Several B1G games are like playoffs for te division title or a bowl game. Minnie-Purdue loser likely not bowling. NW-Iowa loser has no shot at division. NU-UM winner in drivers seat.
And IU-UI loser is relegated to FCS.
Gameday/Noon Games Open Thread
Several B1G games are like playoffs for te division title or a bowl game. Minnie-Purdue loser likely not bowling. NW-Iowa loser has no shot at division. NU-UM winner in drivers seat.
No but seriously relegation/promotion between the MAC and the B1G would be awesome. Except I think we might have been relegated in 08
Seeing Houston in the SEC would be funny this season, and Ole Miss would be fun to watch in Conference-USA.
The fellas over at SBNation actually did a relegation post a few months ago: http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2012/5/17/3025448/conference-footb...
We actually stay up in '08 (thank god for IU)
If they get to 6 wins, they will get invited. Probably to the Pizza Pizza Bowl.
We've got Michigan, Tigers, and Notre Dame all at 8:00 tonight, yet not a single interesting game on at noon. /complaining
I'm out the door with my two children hoping to run the all day and have them pass out at 8pm this evening!!
To hell with notre dame!!!
right at 735.
God I love Saturdays in the Fall. Pretty good slate of games throughout the whole day and I can't wait to sit on my duff and drink beer enjoying them all day.
Ughh...Herbstreit just called us Big Blue in picking us over 'Braska...Thanks, I guess
Usually I'm out for most of the day when there's a night game, but I managed to f@%k my knee up pretty good last night (tossing around a softball, of all things) so I'm pretty much stuck on the couch, hanging out with my TV, laptop and some beers. Other than the frozen vegetables on my knee, not a bad way to spend a day.
OTOH there are two conference games on right now, and IU/Illinois is 1.0 Pillowfights, while Iowa/NU is .5 Pillowfights. So that kind of sucks I guess.
Bummer about the knee (silver lining though?!). Enjoy the day; at least you have an excuse now for such an ambitious day! The Iowa game is where my attention will be (nice start for them too, Coulter drives them down the field by himself for an early TD). In the heart of Hawkeye land so by nature I watch and follow them. But yea, there's definitely a theme in not scheduling very good games at noon (11am for me). So many good games at 3:30 and later today (Ohio-Penn State I feel could have been a good one played at noon).
Hopefully it will be fine in a few days, it doesn't seem like something that will be a long term deal.
Agree about Northwestern/Iowa. I usually like watching NU, they're a bit of a cool story with their small academic school and purple uniforms and whatnot. I also like Pat Fitzgerald better than pretty much any other coach, so I watch (and root for) them when I can. Doesn't hurt that them winning coupled with an M win means great things for the division this year.
Colter manages to scramble for 20+ yards for the first down, NU in Iowa territory.
Edit: And rushes into the endzone. NU up 7-0 and rushing pretty much at will. Nice.
Gameday in Norman? Gameday in Norman.
Northwestern scores a TD with all run plays.
Iowa really is terrible on both sides of the ball. I'm glad NW is likely to get them out of the way today.
In a sort of "This is what we're doing, try to stop it" drive, Iowa doesn't stop the run but for a moment here and there, and the Hawkeyes lose their best linebacker in the process. 7-0 Wildcats.
Work for their sister school, I don't follow Illinois. Are these black uni's something new? They're up 7-0.
Iowa.....down 7-0 might be to much for their O to overcome today.
Vandenberg is a senior, and not doing as well with a new OC.
Understatement of the year:
"Over the last few years, a lot of attrition for Iowa at the running back spot..."
You've no idea, Beth.
If the refs give you a gift completion, don't give it back with a delay of game penalty!
I still love Ferentz though....guy is a mastermind to be making the kind of money he does for results like this.
So, although Northwestern's passing defense really isn't spectacular, Iowa has apparently decided to go mostly run here, and because Northwestern's rushing defense is middling, that sometimes works too. Nonetheless, Ferentz elects to play it conservatively on 4th down.
