ohio state blogs will post literally anything
This is very telling.
Has to be a good sign that this comes soon after a Michigan visit.
After three consecutive visits. However, this was coming a long time now. Ever since he decided he wanted to play football and re-opened things, it was pretty clear that a decommit was coming.
is soon after a M visit for Drake Harris though. He practically lives in AA these days!
Sparty fans have still considered him a commit before today when he's been spending all his time in AA vs. East Lansing. If we was really commited to MSU, he would have been spending time with future teammates and coaches in E.L. building relationships. 3 weekends in a row in Ann Arbor when things were also going on in Spartyland pretty much was all she wrote for his commitment.
Well that's a start. It will only be good news if he ends up at UM though.
I'm pretty sure it is good news anyway
One thing we can count on is for Sparty fans to lambast him so badly in their forums that he won't even think about recommitting there.
Dang 3 posts in 3 seconds.
Too bad we don't have anymore home basketball games, then we could have a date to speculate on.
Plenty of Spring Football practices coming up!
I speculated on a date once, and boy was she mad...totally ruined her dress.
Nobody really liked her anyway.
i'll set the O/U to..."yes"?
I don't normally notice posters' points, but WTF did you do, Rager? Where the hell have I been? How's the weather in Bolivia?
Be well. Come back soon.
he was being a total dick and bashing other MGoMembers for not being as rich/successful/accomplished as him. I think he also said hardly anyone on this blog attended(attends) UM.
I'm actually a fan of Rager. I thought he was pretty funny, but he's had a mean streak lately.
Plus he speculated that Magnus was merely posing as a High School Coach who loves Michigan and uses his "recruiting prowess" to brainwash us into submitting Earth to the will of the duck aliens of Glipnar VII, but I may have been huffing paint thinner during that.
We will see where you are when the Duck Aliens arrive.... adjust tinfoil hat...
He also admitted having had "a few" other accounts banned in the past, so it's not surprising that he got sent to Bolivia.
Who cares? MSU recruits nationally now.
/beating a dead joke
primarilly focusing on Canada and South America.
"They wish they recruited Canada" - Nik Stauskas
Rut Roh. After 3 visits to Michigan, I think we might need to buckle up.
Schadenfreude is strong with this one.
Not the typical occasion for this, but if he goes Blue...I speculate this will happen.
and their most famous law school grad being convicted of 40 some counts...Rough day for couches...
Didn't Kwame go to DCOL? I know MSU took them on but that history is always a bit fuzzy for me.
Yo - If you happen to see this hit up the mods with your updated email address. I've been trying to stalk you for MGoHandmedowns :P
...that the couch-burning channel has superior ratings to the yule log channel in EL during the holiday and recruiting seasons.
I actually checked the RCMB thread on this one expecting a tire fire, and they're actually taking it in stride. I think they've wrote him off for a month or so now.
For now they are taking it in stride. I think that they're expecting him to go somewhere other than Michigan if he doesn't go to MSU. I am sure that if he were to commit to Michigan you would see a different story on their board and the meltdown would then start.
Actually pretty much everyone there seemed resigned that he would be attending "scUM".
While some of their rational fans expected this to happen a while ago they have had a couple threads that got deleted the instant the slightest hint of meltdown showed up. The mods are acting fast over there right now.
Smart move by the mods to act on this. They don't need Drake or his family to see him being smeared online because some unruly fans think that is the way to react when a HS athlete does not appear committed to their program any more. It didn't win Kyle Kalis back to OSU, and it is unlikely to win Drake Harris to MSU. Their best move is to be gracious as he completes the recruiting process. It is far from over for him.
Out of curiosity how old are you? I don't want this to sound dickish because I have an honest curiosity but do people, especially younger people, really let what they would read online written by a bunch faceless fanatical people have an affect on them? I am 35 and just can't relate to this mindset.
I'm 42. I don't know that I would personally overreact to what an internet mob has to say, but again, let's think back to the Kyle Kalis situation. I don't know if the internet nonsense was a factor in his decision making, but I do know that there is no way it helped OSU in the matter.
situation was true about David Dawson. He left Michigan and all the 'fans' gave him a very hard time and he actually came back.
I am of the opinion that if he is really troubled by any of that, he has a difficult road ahead.
