said coach Hoke would be there! Not sure if I totally believe him but he seemed pretty sure. If any of you live in the Dayton area I'll be there around 5. Annoucement is said to be around 6..I'll be there with a Woodson jersey to support him. Go Blue!
The date is Friday the 15th.
Expect him to don the Maize and Blue.
Based on his tweets and the fact he set his decision date after his Michigan visit, the man you met is probably right.
Clip in the strap, dippin through hoods. What hoods? Compton, Long Beach, Englewood!
the night before the Spring Game is highly unlikely.
This is true. That's one reason I said I don't totally believe him. Having said that it is only a 3 hour drive. For all I know he could be on a recruiting visit.There is a few kids on Michigans radar that live near by...Bolden,the Centerville linebacker that I can't spell his name, to name a couple.
Holy crap, that is one big freeking kid. I don't care what you weigh, a 600+ deadlift is insane.
I have never coached or played FB, but my buddy who is a high school coach claims that OL is perhaps the easiest position to learn for a newbie.
but hard to master and learn the technique that is required to be a really good offensive lineman. I think we should turn him to be a center or a guard i mean if you want to play manball up the middle nothing is better than having a guy who can dead lift 630 and could sit any DT other than Ndamukong Suh.
Hopefully he can contribute after a couple years of development. It sounds like his build/strength won't be a problem.
Quit being such a butthead.
Nice to see this kid go blue. A lot of raw talent but plenty of strength I'd like to see some film from the only year that he played though. With that kind of strength and size, I am shocked he wasn't recruited any harder so I feel like we got a steal here. I don't think footwork or raw talent would be reasons why some teams didn't take a chance on him becuase like everyone says all O-lineman are raw talent at first. For that reason I wonder if he wasn't considering playing college ball until recently and didn't send film out to anyone. Moundros and other walk ons have made a significant impact on the field in the last few years and this kid seems to have all the character traits to be a true leader off it for sure. Does this change anyones mind that we need 6 offensive lineman in this recruiting class? I'm curious as to what everyone thinks.
I doubt it changes it. However - it makes it less necessary, so if we only have 5 guys we really l ike who want to commit and, say, a 4th linebacker who is a stud and wants to commit, we're able to do that a little more comfortably.
Also, by signing day the staff will know a lot more about who Gary Yerden is as a football player. If by December he looks like he'll be a major project (likely) then it shouldn't change our recruitment plan. But if after 6 months on campus this kid impresses more than expected (as in he's keeping up with the scholarship OL frreshmen), I could see the staff counting him as one of the six they intended to add.
I laughed since you saw where I was going with this with the 4th linebacker question. Ok, we are on the same page that is what I was thinking. I still would love 6 OLs but if we have 5 solid guys now and it was a mediocre OL or, say RJS or Ross, we could take the latter. I would definitely say this gives us quite a bit more flexibility since no matter what he is a body. Hopefully this kid can keep up with the other freshman OL recruits and turn out to be a real diamond in the rough.
4 would be preferred, but we'll probably pick up a kid who could play OG/OT. We have Stacey and Braden now, plus 3 OT's. If an all-world OG wants to come on, we won't say no.
I'd say 6 is still a safe bet. Great that we have this kid coming into the program though.
He looks like another Blake Griffin, but with more strength and power
Walk-on lineman with B1G size? Woo! Great news at the end of a long day.
I am pretty sure I was at that meet to, and if this is the kid who I think it is then he's obviously a monster and looks fairly athletic on top of being so big.
I mean, when you get into the SHW class, deads are a toss up, but north of 600 is good for anyone, especially a 17 year old.
Gary is not a slow, fat out of shape lineman. He has some athleticism. He played basketball too! He didn't play football growing up because his parents had religious beliefs that didn't encourge sports. He's raw. Coach Funk can mold this kid into a killer.
Wow - way too early to make any kind of judgment call on this kid but there is a lot of info pointing to him being a very moldable OT for the future.
This pleases me.
They took a tour of Michigan Stadium at night and Denard's smile lit up the place clear as day.
You can't teach someone to be 6'6'' and 330 lbs. He obviously has the strength needed. The kid has only played 1 year of organized ball. It will be exciting to see what quality coaching can do with a guy who already possesses those physical characteristics. At worst, he adds depth, at best he is a sleeper who develops into a usable lineman in a few years.
