Follow up to the Dantonio Incident Today
Some dude just posted on the Rivals message board about the coaching clinic today aka the Mark Dantonio incident. I am not sure what the rules are about posting a direct quote from a premium message board about a coaching clinic are, but here goes the best part:
"Wanna know why MD was so upset? He was upset before it ever started, because for the SECOND year in a row, the moment you walk in the building there is a huge table spread out with all of UM's camp and clinic info, brochours, practice visit info, etc. A grand spread. And for the SECOND year in a row, MSU's table is small and stuck off to the side in a corner. Buddy said the entire MSU staff was PISSSSSSED the moment they arrived yesterday, and they bolted out of there as soon as they were done today. The UM staff, meanwhile, is still there mingling with the HS coaches and putting on a very nice representation of the U of M. In fact my buddy got to sit with Funk all alone and shoot the shit about OL coaching for a half hour last night."
There is a lot more to it, but he basically confirms all the rumors are true, and Dantonio lost a lot of credibility with Michigan HS coaches.
January 20th, 2012 at 9:44 PM ^
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January 20th, 2012 at 9:51 PM ^
January 20th, 2012 at 9:51 PM ^
Dantonio's a douche. Period. Had his chance, pulled off an Outback Bowl championship. Nice peak Douchebag, nice peak. He should be frustrated...
January 20th, 2012 at 9:54 PM ^
Just pathetic.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:16 PM ^
January 20th, 2012 at 10:17 PM ^
RCMB is fantastic. There is one guy worried about what effect this might have on their recruiting for every 20 who are totally pumped at the balls Dantonio showed by taking on a Michigan assistant coach.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:36 PM ^
In Dantonio's defense, he's apparently moved up the ladder from taking on and calling out Michigan's players. By 2016 or 17 he might finally have the balls to be a dick to Brady Hoke personally.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:20 AM ^
Brady Hoke points pretty hard.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:25 AM ^
That is funny. Now that Michigan is emphasizing recruiting the Midwest (Michigan, Ohio specifically) and Meyer is at OSU, MSU will soon be hurting for talent, and hurting bad. Rodriguez allowed Dantonio to recruit well in the state of Michigan; Hoke will not. Acting like a child in front of Michigan HS coaches was not a good idea for MD.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:44 PM ^
After a night of watching UM hockey, Pistons, and Lakers lose, this makes for some fine reading to take my mind of a shitty night.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:04 PM ^
I don't understand why Dantonio was mic'ed up while Hecklinski was speaking - especially when Hecklinski didn't have a microphone himself. What did they want to do, listen to his breathing?
January 20th, 2012 at 11:30 PM ^
all the way around.
January 21st, 2012 at 2:04 AM ^
We really should give MD a break, I mean he's probably been kissing the a$$es of Jim Tressel, Gene Smith, and Gordon Gee for years, trying to line himself up as JTs replacement and now the Urb got the job, he's stuck in EL,wouldn't you be pissed and irritable as well.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:02 AM ^
I expect that Dantonio also gained as much "credibility with Michigan HS coaches" as Brady Hoke lost by not showing up for this event. Why wasn't UofM's head coach there?
January 21st, 2012 at 10:17 AM ^
Well:
Hecklinski was standing in for Wolverines coach Brady Hoke, who was traveling back from Houston, where he was honored as a finalist for the Bear Bryant coach of the year award.
Is that a legitimate enough reason for you?
January 21st, 2012 at 10:20 AM ^
applies here. Do you know WHY BH was not there? Do you bother to look up the facts of a situation before you open your mouth?
Our wonderful Coach Hoke was out of town. He was ateending a small little conference that some say is fairly important. I agree Hoke had a choice to make. I, for one, think he made the correct choice; however, others may disagree.
Coach Hoke was attending the annual Bear Bryant Coach of the Year conference. You might have heard about that? Its a tiny little gathering of, say, the best FB Coaches in the country.
So here is another example of why sparty is sparty. Miwhiskey, (sparty-wolverine) shoots off the mouth before he collects the fact. sparty always does this: draw the conclusion then search for the facts that support his conclusion.