That isn't to say that I approve of such activity - but it is just a fact of life that any individual, in any walk of life must face as soon as they poke their respective heads up out of the turnip patch.
Edit: once again, I would like to thank my fellow MGoBloggers for watching and reporting on the goings-on over in EL. I just can't bring myself to go read, but I am still curious, and enjoy a good laugh from time to time.
Yeah you must've checked before some of these jewels rolled in:
they had a couple meltdown threads already get deleted for whatever reason
(it's been a slow work day)
Good. So all is right in the world.
Consult thread "where are we supposed to meltdown about Drake?"
Despite the mods best efforts, Sparty gon' Spart. They don't know the meaning of taking anything in stride.
Suck it, Sparty.
this is amazing
Someone on tBB posted quotes from recruits, without naming the recruits. One of them said something to the effect of, I was going to go to MSU, until my coaches pointed out they haven't put any Oline (or some position) into the NFL, I never knew that and it changed my mind immediately. They showed me the (position) and that they had put people into the NFL, I just couldn't be selfish with my decision and had to make the best decision for me.
Granted, if we can take walkon recievers and put them in the NFL for a couple of years, maybe the coaching up part is better than the recruiting. I'll try to reserve any judgements on the staff until after this year. One more mediocre year, and I would hope something will be done offensively.
No, they've gone off the deep end.
"I don't mean this in a bad way, but I hope he snaps his fucking leg and a shattered piece of fibula takes out his right eye."
I'm just glad that he didn't mean that in a bad way.
Great news at a perfect timing after a horrible weekend !!!
Can you blame him?
Drake Harris c'mon down!
I'm guessing Ferns is ready with Drake's shirt...
Apparently this is in reference to a T-Shirt Tuesday Giveaway. He gives a fan a T-Shirt every Tuesday. Carry on with your regular scheduled programming.
Hello: Micheal Ferns?
I see it.
I'm sure that "other" board is having a total meltdown right now even though this was probably seen as inevitable. 3 visits within 3 weeks while there were events going on at MSU is pretty telling. It's not a lock he comes to Michigan but it feels more likely he would pick Michigan than MSU. Would love to have this kid!
Interesting because even the guy from 247 said he confirmed it with Drake himself.
As did TomVH.
Said Drake reached out to him.
They don't seem to be on the same page here.
His dad didn't get the memo...
Did you get that memo?
Same thing happened when it came out that Michigan was at the top. His dad said it wasn't true. Seems like his dad just wants him to keep everything under wraps, which is probably wise considering how some of these recruitments go (i.e. Gunner Kiel).
It seems like his dad keeps interjecting in the media when Drake says something he doesn't like. Seems like they need to get on the same page or Drake's dad needs to get that he can make decisions without him
Maybe dad is sold on MSU, but Drake is feeling UM a bit more. Parents and kids aren't always going to go in the same direction on these things. Let's hope Mr. Harris also gets won over to the good side . . .
I've seen in multiple places his Dad is a Michigan fan. Pops is on our side. Had Mom & Grandparents with him on visit yesterday.
That was my best guess as to why dad would say that Drake is still committed to MSU. If he is not an MSU backer, I'm out of ideas. It would certainly appear that Drake is, if not a UM lean, not an MSU commit either. Strange situation, to say the least . . .
If he truly didn't know, it could be him just trying to protect his son from rumors.
I was under the impression that his dad always liked Michigan better. Is that not right?
Edit: thanks Bing (and not the search engine)
You have nothing to worry about, his dad is actually a Michigan fan and has been his whole life.
...a Godwin Wolverine grad. Go Blue
Take it easy Sparty. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
You're right. Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. It dumps into the red cedar and is apparently that rivers major source of water.
I see a #1 jersey in your future.
Yea, I know he was the best recruit in our class, and probably the highest rated player we've had in a decade... but now he sucks.
You know who
and I know you're joking, but Tom Gholson was a 5* and I believe Lawrence Thomas was briefly before fattening up and playing some fullback. Plus, if there's one position I wouldn't worry about if I was a Sparty, It'd be WR. They always seems to find someone pretty good
I want to taste those tears.
They're comparable to a Pixie Stick...
The tears won't taste best when he commits, the tears will taste best when he goes off for 8 receptions and 2 touchdowns in another of what is to be many Spartan beatdowns at the hands of the Wolverines. That's when it will hurt the most and it will be glorious.