Meyer hits the FG for Iowa. It's now 7-3. The hope for the Hawkeyes may be the Wildcats' uncanny ability to not get to the edge and leave the odd receiver open in the 4th quarter, of course.
Note to Kain Colter - I am pretty sure the CB had your WR beat there.
Iowa ball on their own 30?ish.
Look at that...no wonder NW always brings the other guy in to throw the ball. That wasn't even close.
Bad throw by Colter, nice way to pick it off by the safety. Also, Iowa's D-ends need to contain more versus getting upfield in pass-rush, Coulter will exploit that further. We'll see if the adjust and don't get so aggresive. Iowa ball...yay offense
Watching my Broncos hang tough early only to lose big late. #Cubitproblems
Just said PSU and OSU are the two best teams in the Big Ten. PSU tough to argue against right now, but OSU is incredibly lucky to be undefeated. Not saying they aren't good, but I don't see how toucan say a team that scraped a win against Purdue is a top team. And Griese is in the booth as well, but he didn't make the comment.
Interesting USC(east) has already given up 14 to Tennessee.
edit: Orrrr not, anyone know why TD was taked off the board?
Delay of game thwarting an Iowa 4th and 3 attempt.
Mayans must have been right.
/runs down street naked
Delay of game when it looked like you were just about to convert on 4th and 3? Really, Vandenberg?
EDIT: Further, Mark is pretty damn fast. 72 yard run through a disorganized Hawkeye defense. Colter manages to get to the 7 yard-line.
Things to do:
- Establish run. Check.
NU gashing Iowa on the ground.
I thought Venneric Mark was fast? He just got caught from behind by a LB
FWIW Hyde is their DB (Cornerback), he's got some wheels, himself.
That was a quick change in field position.
No, it's Iowa. Michigan will win, but it'll be something like 26-22 and will look like a disaster.
In other news, I hate playing Iowa. They bring out the worst in Michigan.
Some impressive speed by Micah Hyde tracking down Venric Mark on that breakaway run.
So how does Northwestern choke away the lead this week?
174 yards rushing with 11:33 to go in the 2nd quarter for Northwestern. If they keep running like that, this might hit 400+ at the end of regulation unless Iowa dares get in front of Colter or Mark.
EDIT: So, they are rotating in Simeon to show that they could - if they wanted to - carry out this assault in the air, right? He did, after all, throw a complete pass.
or if they put in the throwing QB and completely kill the groove Colter got them in on the ground.
Stupid Northwestern. Had they not blown that game to Nebraska last week, we'd be sitting pretty right now regardless of what happens tonight.
Wow. That was lucky for Northwestern.
I have to think that, for a second, Micah Hyde thought about muffing that punt and thereby encapsulating Iowa's season in an interpretive dance style, but he apparently thought better of it.
Of all the passes Vandenberg would connect on, it would be a floater that, if the Wildcats had a secondary that wasn't afraid of people, could have been picked. Fortunately, Northwestern's secondary doesn't believe in pass coverage, at least the numbers say so.
Kansas is up on Texas. Not sure how to react to this. Please provide suggestions.
1. It is early in the game.
2. Texas has no defense, and therefore most of their wins will be somewhat close.
Right, but let's say theoretically, Kansas goes on to win this game....what next for Texas? I've heard some grumblings that Mack Brown might be on his way out with the way this team has played. Getting blown out by Oklahoma is bad. Losing to Kansas is rock bottom. At the very least, Diaz has to go, right? I mean, he should probably go regardless...
In a previous post about this week's betting lines, I mistakenly made Texas 21-pt. underdogs to Kansas. Uh-huh.
KU's great turnaround has just begun. We're talking BCS bowls.
Schematic advantage, y'all!
Checked the box score - Kanas has 169 rushing yards on Texas with just under six minutes to go in the half? Does Texas believe in stopping the run, or is the run a protected species that should be allowed to roam free and multiply in the eyes of Manny Diaz?
I would just go with Longhorn fans and let out a resigned sigh and dream of having a good defense.
