DON'T UNBUCKLE YET
I'm told that #Michigan could land a new 2016 commitment as early as tomorrow http://t.co/FFlc03vTYt ($) @SamWebb77 @AllenTrieu @BriceMarich
— Corey Bender (@Corey_Bender) June 7, 2015
Link says that newly offered DE/OLB Terrell Lucas plans to annouce this week, possibly as early as Monday, and they think that Michigan has a strong shot.
Another note in that thread: They mention that a second Floridian would commit on the spot if Michigan offered.
#Michigan offers 2017 four-star WR Daquon Green, a top performer at the USF satellite: http://t.co/xOQGT6IqVG pic.twitter.com/jZu6k5Acst
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How does a 2017 kid have a HUGE TATTOO on his chest? What kind of parent signs off on that?
You're right, that tattoo probably means he'll live in his parents basement the rest of his life. Definitely not goin anywhere.
In my day, the guys with big tattoos hung out with motorcycle gangs and didn't have actual parents (or at least wouldn't admit to it). The guys in the parents' basement wore dingy T-shirts and sneakers (not to be confused with athletic shoes or trainers, which were a bit too new-fangled to find their way down to the basement).
Or so I'm told.
Those guys that hung out in their parents' basement got tech jobs in the late '90s and are now multi-millionaires. I however gave up on tech when my computer instructor proudly announced to the class that the 8088 processor was coming out and that would be the zenith of computer processing. The same guy thought the MAC was just a glorified computer game.
My son turned 18 on June 2nd and graduated on Friday. He told me that he can now get ink. I asked him to just wait a bit and not break his mother's heart.
I've got 5 kids--three girls from ages 25 to 11 and twin boys at nearly 7 (yeah, i feel as crazy as that sounds!) and getting a tatoo at 17 means you will find SOMEWHERE ELSE to live...and it sure as heck won't be in my basement (especially not in my way cool mancave section). Once you can afford ink, you can pay rent. Preferably at your own apartment. And no, I'm not sorry.
I have no issues with tattoos on people. I suppose I'm old fashioned and think people should you know, be actual adults, before inking their body permanently.
"My day" would be right now. I'm a 2009 grad of Michigan and an active duty officer in the Marine Corps.
I've got nothing against tattoos or anything like that. I'd like to get some myself. To me though, a parent allowing their 16 year old kid get a huge chest tat seems a little silly.
I nearly got a tattoo of my fraternities crest when I was in college, but was talked out of it by my dad, who has 4 tattoos himself.
Seriously. Don't get why so many people are pissed off at you like you're being some fascist. I have a tattoo on my chest and don't regret it all, but it's hard to imagine me being happy with a tattoo on my chest if 16 or 17-year-old me was the one allowed to choose it.
Getting a tattoo is not like dyeing your hair or getting a piercing. Tattoo removal is good business.
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without parental consent. Many don't allow it under any circumstances.
Who have large tattoos on their chest similar to his.
Don't get me wrong, there's definitely something of a generational gap. I'm almost 50 and although tattoos don't bother me (with an occasional exception) they've also never really interested me, either.
He had/has a huge tattoo, not my thing but he looks normal with a t shirt on. To each his own. A lot of people get chest tattoos becasue they are easily hidden.
OMG Shirtless
The kind that allows their child to make his or her own decisions. It's not like it isn't easily covered with a shirt.
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Yep it is going to be very interesting to watch this class down the road - much more than normal because quite a few kids are not going to be widely scouted or ranked. A lot of Beilein going on here.
Couldn;t agree more, but they're obviously seeing something they like and if it starts turning into a train of Chase Thomases and other Stanford headhunters I am all for it.
Yeah, it's not like the staff is a week from signing day and they are desperate and out of time.
They must have seen what they like and are willing to pull the trigger right now. No need to wait around.
This will snowball. As it becomes clear that Harbaugh will lock in early, it will pressure more kids with interest to commit early so as not to be shut out.
Top HS kids always have the leverage; they can go anywhere they want. Lesser recruitred kids will be the ones feeling the pressure to commit early.
