November 16th, 2019 at 7:22 PM ^
Never was there a greater paper tiger. They drop 3 games at least if they play Michigan's schedule up to now.
November 16th, 2019 at 7:41 PM ^
100% They are .500 with Michigan's schedule. They lose to Army, PSU (at PSU), Notre Dame, Wisconsin and maybe even MSU. I for one was happy to see Iowa win. Wisconsin will win too. So sick of these schools who play a nobody schedule and only have to get up for one or two games (Clemson). Teams like Michigan have a bullseye on their back every game and play a tough schedule. Indiana will be a tough game next week then of course OSU.
November 16th, 2019 at 7:47 PM ^
I'd say you have a bit of an inflated view of Michigan. Do you think Michigan has any more of a "target on their back" than Penn State or Ohio State?
November 17th, 2019 at 6:46 AM ^
That wasn't the point. I did not say Michigan is the only team that has a target on their back every game. Of course other blue blood programs have the same target (ND, OSU, PSU, USC, Alabama, ETC). My point was, there are schools who don't have a target on their back until they are highly rated. Michigan could be 3-5 and opponents will have some extra motivation because it is Michigan. Like this weekend. Indiana will be sky high for Michigan (especially since Hart is on coaching staff). Michigan coming off an emotional win, it will be a tough game. Nationally, Minnesota was getting little attention until they were 8-0 playing PSU. Year in and year out, Michigan is one of the top draws on TV, go look at TV ratings the past couple years. Michigan is at or near the top for total TV audience each year. So, it isn't just me that thinks Michigan is a big deal, viewers and advertisers do as well.
November 16th, 2019 at 9:57 PM ^
We should probably cool it with the army talk. They have been awful since we played them. Definitely not the team we expected and hoped they would be this year. Thank God we won that and no one remembers outside of us
November 17th, 2019 at 12:05 AM ^
Clemson would murder Michigan.
November 17th, 2019 at 2:30 AM ^
I really don’t understand how you can come to that conclusion. Minnesota loses by 4 points on the road in Kinnick in a big game and now you have them going .500 if they played our schedule.
We have multiple mutual opponents and it’s clear that we and Minnesota are not very far away on the field. I’d say very close actually, and you’ll likely see that manifested in the rankings this week (whether it be CFP, S&P+, AP, USA Today, or whatever metric you want to use) . We get a little hot and feel full of ourselves.
November 17th, 2019 at 7:03 AM ^
Minnesota beat South Dakota State, Fresno State and Georgia Southern by a total of 13 pts. Right now, if Minnesota had played ND (Home), PSU (whiteout at night), Wisconsin (home) and Iowa (home) would they be 9-1? I don't think so.
Offensively I agree we are not that far apart and maybe even an edge to Minnesota because this is year 3 for Flecks offense and Michigan installed a new offense at beginning of year. Defensively, not even close, Michigan way ahead. Looks like Michigan is finding itself offensively but you can tell it is still a work in progress.
Let's see what Fleck can do year in and year out. Win 9 + games for the next 3 years and then you have something. And that is playing in the much weaker Western Conference.
November 16th, 2019 at 8:32 PM ^
They play both of Michigan’s losses, and are currently 1-0 against them. Settle down hoss.
November 16th, 2019 at 8:34 PM ^
They played PSU tight at home. You think they win in a night game white out, hoss? I sure the fuck don't, hoss. We, on the other hand, would have kicked the shit out of Iowa tonight, hoss. You think they beat ND, hoss? I sure don't, hoss.
November 16th, 2019 at 9:06 PM ^
You’re oddly upset after a win
November 16th, 2019 at 10:24 PM ^
...hoss
November 17th, 2019 at 2:57 AM ^
You mean like the same way we played Iowa close at home? Lol chill out hoss. You’re wrong for thinking we march into Kinnick and run shit no problem. We beat Iowa 10-3... Sure we’ve gotten better since then but throw in the element of a big night game in Kinnick and I’m not sure we would have “kicked the shit out of Iowa” - it would’ve been a game.
I know we’re high on ourselves because we just beat a rival but let’s not disregard top 25 teams [especially if in the hypothetical we would’ve been on the road ;) ].
So just relax hoss. Enjoy the win. It’s ok that other teams are also good. No need to hate.
November 16th, 2019 at 8:42 PM ^
Ok, so we’re NOT debating if Fleck’s a better coach than Harbaugh anymore?
November 16th, 2019 at 9:44 PM ^
When Fleck ran out onto the field and drew an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty after Iowa had gotten called for one that would have backed them up inside the ten, I had the same thought. I mean, he was right at the goal line in the middle of the field arguing. Dumb.
November 16th, 2019 at 9:49 PM ^
You're saying this topic hasn't aged well?
November 16th, 2019 at 7:22 PM ^
Hope they can tow the boat home. Don’t mess with November Kinnick night juju
November 16th, 2019 at 7:22 PM ^
Time to rush the field. Get that pig, Iowa!
November 16th, 2019 at 7:23 PM ^
Apparently the only team immune to Kinnick voodoo is Penn State.
November 16th, 2019 at 7:26 PM ^
Have they played there in November?
November 16th, 2019 at 8:16 PM ^
No, but I don't think November matters that much. Purdue and Northwestern have won November games at Kinnick in just the last 2 years.
Iowa's HFA isn't as great as people make it out to be.