The schadenfreude from Texas fans would be TWIS hall of fame worthy!
Would also be the end of Mack Brown, in my opinion.
No sails...love the commentary
...and a double post!
BIG TEN FOOTBAWWW!
I like this commercial better with the seals and the fat faces.
10 bucks say Vanderberg goes with a checkdown for 8 yds.
EDIT: Or make a horrible looking back shoulder throw 4yds short.
Oh, with some noted exceptions, first downs are typically a sisyphean task for the Iowa offense...and yet, they will go for this on 4th and 12. Will Hawkeye fans watch between the gaps in their fingers?
His knee just bent sideways an didn't come back. This is bad bad bad. That looks career ending.
Great sportsmanship by the Tennessee players to join the SC players on the field around Lattimore.
Yes, it looked really bad. I hope it doesn't end his career, he has a ton of talent.
Definitely a right knee dislocation. Kids probably done for the season, I don't know about career. The biggest concern is an arterial injury.
Ferentz going for it on 4th and 12?!?!!?!?!
Vandenberg just throwing ducks all day long so far. He looks terrible.
He is done. I hope he can recover, but that was nasty.
Worst looking injury I have seen. Best wishes to him.
Reminded me of the McGahee injury. Poor guy, hope he can recover and go pro after next season.
14-3 NU at the half. Very entertaining.
Sad to hear he got injured again. Didn't see it but sounds nasty. Shame.
It was one of the most gnarly injuries I have seen in a long time
If you're squeamish, don't watch the hit or his emotion being carted off the field. I feel horrible for him. The emotion is palpable even with his head covered by a towel and in his hands.
It was one of the worst things I have ever seen. I had to turn the TV off.
God that sucks. He's done for a while after that. Definitely feel for him.
Feel bad for Lattimore.....such great talent and his legs dont want to seem to work for him. Damn shame......
Never seen both teams come on the field to send off an injured player the way Tenn and South Carolina just did for Lattimore. Let's hope it's not as bad as it looked and he has a full recovery.
Damn! My heart goes out to Lattimore and his family. That was a bad looking injury to his other knee. I feel bad...
Illinois fans rightfully boo a punt deep in Indiana territory down 7 (!!) with less than a minute in the 2nd. Big life, big stage, big ten.
Big life, big stage, big ten
That's pretty good! You best TM that
that lattimore hit turned my stomach.. hope he can come back next year and continue his playing at South Carolina
He plays a down of football again
The block I is so much better than Illinois spelled out. We now return you to your regular programming.
Question on Collegiate injuries:
I don't want to sound insensitive in any way, but something I've started wondering the past couple years. So, a nasty injury happens like what just happened to Marcus Lattimore. Obviously, he's done, we know that, so he probably sees a doctor ASAP, today maybe even, and surgery is scheduled for the very near future. Is this something that the schools pay for (if yes, I'm sure they're insured for it, so not fully "pay") or does the scholarship program and what have you not cover injuries to the student-athletes??
We're provided insurance in co-ed soccer. Why don't you muster some judgment and provide your own logical answer.
The school has to take out insurance policies on their athletes that cover anything related to the sport they play.
Had the displeasure of watching Marcus' injury live. I'm surprised serious injuries like this aren't more common. All it takes is one defender up top and another tackling at the knees. I feel so bad for him, I like Lattimore.
So everyone justifies Oklahoma as being great by their win over Texas... Texas is still ranked after all, but how?? How is Texas still ranked???? We've been asking this question for the last 3/4 weeks! They have 2 losses in the Big 12 fergodsakes!! The big 12 is an atrocious conference! They're losing to Kansas! Yes, that Kansas.. The one coached by Charlie Weiss! With Texas as Oklahoma's best win to date, I have a hard time seeing how Notre Dame doesn't turn them into road kill with their intimidating front seven. ND 35 - Oklahoma - 6.
Its a bit of an eye test. Oklahoma looks like a pretty good team. ND looks like a team that Michigan would've beat if not for Denard's Chernobyl-ing.
