Happy Sunday - Good & Bad News
October 20th, 2019 at 8:25 AM ^
The real news is that Don Brown knows football and you don't.
October 20th, 2019 at 8:34 AM ^
Like a lot of things in life, there is “knowing” something, and then there is being able to apply that knowledge. One without the other = fail. I know that KJ Hamler is the only player that can beat us. I know how to play zone. I know how to play man with help/bracket. I know how to match athlete to athlete. If I don’t do any of those things I know, what does it matter. Even the casual fan “knows” that...
October 20th, 2019 at 8:35 AM ^
No. Don Brown knows live by the sword, die by the sword.
October 20th, 2019 at 9:21 AM ^
He dies too much by it. Michigan's O won't score 35 points every game vs. better defenses.
October 20th, 2019 at 8:57 AM ^
Don brown is an excellent DC, a bit stubborn sometimes. Hamler should of had a cb on him every play, I don’t care if that means Hawkins or me tell us had to play the boundary.
October 20th, 2019 at 9:29 AM ^
Don brown is an excellent DC, a bit stubborn sometimes.
OK
Hamler should of had a cb on him every play...
Don't you think an excellent DC would have made that happen?
October 20th, 2019 at 10:28 AM ^
Sure looks like it vs teams with a pulse
October 20th, 2019 at 8:34 AM ^
Penn St has one Hamler
Ohio St has a roster full of Hamlers
It only takes one to beat this defense
October 20th, 2019 at 8:38 AM ^
Hence, the 93 pts given up the last 2 games.
October 20th, 2019 at 8:51 AM ^
The 31 given up the year before was because the offense was inept. Defense played enough to win.
62 is another matter.
October 20th, 2019 at 11:48 AM ^
Yep. They’ll just go five wide. We won’t get pressure without blitzing. When we do blitz, the middle of the field will be open for Justin Fields to run. Oh and I forgot about Dobbins is probably the best running back in the nation right now. We’re fucked.
October 20th, 2019 at 8:36 AM ^
You couldn't post this in the defense or coaching snowflake threads?
October 20th, 2019 at 8:43 AM ^
Sorry Googles/Everyone, but I already made the same post several times over in both of those forums.
I just wanted to emphasize how bad Don Brown is killing this team.
I realize this goes against how this board rolls, please forgive me.
October 20th, 2019 at 8:51 AM ^
Translation: I am a troll
October 20th, 2019 at 9:05 AM ^
No.
Translation: We shouldn't be losing multiple football games because a coach has a scheme that is guaranteed to fail and this needs to be discussed and screamed and yelled about until its acknowledged and something is done. Don Brown is destroying this team.
October 20th, 2019 at 9:05 AM ^
I believe your opinion, which you are entitled to, is misinformed. That's why your post has been accepted with lots of negs. It has nothing to do with "how the board rolls" but rather that most of the posters on here do not agree with the content and/or the need to post it...again.
October 20th, 2019 at 9:13 AM ^
I admitted there wasn't a need for another thread.
The content though is rock solid.
Fire Don Brown.
October 20th, 2019 at 9:09 AM ^
You’re not wrong.
Nor are the people who reiterate that Don Brown knows a lot about football.
That’s what makes your statement about him killing the team so remarkably spot on. This is a man who has shown to know and understand football. And yet he went into last nights game stubbornly thinking that his safeties could cover the speediest receiver, just as he stupidly went into the game two years ago thinking McCray could cover Barkley. And he adjusted brilliantly. And for no reason, he abandoned what worked to go again with what didn’t and it cost them dearly.
It was a mental mistake of the highest consequence.
And idiots everywhere will blame Ronnie Bell’s physical mistake.
Again, every time we think we’ve seen the dumbest thing Don Brown can do, like the Ohio State game plan last year, guards uncovered in short yardage sets, Wisconsin in general, Jordan bleeping Glasgow playing DT, telegraphed Cover 0 against Iowa on third down and a 7 iron from their own 8 yard line, he tells us to hold his beer and he does something even dumber.