November 16th, 2019 at 8:29 PM ^
Yeah, but they weren't ranked in the top 10. To counter November Kinnick magic you have to suck.
November 16th, 2019 at 8:35 PM ^
I'd bet right now that Wisconsin wins next November in "magical" Kinnick Stadium. They are 5-0 in IC just this decade.
November 16th, 2019 at 8:35 PM ^
Uhh, 2008 happened
November 16th, 2019 at 8:37 PM ^
Yep. Iowa played better than Penn State that day. Nothing "magical" happened that day.
November 16th, 2019 at 10:28 PM ^
PSU was a top 5 team that year and Iowa was unranked. Call it magical or whatever but a much less talented team consistently outplaying much more talented and highly ranked teams at Kinnick is what people are talking about.
November 16th, 2019 at 10:33 PM ^
PSU finished 2008 #5 in S&P+, and Iowa #6.
#6 beating #5 at home on a game-ending Field Goal? Sounds exactly like what one would expect.
I understand why it's a thing - but this board meme about "magical" Kinnick doesn't jive with the actual facts. Wisconsin is 5-0 there this decade. Purdue & Northwestern have won there in November within the last 2 years. An FCS team won there in 2016.
November 16th, 2019 at 10:49 PM ^
I’m not memeing anything dude. Iowa consistently outplays and beats much higher ranked teams at Kinnick. Just because they haven’t done it against Wisconsin doesn’t mean it isn’t true. Your Purdue and northwestern examples are irrelevant because they weren’t good teams.
Also, I’d love to know what the s&p+ for Iowa was when they were 5-4 entering the PSU game. Their ranking after finishing 9-4 and winning 4 straight isn’t really going to represent how big of an upset the PSU win was.
November 17th, 2019 at 12:32 AM ^
Consistently? No. The facts simply don't bear that out.
Including today, Iowa is still only 4-4 over the last 4 years in home games against ranked teams.
Including today, Iowa is 4-10 this decade in home games against ranked teams.
Iowa is 1-8 this decade in home games against Wisconsin and Penn State. 8 of those 9 Wisky/PSU teams won at least 9 games, and the other won 8, so they were all pretty good.
November 16th, 2019 at 7:23 PM ^
Sooooo ... what does this mean for Big 10 champ chances ... WHEN and after we beat Ohio St?
I'm asking for a friend. =)
November 16th, 2019 at 9:33 PM ^
Ha!
I think we'd all written that off already, but the "so you're saying there's a chance" died today when Indiana missed hanging a 2nd L on Penn State by only one touchdown, losing 34-27.
Penn St finishes w Rutger.
ESPN is giving PSU a 15% chance to beat OSU next weekend.
November 16th, 2019 at 7:24 PM ^
Hope Brian didn't bet money on Minnie like he said he was going to on the WTKA Roundtable.
November 16th, 2019 at 7:27 PM ^
Who cares what he does.
November 16th, 2019 at 7:47 PM ^
Does JPC stand for “Jesus Pucking Christ?” Because that’s often what I think to myself after reading your drivel.
November 16th, 2019 at 8:35 PM ^
Use the troll cave then. Problem solved, dipshit.
November 16th, 2019 at 7:25 PM ^
You're top 10. You go to Kinnick. You lose.
Them's the rules.
November 16th, 2019 at 7:28 PM ^
Welcome to the real world Gophers
November 16th, 2019 at 7:29 PM ^
Are they still in the drivers seat in the west?
November 16th, 2019 at 7:31 PM ^
Yes, they just need to beat Wisconsin at home in two weeks.
November 16th, 2019 at 7:30 PM ^
Gophers have trouble rowing boats in cornfields, apparently.
November 16th, 2019 at 7:30 PM ^
Kinnick magic and all, yes, but Minny also hadn't played anyone with a pulse away from the Twin Cities.
November 16th, 2019 at 7:32 PM ^
This is the only original and genuine thread on Minnesota. All others are cheap imitations and fake news.
November 16th, 2019 at 7:41 PM ^
Fucking Kinnick. They still have a great chance to win the West though.
November 16th, 2019 at 7:42 PM ^
Well P.J. Fleck, you had a great season at Western. Also that commercial of you rowing a boat with the Gopher mascot while wearing clothes so clashy and attention-whore they'd make a millenial blush.
November 17th, 2019 at 8:39 AM ^
"I'm gonna be super smart and funny and mock millennials!"
/spells millennials wrong
Hey, you tried.
November 16th, 2019 at 7:52 PM ^
Minnesota lost. Auburn lost. Figure Michigan moves up two in the CFP poll.
Michigan likely to move ahead of the loser of the Oklahoma/Baylor game. Hopefully, Michigan occupies the #12 slot in the CFP on Monday evening.
Really hoping Michigan can get into the CFP top-ten before the Ohio State game.
November 16th, 2019 at 8:06 PM ^
It doesn't really matter. We're locked into the Holiday Bowl regardless of our final ranking.
November 16th, 2019 at 8:50 PM ^
I don't know about the Holiday Bowl, but we're locked in with Florida regardless.
November 16th, 2019 at 10:29 PM ^
Someone mentioned the Alamo Bowl in another thread. Not sure if sarcastic...
November 16th, 2019 at 10:15 PM ^
I hope not. It would suck playing on a Friday at 5.
I know Michigan can't go to one of the Florida bowls, but why can't we still play in a NY 6 Bowl like the Cotton? Especially if we are ahead of PSU in the final rankings.