Hopefully a commit to Michigan soon !!!
Stating the obvious, but WR is the only position where there is not ridiculous depth. Coach Borges' downfield playaction game was a beautiful sight to behold at times once Devin took over, and that without any real run game or an elite receiver to set it up. I think Coach Saban himself would have to raise his eyebrows when/if this becomes a position of strength.
Only a matter of time...
You don't commit to a school then proceed to visit their rival school for 3 weekends in a row...
Soooo, do you have split personality or something?
Drake harris talks to urban Meyer on the phone every week according to a few osu fans(dont know how realiable) I don't expect a decision coming anytime soon.
There's a difference between talking to a coach every week and visiting every week. I'm not saying you're wrong, just pointing that out.
Im almost certain he talks to other coaches as well. He is a highly sought after recruit
Also talks to our staff just as often
They just do it in person on his weekly visit.
Oh no. They are recruiting him too. We should just fold and concede him to OSU. Because Meyer is too good a recruiting. Run away everybody. Hide from Sir Urban Meyer.
Obvious sarcasm intended.
That was not my point. My point is that it isn't a run away with drake harris. We have a good chance to land him..I just don't think he will make his decision in the near future.
My point is... Just because the chinless troll Meyer is recruiting him, that doesn't automatically make it a long battle between OSU and Michigan. He is not the God of recruiting. He had visited Michigan the past three weeks so, Maybe your buckeye friends should wake up and realize Urban is not going to walk all over Michigan.
I don't think he'll commit to Michigan soon...
He mentioned wanting to visit a lot of other places, too...
Is this really news?
He has officially fallen in love with Ann Arbor. East Lansing not so much.
I'm not quite buckling up, but I'm tugging on the seat belt pretty hard.
Does he have a new leader?
"...so where's the threat?"
I love how "little brother" was their huge motivating factor and Dantonio just gives us something to hang on the wall to hate them everyday. This gets the players hyped way more than "little brother". The team wants to show Sparty how much of a threat they are and that they're not "lying in the weeds".
Reminder, I'll be giving out a shirt tomorrow.
To Drake Harris?
He has a t-shirt giveaway. Nothing about a commitment.
It was a joke (albeit poorly executed). That being said, I still would like to see Drake in one of those shirts.
Would be nice, ferns does give away shirts to fans as part of his project 135
2014 WR Drake Harris on MSU: "It just isn't the place where I want to be for football."
— CoachBrown TheMBlock (@CoachBrown3) March 11, 2013
CoachBrown took a huge hit with me when he reported UM was "Far and away" the leader for Harris. Then Harris' own family came out to say that was inaccurate reporting. The decommit is encouraging for sure, but I really cannot follow CoachBrown's take on this for anything anymore.
CoachBrown strikes me as the guy who recruits talk to, but they don't actually tell him anything. They just put up with him. I say that because he will give out quotes sometimes, but he never actually has insider info.
I'm not sure why I strike you or anybody that way. I obtain good info from recruits. I do have insider information and I get texts from recruits all the time. Wilton Speight had to change his phone number because of all the attention he was getting and he immediately let me know of his new number. Drake and I texted back and forth today for a while after his decommitment. The Ferns family sent me a Project 135 shirt. I have a good rapport with people and I do it the right way. I seriously do not get the negative responses I get. I communicate regularly with Ace, he has cited me several times, and Brian put my site on the sidebar. What else do I have to do? Haha, I sure am trying!
I think you're doing a good job. I appreciate getting any recruiting news I can, especially when it's free! Don't let the haters get to you. I check your website often, looking for updates.
drake's family hasn't always been on the same page as drake sometimes when interviews come out because even today, Drake decommitted and talked to TomVH but hadn't talked to his dad yet. Dad gets inteviewed and says he's still a commit, then talks to Drake and finds out the truth. I think he was more going on a gut feeling with that than stating a fact, but I take him with the same grain of salt I took Tremendous until he proved over time to have good relations and then got hired by 247.
Today is a good example. Drake has confirmed he decommitted and is not really considering MSU anymore, but within the last couple hours his dad said he was still committed to MSU. What a cluster.
In any event, it looks like game on. Drake has visits to Florida, Florida State, and OSU coming up. Planning to decide this fall sometime so that he can enroll early. And that is straight from Drake.
when young people can look back and see the error of their ways then turn their life around for the better (hopefully much better in AA).