There's also a fundamental flaw in recruiting. The players at the top are mostly guys who matured early and started impressing as freshmen and sophomores. Sometimes these guys turn out to be great, but many of them are simply early bloomers who don't stand out when it's all said and done. The late bloomers often turn out to be better players. Just check the lists of NFL stat leaders and how many were relative unknowns in college.
Somebody has to offer them first. Kingston Davis didn't have a mega offer sheet when we offered him and has since picked offers from Florida and Texas. I guess he magically got better? The starz focus is irritating . Some on this site conclude, "eh don't want him" based only on their rigorous analysis looking at how many stars are currently beside his name. Do you think Harbaugh and his staff look at or care how many stars the kid has when evaluating offers? (this isn't directed at you, just a general rant)
I think this reflects a common misconception about what Beilein is and does. Beilein wants 5 star recruits. There are some guys he identifies early who are 'underranked' but they are, by and large, a small minority. He, like any other coach on the planet, wants the Jaylen Browns, Kevin Looneys, and Devin Bookers. He only moves on to the sleepers after those guys make it clear they aren't coming. That approach is akin to Michigan's recruitment of Ulazio after other top-tier linemen had passed. The bball equivalent is grabbing up Spike and Caris after other top targets passed.
This is not that. What Harbaugh and staff are doing is very different given where we are in the cycle. They are actively pursuing an underdog's strategy. Not that they aren't pursuing the 4 and 5-star guys too (they've thrown out more offers than even Rodriguez I think) but in accepting a bunch of offers from lower-regarded recruits they are taking away space that could (and probably WOULD) go to higher rated recruits. Given Michigan's trackrecord that's nearly a given.
I should say that Austin Davis is a decent comparison here, but he is an extremely unusual recruitment for Beilein over the last 5 plus years.
Me too. Any Harbaugh Stanford team would have beaten any Hoke Michigan team.
that is incorrect
When you say "any Hoke team" do you mean because his first two seasons were really Rodriguez teams?
Let's just say that a Stanford team that fully reflected Harbaugh's influence versus a Michigan team that fully reflected Hoke's influence would be an ugly result. Recruiting stars be damned.
Stars at this early point in the cycle, before these kids have played thier senior seasons, correlate as much to interest and offers as anything. Recruiting sevices tend to follow and evaluate kids with buzz first. I expect that Johnson's verbal will generate a similar increase in interest from other schools as Davis' verbal did with a bump in rating to follow.
If Harbaugh gets "Harbaugh at Stanford" results at Michigan - he will get fired.
Harbaugh at Stanford -
won only 58% of his games
1/2 his seasons were sub .500
Only won one bowl game
Only finished ranked in the top 25 once
No conference championships
Now - considering where Stanford was prior to Harbaugh, that was great for Stanford... but that won't fly at Michigan.
There's certainly data to suggest that high ranked recruits as a whole are better prospects than their low ranked counterparts
On the other hand, there's reason to think that low ranked recruits offered by top coaches like Harbaugh are also better than their low ranked brethren. Which has the stronger correlation? I'm inclined to go with the coaches at this point in the process. The rating services often shift their ratings to reflect offers and can change them up to LOI day. That certainly helps them look better when they brag about their reliability..
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Is to look at what other offers these kids have. I think that is a better indication on what level of player we are talking about. There are some three stars, that when you look at their offer list are impressive and probably should be four stars, and then there are three stars that when you look at their offer list they look like MAC level players.
So it comes down to who are you beating out for these players.
Let's take Terrell Lucas for example. He holds offers from:
- Bethune-Cookman
- Coastal Carolina
- Florida Atlantic
- Florida Int.
- Fordham
- Miami (OH)
- Middle Tenn St.
- Minnesota
- Monmouth
- Samford
- SE Missouri St
- Syracuse
- Tulane
So that would typically be a guy that a major power school would offer as a perfered walk on status or maybe a gray shirt. So offering that level of player seems to be a reach, because his offer list doesn't indicate major college player at this point in his development.