But having a mediocre to passable defense in the Big 12 can make you look really really good, because you can sometimes stop the offenses that you're facing. Oklahoma will have no answer for ND's legit defense.
They are eagerly awaiting the second half...
2nd half off to a great start for Iowa.
Angry Iowa Running Back Hating God strikes again.
Don't watch this if injuries make you squeamish, I don't want anyone tossing their cookies all over their computer / iphone / wife / kids.
That gif is pretty graphic...I'm actually glad you're on your ipad.
3.5 million for that Iowa fans.....sad.
The Iowa tire fire continues....21-3. Iowa fans across the state are not happy.
Iowa's punt is blocked. Northwestern ball at the 4, and then naturally, Colter gets another rushing TD. 21-3 Northwestern with minimal effort.
What was the game plan for the Hawkeyes now? I think they said something about the runs and stopping them. Imodium perhaps. It may be more effective than this scheme.
Ok, if we don't beat Iowa this year, then I think we're cursed
Right now NW has 201 yards on the ground, and 25 through the air. Michigan might not have to pass on a single play against Iowa.
ESPN2 is showing something worse than the Lattimore injury. It's Iowa football.
10/27/12 1:44 PM
That Marcus Lattimore injury was one of the worst I've ever seen. I feel for the guy. But wow. Not for the weak stomached
I didn't see it but it sounds like it was incredibly painful. In a situation like that, can they just give the guy a shot of morphine (or an equivalent) on the sidelines? I hate the thought of someone having to endure that.
Good question. The morphine/analgesic would have to be administered/signed off by a Doctor I assume, but if they have it and Dr. is present, I would like to think so. Like you, I sure hope so too; though I wonder if the shock is keeping any pain away, for now.
it's unusual for us to have morphine at a game. toradol is much more common and sometimes used. first and foremost if the knee is dislocated, it needs to be reduced asap. as stated before, the popliteal artery is at risk. usually after the knee is reduced, the pain is much more tolerable. then we place the knee in an immobilizer and apply ice. players usually players do not require an injection of pain medicine. if xrays are available they are taken.
Cool. I know you're responding to the above but thanks for the insight!
Hopefully they keep their foot on the gas to close this one out.
I'm kind of afraid to check out Black Heart Gold Pants. I don't want to see utter insanity
Another interesting note, Kyle Prater only has 7 receptions for 41 yards on the year. Not as impactful for NW as originally expected I'd say.
Iowa....LOL, wow just plain pathetic. Meanwhile Ferentz continues to take that huge paycheck.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAWKEYES. WE ARE GOING TO ABSOLUTELY KILL THAT TEAM.
It's going to be awesome.
Dear Lord, what happened to Texas, and how are they even ranked right now? Maybe Mac Brown just lost his drive or something.
There are no tires left to burn in Iowa. It's just smoldering rubber.
That Marcus Lattimore injury reminds me of Tyrone Prothro.. in every way. Tyrone still has a limp to this day, hopefully its not as bad at all. Hope he makes a Willis Mgahee type recovery.
AIEOHG (angry Iowa entire offense hating god)
Looking across the landscape of the B1G, there is NO excuse for Michigan to not go to the Rose Bowl this year. Going 11-2 and winning a BCS bowl last year was a failure to Hoke... If we don't win the B1G this year, definitely a failure.
very true, but winning tonight is a tall order to fill. it can absolutely be done, but hoke and co. need to bring their a-game. nebraska is a different animal at home.
As it should have been, the pass is incomplete, so yet again, Iowa has to punt it away at their own peril. An end-over-end punt takes a couple bounces and is not returned. I am guessing they would rather not add a punt return for a TD to the list of things that went wrong.
Wow. Iowa has Gaglione down now. They seem to be a few injuries away from literally playing shorthanded rather than figuratively.
Starting to look like Iowa could be a great game for our backs to finally get on track running the ball this year. It would be great having some balance going into Columbus.
Another Ash pick. Wow.
Thought he'd try the old Tebow jump screen. He's not Tebow, he should probably set his feet.