Its called mental illness: please get help.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:15 PM ^
I am sorry, but your attempt to equate people with mental illnesses to Sparty fans is offensive. You need to apologize to people with mental illnesses. Now, go to Columbus and say you are sorry.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:20 PM ^
I should have included ohio in the same sentence. How dare I forget about them. ohio fans/alum are just as delusional as sparty is.
I am truly sorry for omitting ohio from this discussion. They certainly deserve that distinction and moniker. Please forgive me.January 21st, 2012 at 12:45 PM ^
We'll let it slide - just this once.
January 21st, 2012 at 9:58 PM ^
appreciate your forgiveness.
January 21st, 2012 at 6:59 PM ^
I'm a UofM grad (1966) living in Wisconsin. I did not know why Hoke was not in attendance. That's why I asked the question. I still believe Dantonio picked up points with the local HS school coaches by attending this event. Hoke was not there. Advantage: MSU. Unlike some people on this board, I was not trying to be a smart ass.
January 21st, 2012 at 10:31 AM ^
In the UM coach just sitting down. He comes off better probably the way he handled it, but part of me wanted him to say, "You had your chance to talk little brother, now please respect my time to talk and don't interrupt me again."
January 21st, 2012 at 11:20 AM ^
I'm not disappointed. Your first inclination is correct. He does come off better taking the high road. The only reason I can see someone acting like Dantonio did is that he came in with an inferiority complex. I mean, UM went to the BCS bowl, Hoke isn't there because he's at the Bear Bryant award ceremony, the Michigan display of literature out classes MSU's display.
Then Hecklinsi gets up and talks about how Michigan recruits, probably pointing out that off-field performance, like grades and citizenship are just as important as on-field ability--a relevant point for HS student athletes, and one that HS coaches are likely making all the time anyway--but if they can go back to to their players and say a bigtime college coach says the same thing, that lends authority and credibility to the point. Dantonio, already feeling small and insecure, blows up, maybe realizing the contrast with MSU's approach is being called out.
Now, the previous paragraph is just speculation, but given everything we know about Michigan under Hoke and recruiting, I have to believe Hecklinski was stressing that aspect. But even if not, even if we grant the possibility that Heclinski was somehow way off where he shouldn't have been in his presentation (which seems doubtful from all the information available, btw), Dantoinio's response was still the ultimate douche bag response.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:22 AM ^
After looking at the class rankings for B10 recruiting, I think I understand why MD didn't understand the format. Sparty is at the middle of the B10 6th out 12, with less than a month to NSD, obviously they don't understand recruiting at all.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:26 AM ^
My bad they're 5th in the B10. A national recruiting power that's fith in their own conference. Spartan tears will taste like sugar for years to come.
January 21st, 2012 at 12:20 PM ^
January 21st, 2012 at 1:31 PM ^
Personal foul them into submission!
January 21st, 2012 at 9:38 PM ^
Even if Jeff Hecklinski was off-topic or running over his time allotment, there's a way more Mark to sidebar in a considerate manner without being a dick. I just don't understand how a guy without any hint of social grace rises to the position of head coach at a major college football program.
You know, Woody didn't like Michigan and Bo didn't like OSU and they still were able to find ways to be civil to each other. Dantonio is literally a 6 year old child. What the hell does he say to a kid like Mario Ojemudia when he tells him he's passing on MSU to go to Michigan? "Well fuck you, I never really wanted you on my team anyway. Fuck off!"? Something like that seems outrageous, except with Dantonio, it seems so plausible.
January 22nd, 2012 at 12:02 AM ^
January 24th, 2012 at 8:09 PM ^
Lost a lot of credibility with Michigan HS coaches? At least is confirmed to have called Dantonio, and contacted journalists, to say that Dantonio "absolutely did the right thing" and UM's coach "wasn't appropriate for this event".
I am sure there are coaches that didn't like what Dantonio did but don't lump everyone together, as is often the trend when slamming MSU. Plenty of people thought that UM's coach was out of line there. There are people who felt both ways so you have no grounds to write this off as a "lol Dantonio is a dummy omg lol what an embarassment". That's simply not the case.