Seems strange that Dantonio and Bollman were not able to convince Drake that he would be the centerpiece of an offensive juggernaut in east lansing.
close your bold
What's up with all this bold?
Although signing day 2014 is pretty far off, and none of these guys are committed yet, it is not that far fetched to think that our receiving corps could include WRs Drake Harris and Corey Holmes and TE Daniel Helm. I'm sure we can come up with some terrible/great Triple H puns here.
Don't forget Artavis Scott too (even if he does not fit into the puns)
We can say "SHHH" to the other team.
@Blarvey, switch to plain text editor before you copy the embed code. (I'm not responding directly, so you have a chance to change that wall of mostly jibberish)
Thanks for the suggestion!
He's ready to receive some DG bombs . What a beautiful thing that will be.
Every time Harris visited Ann Arbor as a MSU commit my thoughts deliciously centered on visions of Dantonio brooding, twitching, snearing in a darkened living room somewhere in E. Lansing, a smoldering sofa visible through the window behind him.
It wasn't the torture that got him. It was the anticipation! and now it's gone.
In other news, Elijah Hood released a new top 5 and we are his number 3 behind Notre Dame and UNC. His number 2 keeps changing, but his number 1 doesn't. As much as I would love to keep playing ND, this is a kid I'd rather not be facing.
Ok. And when kelly bolts next january lets see what hood does
I made a ton of bad decisions when I was his age. He thinks that he is too good for MSU football, truth is that the MSU family is too good for him. Good luck to him, extra spot for a kid that wants to be a spatan!!
Just had some when I was in Munich
Best served in 1L form, by woman wearing dirndl.
Cool story bro: sig is of myself near the Ratzkeller in Munich during Oktoberfest after a night at the Augustinerkeller.
and I thought I loved Kate Upton!
Das fraulein embiggenses mein knackwurst
Post Of The Year.
Michigan Staee Spatens?
"Does anyone really want some punk whose twitter name is Drizzy Get Busy? Sounds like a tool"
"Seems like he's all about the attention...not the MSU/Dantonio type"
and my favorite "Dantonio doesnt want him, he's not good enough"
you can't make this stuff up...the best part about msu stereotypes is that they're all true, they have a massive inferiority complex and it's hilarious.
I can't read that message board. It takes all of my will to not respond to some of the drivel that gets posted there. Not even because I disagree with it, just because some of the posters are that stupid.
It's a little unfair to use selective quotes from the board to paint the MSU fanbase as a whole, though i love it as much as the next guy.
I guess the point is -- we all know that this board has its own share of idiots too.
It may be unfair, but take a look at that specific board, 90% is massive butthurt and they just trash the kid they would've called their savior if he played for them. So Sparty of them...
Perhaps, but they've already had to lock and delete two other threads on the RCMB because the fans were getting a little out of hand over the news of Harris' decommitment. While it's true that all fanbases have their share of assholes, the Spartan fanbase definately seems to be made up of a higher percentage of them.
Definitely. We had a lot of "he's overrated anyways" and "Hoke doesn't want him" when he initially committed to MSU. All fanbases have their overreactors and dummies.
Please stop pretending to be a Michigan fan. Do you really think you're fooling anyone? I know it's embarrassing to be a sparty fan, but it's even more embarrassing to be a sparty fan while pretending to be a UM fan.
UM class of 2006, jerkoff. Get lost.
Ya, I get it. Why do I have a feeling nothing short of my apartment number and dated receipts from Cottage Inn would suffice. Sigh...
Seriously, your Sparty fandom is crystal clear...one thing Sparty fans love that we never stand for is wishing injury on a kid...get a life!
"I agree. Although I wouldnt be surprised if there were some walmarters out there who create twitter accounts and harass MSU recruits pretending to be MSU fans. They seriously have no lives."
That's right folks, Michigan fans masquerading as negative Spartan fans are legion in the Twitterverse. These guys are delusional.
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise
We will just lie in the weeds, how's that? - Mark Dantonio, HC, MSU
MD on a good day!
courtesy of RCMB: (linky)
RT “@CoachBrown3: 2014 WR Drake Harris on MSU: "It just isn't the place where I want to be for football."”
wonder who got in his ear, its taking EVERY ounce of self-control not to go off on some rant.