I played Division III football. I was a coordinator and head coach in small-town America. I can’t imagine even one of my coaches or coordinators making these repeated, stupid, indefensible mistakes.
And Don Brown is doing it. At Michigan.
October 20th, 2019 at 9:14 AM ^
Slow clap. Post of the day. Bravo coach.
October 20th, 2019 at 9:21 AM ^
This is a sensible post. I was a coordinator on both sides of the ball in high school and college for 30 years and you are correct sir. Of course Brown knows football but his scheme is unsound and allows for big play potential several times a game. A killer at the D1 level. Same thing at BC too
October 20th, 2019 at 9:22 AM ^
October 20th, 2019 at 10:05 AM ^
Have you taken a half page ad in AA newspapers? NYT? WSJ? You will reach a much bigger audience.
October 20th, 2019 at 10:21 AM ^
How about you root for your team, and we will root for ours
October 20th, 2019 at 8:38 AM ^
Sure we got burned on a few plays but I’ll argue Don Brown and the defense are the only reason we won last week and the only reason we still had a chance last night.
October 20th, 2019 at 8:46 AM ^
So, spotting the opponent 2 TD's due to a maniacal scheme is OK because we played well the rest of the game? Wow.
October 20th, 2019 at 9:21 AM ^
Yes, the scheme that worked the majority of the time and gave up less than 300 yards of offense to a top 10 team is okay.
People like you act like giving up points is unheard of. EVERYBODY gets scored on. We gave up 28 points. That should be good enough to win.
Last season Ohio State won games where their defense allowed 31, 28, 26, 26, 31, 51, 39, 24 & 23 points. That's 9 games on their way to 12 wins, a B1G title and a Rose Bowl victory and a top 5 ranking. 9 games of >21 points allowed they won because they're not going through a perpetual offensive crisis.
Our defense has never been the problem. Defenses allow points. The problem is our offense has demented your perception of what it takes to win football games. Brown is excellent. Our defense is good. You're dumb.
October 20th, 2019 at 10:28 AM ^
That's a horrible take when you consider the fact that they cleaned house on the defensive side of the ball after last season because their defense killed them last year.
October 20th, 2019 at 11:22 AM ^
Brown is excellent?
You are a fool.
October 20th, 2019 at 9:51 AM ^
Wouldn’t say I’m thrilled about it but you can’t deny the defense kept us in it and gave the offense a chance to come back. In that situation that’s all you can ask of your defense, just give the offense a chance.
October 20th, 2019 at 9:18 AM ^
I wish people would learn to see the nuances of DB's defense philosophy - the very reason his defense keeps us close is the very reason it usually seems to lose to good offenses. Rosters of high-caliber offensive athletes, who are coached well, will usually come out on the winning side, while roster's of not-so-good athletes will, with greater frequency, come out on the losing side. DB's defense is a gamble (high risk, high reward), which he tends to win agains low-level competition, and loses against high-level competition.
October 20th, 2019 at 10:02 AM ^
Yeah but his stats are good, lol. That's all most people here know.
October 20th, 2019 at 9:29 AM ^
the defense are the only reason we won last week and the only reason we still had a chance last night.
Our offense gained 417 yards (despite getting a huge play taken off the board) and 26 first downs, it played well all things considered.
October 20th, 2019 at 10:01 AM ^
I’m not saying the offense was bad tonight. I was pretty impressed with their performance as well. I’m just saying the defense forced several punts and gave the offense an opportunity to come back. An early second half score by psu when our offense couldn’t punch it in would have doomed any chance at a comeback.
October 20th, 2019 at 11:14 AM ^
I'm not really knocking the defense, but I don't think they were out of this world. PSU scored 17 against both Pitt and Iowa.
October 20th, 2019 at 8:47 AM ^
Here's even better news-Saturday afternoon/night doesn't need to planned around the rest of the year. One can choose virtually anything other than Michigan football and not miss anything that has happened the last 20 years.