My son was a classmate and basketball teammate of Gary's at Parchment. I am not qualified to say how successful Gary could be as a football player at Michigan, but I can tell you he is a great young man and I am excited both for him and for U-M.
are willling to walk on at UM. Go blue!
Sometime this year, we will see this kid, Jihad and the slow walkon WR with glue hands from last year on the field that the same time.
Most OL do, and someone with as little experience as this kid will for sure. To be honost, I highly doubt he ever really sees meaningful minutes at Michigan. I hope he can turn out great and play, but it's very difficult, regardless of size, to beat out people that have been playing their whole lives.
The most important thing is that this kid provides depth, particularly in practice. Still, I hope he proves me wrong.
Book it always means "what I will say next is obviously crazy, but it sounds fun."
return to whatever Andy Moeller may have been doing with our lineman, even if it involves Gittleson Pizza, if it means that we don't lose every game against decent in conference opponents.
Finally.... it finally comes full circle... I used to get so pissed at those here who would diss Gittleson to praise Barwis... and when Id tell them to show some respect, I'd get neg-bombed, and had to change my screenname.
I've experienced the same thing. The way some spoke of Gittleson was ridiculous, especially measuring his effectiveness by belly fat. Have these people ever looked at some of the OL in the NFL? It's all about strength and Gittleson was good at straight-line power training.
I wasn't one who negged people for not liking Barwis, but the reason this team lost against good teams did not begin or end with the S&C coach. That running attack last year was the best in UM history, and except against elite defenses held up pretty well. If anything, the defensive line needed to get bigger/stronger/better and, hopefully, that will happen this year. But I never put much real stock into what Barwis did except that lots of kids seemed to like him.
FB, we'd all like to get back to winning seasons, but let's not be silly.
Do you seriously want to return to a dark area of Michigan offensive lines? I'm not sure Andy Moeller was solely responsible, but in the years prior to RichRod's arrival a once-proud area of Michigan football decayed significantly. Oh, and don't say "ORK! Jake Long would like a word with you. HUH!" That's just one guy, FB.
To put it succinctly, separate the issues, 'k? Rodriguez had a lot of problems, but the offensive line (except, to be fair, for run blocking against upper-end defenses) was a relative bright spot. Did you see Omameh block on Denard's 87-yard run? Lewan "donkeying" people? Molk reach-blocking? Schilling probably playing his way into the NFL draft?
Pete Schermerhorn! I love that man hahahaha
Who says he ends up at OT???? Mattison recruited him....just because they said initially hes slated for offense, don't be surprised he ends up on the DL.
"Four weeks later, Yerden accepted an offer to join Michigan's football program next fall as a preferred walk-on, slated to play offensive tackle."
ahhh...ok.... so magnus, please go tell quinton washington to go back to the offensive side, where he was recruited. remember that? just get them in the door, then have them change positions if need be.
Defensive much? The article clearly says he's being brought in for offensive tackle, you just missed it.
Could he change positions later? Sure, why not. But there's no reason for you to be so adamant that he could be a defensive player based off of nothing but your own supposition.
responded. This staff is about relationships. Hoke is right...we need this type of body ... if only to allow this team to scrimmage without wearing pennies. Walking on is not easy. Good luck Gary. I hope that scholarship is well earned.
It wasn't his coach that reached out to the Michigan staff; it was another coach in the area.
CBeeks, I agree with this and your previous post in this thread RE: the importance of strong relationships within the High School coaching ranks.
Now there is big and there is Girthy! This kid is girthy. He'll probably be buried on the depth chart but the fact remains, he deadlifts 630lbs!! Most impressive!
That's probably more than anyone on the roster right now. Mike Martin is more of a bench press specialist.
so I couldn't say for sure where he ranks among current players, but 630 lbs is a shit ton of weight. And shit ton is a technical, measurable unit. Look it up.
Third straight weightlifting title? Dude has been winning this thing since he was 15 years old. He must be an absolute freak. I bet he hits it off with Mike Martin.
I'm from Pennfield High School in the KVA and we played him. Aside from him being freakishly big, he's an amazing athlete. He also played basketball. He can definitely run.
I was looking through our highlight videos trying to find some footage of him, but I only found one play that you could clearly see him. Fast forward to :20 in
I just looked at the current roster, and Gary Yerden isn't on it. Anyone know what happened?