And there is the nail in that coffin
I thought he grew up a Spartan fan? WTF i wasn't expecting this WTFWTFWTF. FUCKSHDHDHSJSISBFUCKSHSFUCKSUSJDJFUCKSOSOSHFUCKAWDFUCKSPSOFUCKAHSHSJFUCK.
Not the first time that's happened. Won't be the last either.
Maybe he was one of those awesome "I'm an MSU basketball and UofM football fan" people.
Coach D needs to kill his scholarship offer out of principle. You don't commit here, post pictures of MSU with "home sweet home," and then start spending tons of time at scUM and sing their fight song.
*yawn* There are plenty of WR recruits out there. Not like we were strapped for WR talent anyway.
The kid bought all the BS Hoke was telling him about us. Our coaches have to do a better job of recruiting, Harris was ours to lose and obviously MD and company didn't get the job done.
This is such fucking bullshit. God it is so tough to be a Spartan sometimes.
FUCKFUCKFUCK I SWEAR TO GOD IF HE COMMITS TO SCUMM IM GONNA FUCKING EXPLODE GOD FUCKING DAMIT
Short turn this doesn't hurt the team much, WR talent is fine right now. But long term, this hurts perceptions about our program. A highly ranked kid who grew up a fan wanted to check out "bigger football schools" and will likely attend one.
He visited Michigan 3 weekends in a row? Jesus.
If it was simply a matter of "Coach, I may have jumped the gun and I need to decommit and look at my options," then that would have been a different story. However, Harris remained committed to MSU but he was acting like he was a strong verbal to scUM. Singing Hail to the Victors as a MSU commit after the MSU/scUM game? Ridiculous.
Worst part of this is that it is starting look like Michigan picks who thy want, then OSU, then we get what's left. It is annoying because coach D is 10x the coach fat boy is.
I know you guys are fishing but let's be honest, the kid wants to play at a national football program. The reason why he picked here in the first place is because he was playing both sports and didn't have many major football offers. He is focusing on football and then the offers rolled in.
Writing on the wall.
Obviously some of the comments have since been deleted. I tried to snag as many nuggets as I could before they delete the thread altogether.
I don't know why, but them calling us scUM drives me nuts.
Oh really? Well take comfort in knowing 99 of 100 who say SCUM applied to Michigan and DID NOT get in.
that's probably why they do it...
That's what they're trying to do. Don't let them win. Don't let it get to you.
I have to make a sad confession that I clicked on this thread hoping it would link to RCMB.
Schadenfreude! Good to see Sparty panic!
I'm sorry I was a little suspicious about his commitment when he was seen singing "Hail to the Victors" at last weeks BB game.
probably will still be a long process but this could only be viewed as positive in how he views Michigan
national football recruit if he's committed to MSU. Only slightly kidding.
I certainly want him Blue, but hope he checks out the powerhouses (even Bama) so he knows UM is the best place for him.
Since he decommited, I decided to watch his video. Man is he a smooth runner. He just glides past people. Very good athlete, hope he goes Blue.
Are they cheering for Stauskas?
Great Day to be a Spartan huh Kwame Kilpatrick? Go Blue
When he heard about Devin getting a 5 th year he knew where he wanted to be unless Urban offer up the check book
He would only have one year with DG, wouldn't he?
2014 recruit so scratch this season and (of course he would start as a FR) so he would have 2014 to play with him.
and better standards. He sees our long term team strength and Sparty's short run coming to a close.
He was just interviewed by some guy named Kevin Gehl at WLNS (Lansing TV 6). Here's a tidbit that will be loved by Sparty "Im just playing football now, I wanna play at a bigger school, win a national championship."
Yep. Sounds about right.
crap, michigan is a lot smaller than state both in enrollment and campus area.
I'm having day dreams of Harris and George Campbell lined up together one day..please, don't wake me..
so he is officially decomitting from his unofficial, verbal commitment.
I don't really take any pleasure in the State schadenfreude. I'm just happy because at this juncture, we look like a lock for a top tier in-state player at a position of weakness.
I don't really follow recruiting at all, but I will actually be awaiting this Hello post.
It looks good but I wouldn't say "lock" for us just yet. He visited MSU a lot and has now visited us a lot. He has already discussed going to visit OSU and being a 2014 recruit, it looks like this is just now getting started rather than coming to an end. He has expressed interest in OSU, Alabama, and I think ND and Oregon as well. I'm betting this is going to be a long wait and see what happens.