October 20th, 2019 at 8:49 AM ^
"This team can win out"
You know, I had the same feeling. Somehow, to me, the game felt like a turning point. I am hopeful. We will see what happens against ND. I am thinking the result will be a blowout win.
October 20th, 2019 at 8:54 AM ^
Considering how we haven't seen the same team from week to week yet this year, I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion. The offense has been very different each week, as has the overall level of play and style of attack. For me, I'll just start over next week with another blank slate and hope the offense shows another step forward in building on things from this week. I have no idea what we'll see.
October 20th, 2019 at 9:28 AM ^
Completely disagree. Offense has been exactly the same each week. Flashes of potential with crippling mistakes. Each week the potential shows more, the attack seems incrementally more coherent, and the mistakes appear less.
October 20th, 2019 at 9:31 AM ^
If the potential appears more week, I'm not sure how it's "exactly the same"?
We didn't look the same last night as we did vs. Iowa. That game - at home! - was a series of three and outs with a couple drives mixed in. Last night was the reverse.
October 20th, 2019 at 8:50 AM ^
We won’t win out but I’d be satisfied with a 9-3 season at this point coupled with a meaningless bowl win. It’s not preferred but it’s what happens when you lose to the likes of UW and PSU - two teams that we should beat with regularity.
October 20th, 2019 at 8:53 AM ^
8-4 and no game is meaningless within the context of the sport.
October 20th, 2019 at 8:53 AM ^
Yes we "can" win out, but the track record of this program and the logic and common sense says it won't happen. Maybe we beat ND, we should best Sparty, but OSU has more talent across the board than we do and some of it is significantly better. Heck they rotate 13 defensive linemen during a game, we don't have 6 that can play.
The talent disparity is immense and our offense starts too slow to think we can hang with OSU for 4 quarters.
I will watch and will root hard, but the reality is we should lose by 2 scores at least.
October 20th, 2019 at 9:15 AM ^
OSU rotates 13 because they blow teams out. They don’t have 13 Chase Young’s.
October 20th, 2019 at 8:55 AM ^
So the bad news is you are able to start a thread. Got it.
October 20th, 2019 at 9:21 AM ^
No, I think you missed something.
The bad news is that we have a defensive co-ordinator that is single handedly costing this team multiple games, and we all need to scream and yell until something is done.
October 20th, 2019 at 9:47 AM ^
Look dickhead, Don Brown has won more games for Michigan in 3.5 years than Harbaugh and the offense has in 5 years. He already bailed them out twice last year, but you think you know ANYTHING about football. Back to the basement troll
October 20th, 2019 at 9:49 AM ^
This isn’t true.
October 20th, 2019 at 10:59 AM ^
It is true, and the shit posters can scream from a mountain how bad our coaches are, its obvious to me you don't know shit about football.
October 20th, 2019 at 2:41 PM ^
“We”?
October 20th, 2019 at 9:00 AM ^
Actually, the refs never took the boot out of our ass. On Michigan's last 2 offensive plays, two receivers got mugged in the end zone on both plays. On the 3rd down play, Ronnie Bell and Donovan Peoples-Jones were being grabbed for the entire route. On the 4th down play, Nico Collins was basically tackled, and Ronnie Bell's jersey was being pulled while the ball was in the air and as he was attempting to come back to the ball.
Bad offensive playcalling aside, this game was egregiously refereed from start to finish. The early bad calls and no calls thwarted Michigan's opportunities to gain momentum (and first downs), and the late calls inhibited their opportunity to win.
I have a serious problem with Gattis' playcalling and Shea's tunnel vision, but if this game is refereed properly, Michigan wins. However, Gattis' over-reliance on the inside run, his one shot downfield a game strategy, his lack of utilizing their weapons, his refusal to call outside runs, and his propensity to run the same play twice on the same series is baffling.
Don Brown made a few mistakes, indeed. He simply should have had Levert, Ambry, or Dax follow Hamler on every play. Other than an injury, those three guys should not leave the field when facing speed teams that spread the defense out. Brown has got to recognize this. Big plays are going to happen, but they should happen because the offense did something superb, and not because the defense was out-matched.