I've been saying it all year but why have they been given the benefit of the doubt? They're awful.
Agree. After the Red River Rivalry debacle I can't believe anybody still talks about them.
I'd like OU to beat ND the same way today though.
My guess is it's called the Longhorn Network and/or just being Texas. But I would also like to see OU give ND a Texas-esque beatdown and finally shut Lou Holtz up.
Even with that TD by Iowa on a drive that seemed to take about a month, there's nothing in the stats that says Northwestern can't hang onto the lead, right? Right?
I said the play when Northwestern didn't get the 4th and 3 would be the turning point. I stand by that. This is where Northwestern blows the lead...again.
I read that last sentence in Valenti rant voice.
"When a team plays Northwestern, no deficit is too great to overcome. This is a fundamental law of football."
Question: if Iowa is THIS bad, how much do you play Denard if we're still in the driver's seat for the Legends Division with The Game the following week?
Because he's the starting QB and it will be senior day. Also, this is Michigan fergodsakes.
I think you might have accidentally deleted part of your response...? I'm in no way saying that he should not play at all. However, I do think that you need to have some sort of leash on him to keep him healthy. I'd anticipate that we'd limit his carries that week anyway, if we can. Say we're up 3-4 TDs. I'd probably send him out there to "start" a drive and sub him out for Bellomy (so he gets the applause that he deserves). In the scope of the season, we need him 100% against Ohio State.
Northwestern keys to the 4th quarter:
- Do not implode
- Employ the rushing version of the tradition Penn State offense and take eons off the clock
EDIT: That was an awfully timed turnover by Northwestern. They were in a position to score and force Vandenberg to channel his inner Geno Smith...wait, what?
I cannot even fathom the meltdown that will occur on shaggybevo if Texas loses this game
What channel is that game on?
For me, it's on Fox sports detroit
Thanks. I never want to miss a chance to see Texas lose.
On fox sports... At least in Ohio (Cincinnati Area)
Sorry this is off topic but I am in Vancouver, BC for the next two weeks and was wondering if anyone knew of a Michigan Bar. ESPN2 is not available where I'm staying.
Unfortnately for Iowa the lead got too big, NW will be fine. Even if Iowa takes this down the field and scores, it'll take them 7 minutes to do so
Never underestimate the power of northwestern to blow leads
Iowa d looked terrible in the first half. If colter can run all over them, denard shouldn't have a problem when we play them
nice to see Iowa establishing the run down 18 with 7 mins to go....
I think they are attempting to say that they could have done this all game, if they wanted, and if they didn't have a reason to be deathly afraid of using running backs. In any case, it's generally easier than watching Vandenberg throw.
At this very moment, I want nothing more than a Kansas win.
Did she just say, "play cock"
I heard it too.
Looks like Northwestern may be trying to Purdue this lead.
Purdue just copies northwestern. Northwestern invented northwesterning with this game:
They were up 38-3 with 9:54 left in the 3rd and blew it
Yeah I remember watching this game, Stanton had the game of his life and NW refused to burn clock. It was quite the debacle.
I vaguely remember watching that game. I believe they also blew a fairley large lead at home vs msu in 2010 in the 4th quarter.
You can just feel the nervousness from Northwestern.
Indiana is about to get their first Big Ten win in an eon.
They play Iowa next week. Just saying.
Indiana has sacked Scheelhaase 7 times today, and Illinois is still about to make this a one-score game. Goes to show how bad both of these teams really are.
Iowa and NW are terrible. Wow.
Wow, if we can't beat Iowa this year.....
Feel bad for Lattimore. That was ugly.
I feel bad for too, he just can't stay healthy. I have to think it might have to do with the workload he was given his freshman year.
Someone should cover the Soundgarden song "Outshined" replacing it with "Outschemed." Then, send it to Charlie Weis. He'd love it.
and that is why you are Kansas...4th down to end the game basicly and a Texas WR makes a catch between 4 defenders within 5 yds of each other.
wow KU might give away this game.
You'd think Iowa would be trying to go a little bit faster here....