Although I think we are the clear leader, I tend to agree with you. Hoke won't let him commit right away if he plans on taking those trips.
Definitely agree and I think the way this is going right now (basically an explosion inside of a circus inside of a bum rush of schools trying to contact him and get him to visit) it's probably for the best. What is there left to see after spending the last couple weekends in AA? I am sure he has met some of the recruits and seen everything the campus and staff can offer. Now he has made it clear he wants to get out and see some other schools. It's best we don't end up like MSU (or OSU with Marshall) and jump on him right now only to see him reopen things at a later date. Let him live it up now, get it all out, then hopefully come back when he sees his best options here.
For the past 4 years, MSU has made my blood boil. Now it's basically back to being, "Aww, you guys had a good little run and tried sooo hard!! Great job!!"
For the long term success of michiganstate, I really think they need to follow oregon's lead with the uniforms. They have a pretty cool logo, pretty classic colors that could make some really cool uniforms if they would get creative and take some risks. Also, when Michigan is running a pro-style offense, they need to accept that they will just not be able to compete with us and run a spread-like offense. Maybe that sounds arrogant? I think it's just realistic. Jim Bollman, really? Lol
Let's see. Harris visits Ann Arbor 3 weekends in a row and then decommits from MSU one day after his last visit. I'd say we're in good shape but I do think it'll be awhile before he makes any decision IMO.
Just recently said in an interview he wants to decide in the fall (specifically mentioned October) so that he can enroll early wherever he is going.
obvious good news is obvious
He told me that he doesn't have a leader but after 3 weekends in a row in AA and then a decommitment from Sparty, I'd feel pretty good if I was the Michigan coaching staff.
Why would anyone trust you? You're a pizza burn on the roof of this blog's mouth. You're not an insider. You're just a creep show who PMs children. Yes. Children.
It's best to just ignore these kind of people. They will be everywhere, ignore them and keep on, keepin on. As they say,"Haters gon' Hate."
Would second the appreciation, Coach Brown. Please keep giving us free info, and we too will be sad when you move onto a paid gig somewhere like TomVH and Steve (the guy from Tremendous?)
FWIW I enjoy/appreciate your info, and am a frequent visitor of themblock. Keep up the good work, some people just like to get pissed off at something/someone.
Clearly, his commitment can go a lot of ways, so I don't celebrate because I honestly think he will commit to Michigan, but I DO celebrate knowing that Dantonio gets a few less hours of sleep knowin' he's been had!
Where's the threat??
While it might be too early for leaders (and he doesn't claim any), it's safe to say that MSU is in the rearview mirror. That's one less (little) program getting in his ear. No way he goes back there now so it's just us and... pretty much the rest of the big boys in college football slugging it out. All these early visits will only help.
I have a reservation at the Pine Club.
@KevinGehlWLNS Drake Harris: "Since I'm just playing football now, I wanna play at a bigger school, win a national championship."
I despise Dantonio and MSU as much as anyone, and it is true they aren't on a trajectory to be a NC contender. But not calling personally to make the decommit after being committed so long and making comments like that just doesn't seem like the classiest way to do it.
That said, I still love the Sparty meltdown and hope he ends up here.
Who said he didn't call?
He did not talk to msu coaches yesterday, his high school coach called for him to say he was decommitting.
Love the Drake!
Imagine what a kid feels like walking out of Mork's office as opposed to walking out of Brady's office.
I'm thinking picking which one you like better isn't that hard.
Sorry, had to check the RCMB real quick. Saw a great quote:
"It's not like we're freakin Akron!"
LOLZ, might as well be with Michigan in the same state.
Yeah, Michigan is a real powerhouse right now...says Rivals. Lol
He should go to Alabama or OSU if he wants to win a Nat Champ like he says. It's been a long time since UM did anything on the national stage since the SEC has risen.
This asshat writes for the Lansing State Journal. He implies that Drake Harris is "feeble minded" and "must-stare-at-his-cellphone-every-free-second-for-stimulation". No rotten grapes there. Way to show off that spartan class Graham. He goes off on some delusional rant about how MSU is just as likely to win a National Championship as UM and OSU...It's pretty funny stuff, you'd think it was straight out of RCMB...