Gattis says "the blueprint is out" and "we won't beat ourselves" against OSU again
I'll probably get negged by the mob, but anyone else tired of this nonsense? From Chase calling their 2018 win a "mirage" to Don Brown saying they "better be careful" before the game last year it seems like all this program does is talk.
Corona may limit us to work from home...... but don’t think we’re sleeping! 2019 is over but the lessons learned live on! 2020 we won’t be so kind to beat ourselves ...
— Josh Gattis (@Coach_Gattis) March 17, 2020
The BluePrint is out! We have only☝? thing on our 〽️ind! #ARealOne pic.twitter.com/OXdtM20S5H
I don't think "we won't beat ourselves" counts as trash talking. I would roll my eyes at a prediction of victory or something like that, but this is fine.
Except we didn't beat ourselves, losing by 29 is not beating yourself. Fans and coaches all seem to have this similar mentality. I saw it a lot on here after the Wisconsin and PSU games. If you can't admit the other team just had a better gameplan and continuing to think your own gameplan was fine how can you fix anything?
have to agree... 'beating ourselves' implies that Michigan controlled the game until they made an error to lose the game.
Give OSU credit: they outplayed, out schemed and out coached Michigan.
the last two games haven't been a case of Michigan losing the game as much as not even being in the game
March 20th, 2020 at 10:05 PM ^
Michigan was completely in that game for the first half. Mistakes by Shea Patterson cost points that would have made it even closer.
This idea that they got run from the opening whistle is silly.
t(tm)OSU ran them in the second half but Michigan could have done a lot of things to make that game closer. Hell, Michigan had a shot to make that a 7 point game mid way through the second half (then gave the ball up, of course).
March 21st, 2020 at 12:11 PM ^
Sure, Michigan 'has been in the game' in the last two game in the first half... unfortunately games aren't won on halves; you play 60 mins.
OSU made adjustments in both games at halftime and smoked Michigan in both games.
People suggesting "IF Michigan didn't do______, it would have been a different game" often don't acknowledge the same can be said for OSU; that Michigan not doing X automatically means OSU does Y. There's no way of determining that. I could easily argue that if Michigan tied the Game, OSU would have still won by 22 or 35. Both are equally as likely as Michigan winning by 3 if the tie happened.
So, yeah, they didn't get run in the first half, only the second...I guess "hoorah"?
My point is they did not get outplayed and outschemed in the first half. They did shoot themselves in the foot on multiple occasions (some blame on Shea and some on Harbaugh conservatism, IMO). Similarly, second half they played well enough to close the gap and then shot themselves in the foot (again).
Michigan may or may not have beaten themselves as Gattis suggests but without those (major) screw ups the odds of success sure go up significantly.
so Michigan 'shoots themselves in the foot' in the close games, but the same excuse in the games they get blown out?
OSU is ahead of Michigan, in every possible way imaginable on the football field... people can try excusing it, rationalizing it, or be in denial of it.
If people want to take a moral victories out of losses, that's certainly their prerogative...Fact is they are 0-5, and 1-15 since 2003. At the end of the day its the only thing that matters.
March 20th, 2020 at 10:31 PM ^
So what do you think was wrong with Michigan's gameplan?
March 20th, 2020 at 11:33 PM ^
The offensive plan was good enough. Their execution was FAR FAR FAR from good enough.
March 20th, 2020 at 11:50 PM ^
....but our defense was downright stellar, right don brown!!!
I'm starting to think this is a culture problem at Michigan, especially when it comes to OSU. These comments that keep coming out are just laughable. OSU has boatraced us the last 2 years. It's time to wake up and realize there is a major gap between the two programs.
According to the 247 Roster Composite, OSU has 22 out of the top 25 and 38 out of the top 50. Slice it anyway you want, that is a huge talent difference. Like many have said on this site before, it all starts with recruiting.
Agreed. Michigan recruits quite well but OSU, Bama etc are on a a different level. Some of that is out of our control (bag, academics, character) but we need to step up in other ways (win big games, more involvement from Jim, prioritize recruiting chops when hiring assistants).
Talk, like the market this week, is cheap. Win the fucking game.
Meh. Gattis called a good game. Offense dropped balls, missed open cuts, missed open receivers, etc. How can he ensure that his players execute?
More importantly, is he coaching defense now? How is he planning on keeping OSU under 60 points.
Yes, the blueprint is out. Be Clemson., have Dabo coach your team, and have a deep d-line and game changing QB like Lawrence or Watson.
Is dropping balls and fumbling not part of coaching/preparation? The same thing happened in 2018.
Please. These are elite football athletes...catch the damn ball and don’t cough it up.
I'm confused by what you mean here. Do you think it's bad luck that we continue to make dumb mistakes in this game every year? Do you not think certain coaches are better at getting their team to play mistake free? I would suggest you read one of Bo's books if you don't.