True, except that for the Iowa offense, this is fast. Indeed, that delay of game call now illustrates how fast they can play.
I think their offense has one speed and that delay of game with 2 min left pretty well sums it up.
TOUCHDOWN TEXAS. WOW.
Good playcall by texas.
this Iowa hurry up is breaking the speed of sound......Chip Kelly is jealous of this speed.
Well at least Iowa is making this game interesting. I'd like to see northwestern finally hold on to a lead though...
Iowa has mastered the 8 minute drill.
WTF my stream for the Texas game on frontrowsports just changed to a different channel.
Delay of game in the 2-minute drill. How is that even possible?
If you're Kansas, why are you not using timeouts when Texas is at the 1? You could have had 30 seconds to march back down the field after they scored.
Schematics man. Weis has them.
Kinda like the Koger touchdown against Ohio last year
Vandenberg just a bit outside.....
Just a bit? The WR had no chance to catch that even if he dove for it.
why did Iowa not kick a field goal to make it an 8 pt game?
wtf was that throw. Who throws in out of bounds llike that on 4th down.
Charlie Weiss doesn't know how to use timeouts. They could have 40 seconds on the clock with no timeouts, rather than 8 seconds left with 2 timeouts. These commentators are so bad to not even notice it.
I'm guessing he didn't think his defense would fail him so badly.
My favorite part...the announcers complementing Weis' strategy right after he pockets 2 timeouts
Illinois is not good....
Tennessee was down 21-7 but has quietly been chipping away at South Carolina's lead to make it a 35-38 ballgame with 8 minutes left.
Further proof that South Carolina was insanely overrated this year.
Mack Brown just avoided setting his La-Z-Boy ablaze.
Only took Oregon 1:47 to score.....Colorado might be in a little trouble.
And then 1 more minute to score again!
I wish I had put money on Oregon winning by more than the spread
On the other hand, Colorado's defense kept the Oregon offense on the field for 1:47, which is probably a huge win for this year's Buffs.
Ol' Ball Coach loves to throw it
Will Indiana eventually not suck, given their seemingly OK head coach and decent recruiting in the last couple days?
As soon as they get to be decent their coach will take off for a better gig. If Indiana is smart they will spend some of their BTN cash to pay him a Ferentz-like salary to keep him if he gets Indiana to mid level in the B1G.
Not a tennessee fan, but I hope they win so some of these sec teams getting ranked high for no reason get questioned.
No matter how many highly ranked SEC teams get beat they have an endless rotation of them to fill each other's spots and with esss eeeee ceeee blowhards on ESPN like Pollack, Palmer, and May they'll always be the "best league with the best athletes"
For as good as everyone says the South Carolina d-line is they are getting very little pressure on Bray
and Clowney gets the job done......
I spoke too soon... It just seemed like all game today and the past 2 weeks they've been having problems getting any push up front.
Meanwhile Colorado down 14-0 to Oregon not even 3 minutes into the game....
Part of me wants to see Oregon score 100 just because
Chip might try... They've fallen in the bcs rankings the last two weeks so he might try and make a statement...
Pounding a Colorado team that is one play away from being 0-7 and is giving up 47 points a game on defense is not making a statement, even if you win by 80 points.
And tennessee blows it again
It's amazing how powerful that program used to be and where they are now.
Just had hip surgery.
Much like Chip Kelly and Brian Belichick sharing notes in the offseason, I have to believe Iowa's coaches came to Ann Arbor in the offseason for pointers.
Tennessee OL inconsolable after getting beat the best DL in the country.
Tenn blows a TO after Carolina steps out of bounds....lol. Wow
Tennessee used their timeout after a play that went out of bounds...lmao
Tennessee really took their last time out?!
Dooley game management at its finest
So much bad coaching in one play. SC calls a pass instead of forcing TN to burn the timeout. Then Shaw runs out of bounds anyway. Then TN still burns their last timeout even with the clock stopped. I mean...
Official kept clock running forcing them to take the TO, but they should've challenged it.
I think Dooley just officially lost his job