Obviously the 5 star elite athlete that is going to be drafted mainly because of his potential dropping a bunch of balls is going to be the offensive coordinator who has been here for 1 year’s fault. He is also at fault for the mental mistakes we have made against OSU for all the years before he was here as well. Duh
Hope springs eternal i guess...?
it seemed to me it was more of a case of Michigan's defense not being about to stop OSU's offense? maybe i'm mistaken as i am sure i was blank out drunk before the end of the game
2-13 on 3rd down 91 yards rushing to their 1000 won't cut it. 14 points from quarters 2-4 won't either.
He’s preaching to the wrong fan base. Put up or shut up.
No we need confidence right now. Even if it is useless (pathetic) smack talk. Something or someone needs to light a fire under this program. We need a sense of urgency from this staff and Gattis has provided that from day one. No reason to be silent now. We honestly have nothing to lose.
We've tried the useless pathetic smack talk already.
I agree with what you are saying, but I think this continued bravado is part of the issue. Continuing to act like the team is at OSUs level gives them even more reason to want to trounce us the next year. Why not be realistic? Why don't we try saying we are tired of getting our asses handed to us, and we have a lot of work to do? Why don't we say it is our job to make this a rivalry again?
Making excuses as to why we lose every year instead of giving OSU credit, isn't helping at all either.
I watch that video, and what I think is, "Ye gods, he's fast!" :)
Looks great to me! :)
Yawn. Shut the hell up and prove it on the field.
I think the offense will be fine moving forward. The problem is OSU has the UM defense figured out. I believe they are better prepared. They know exactly what UM will do. They know UM's adjustments.
I think if UM gets run off the field again this season Harbaugh and Brown will part ways.
I like Don Brown but everything comes down to OSU.
March 20th, 2020 at 10:36 PM ^
OSU absolutely had Michigan figured out in 2018. That's why Brown diversified things.
From Space Coyote and others, there seemed to be 2 big problems last year. First, not having a good DL. Second, Michigan couldn't defend Duo (a running play) right. Didn't even seem like OSU was particularly tricky with it. IIRC, that was mostly the DL and Khaleke.
The DL should be much improved with almost everyone back, and Hinton on track to a take a big leap forward (hopefully with one other DT). Khaleke was pretty good but not a huge loss. Starting LBs should be really good, and the backups will be very young but numerous and talented.
March 20th, 2020 at 10:07 PM ^
I will take this action.
How many beers you want to put on this Sydney?
March 21st, 2020 at 12:01 AM ^
With our luck, we only lose by 21 and some fans will proclaim that we are narrowing the ga .
I knew we couldn't make it through this shutdown without someone from the football program cranking up the hype machine with some line of BS for the Kool-aid chuggers in hibernation. Does anyone get tired of this program, built on hype and mouth-running, with nothing to show for it?
It's really interesting how so many people think his comments are just fine and say things like "well what else should he say?". This is the same athletic program where all John Beilein did was win without doing anything like this. Ever.
Exactly my point. We watched a basketball program get built from the ashes without sound bites and arrogance. Even when the wins came, the program displayed a high level of humility. It gets old to hear the same narratives brought up year after year (we’re this close!) when the reality doesn’t jive with the truth.
Another comment that wasn't needed. We could have snuck up on them. Question is ... are we going to prepare all year or just show up and play not to win again.
You'd think we'd let up a little. We aren't beating ourselves, we're pulling down our own pants in gym and showing the class our 3 inch weenies
Just stop yapping about what you're gonna do and how you're gonna do it, and JUST DO IT.
This is becoming the dumbest thing ever when you have lost 5 straight games by an average score of 25 to 44.
The only thing more embarrassing than the scoreboard is the insistence on flapping your jaws about how its going to be different next time. Just shut up and show them.
Because right now they are just laughing their asses off, and not without good reason.
March 20th, 2020 at 10:34 PM ^
The whole college football world laughs their ass off every time a Michigan player or coach comes out talking big. Nobody at the football program ever seems to know how to shut the fuck up. DO MORE. SAY LESS.
March 20th, 2020 at 11:00 PM ^
Nobody laughs. You’re just insecure.
Feels kinda good to gripe about something as meaningless as losing to OSU. Really does.
So: I don't mind the statement too much, as he's only talking about fixing our own stuff. And I appreciate the fact that he's taking this stuff seriously.
Win the Game.
Actually, first things first: Play the Game. Let's see about getting a season in, first.
(A guy I know and care about is improving after being hospitalized with you-know-what.)
March 20th, 2020 at 10:26 PM ^
This.
If he says nothing then Gattis: a) "doesn't understand the rivalry" or b) "isn't focused on Ohio State...they practice for Michigan every day".
If he says something like the above then Gattis should: "just shut up until they win something".
Nice to discuss less important topics like football but at the same time /smh
I am glad to hear that your friend is recovering. ?
Cool, helpful there is a football season this fall.
He should print up some tees
Cripes, this fanbase is chock full of joyless, whining vaginas.
What should we take joy in the last 10 years?
?Pathetic.