saveferris

April 29th, 2015 at 7:53 AM ^

They're starting him out of fries, next he'll be washing lettuce, and then he'll be on the register....and that's when the big bucks start rolling in.

Niels

April 29th, 2015 at 11:48 AM ^

There they go, every time I start talkin 'bout boxing, a white man got to pull Rocky Marciano out their ass. That's their one, that's their one. Rocky Marciano. Rocky Marciano. Let me tell you something once and for all. Rocky Marciano was good, but compared to Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano ain't shit.

allintime23

April 29th, 2015 at 7:54 AM ^

Unless you have a degree from MSU you can't be a fan of MSU or work at an east Lansing McDonald's. That's why they don't make michigan state gear that is sold at wal mart, if that makes sense.



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LSAClassOf2000

April 29th, 2015 at 8:27 AM ^

I will say that the words "drunk" and "beligerent" and the phrase "East Lansing McDonald's at 2 AM" were more or less all anyone needed to say for this story to make a painful amount of sense from start to finish. That being said, I am morbidly curious as to what sorts of charges get laid down if any, and strangely enough, if the dude who was knocked cold ever sets foot in that particular McDonald's again.

Everyone Murders

April 29th, 2015 at 8:43 AM ^

http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2009/08/msu_hockey_player_aj_sturges_r.html

There's no way this is Winston.  If you watch the video, you'll see that the punchee is facing the punchor when the punch is landed.

Winston is more of an attack-from-behind guy.  He's like a tiger that way - he prefers his prey to facing away when pouncing.  That's why it's always a good idea to wear a mask on the back of your head when you're strolling the streets of E. Lansing.

(You're welcome, GW!)

ijohnb

April 29th, 2015 at 9:44 AM ^

UM-Flint graduate, I just have one question.

Are they still excepting applications?

(Wrong spelling completely intentional for affect)

Bodogblog

April 29th, 2015 at 10:07 AM ^

Not sure about Winston, but the nice young lady behind the counter at our local Plum Market is an MSU grad.  My young son was wearing a green&white shirt, he's a terrible flirt, and she said "I like you because that's my school colors!"  This is last week, assuming class is still going on, she must be a graduate. 

I will confirm on our next visit, feeling sympathy and chuckling at the same time.  No elitist, but to spend all that money on a degree and end up at Plum Market... yeesh.  No matter which school you attend, young people, you need a plan to get paid after college. 

Humen

April 29th, 2015 at 10:36 AM ^

...like what? We'll have automatized even more unskilled jobs. Unless you're saying we should all be programming geniuses out of high school, hard to see what you mean



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ijohnb

April 29th, 2015 at 10:45 AM ^

that there is going to be a push toward entrepreanuership and personal innovation to generate income and sustenence that does not involve the incurrence of hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt at a very young age before entering a job market with fewer and fewer opportunitines to generate upper-middle class earning potential, even with a degree.  Unless there is a drastic reduction in the cost of college it will begin to make less and less sense to bright people with big ambition.

Bodogblog

April 29th, 2015 at 11:30 AM ^

Agree with you, but I think there will probably be some type of reckoning where universities still provide a valuable path going forward. 

But we've already decided with our kids that entrepeneurship will be the primary focus of their education.  I want K-12 schools that stress that in the curriculum, public or private.  If they don't, well find another school.  If no one has it, we'll send them to a private tutor.  Yes, a private tutor to teach them how to develop and run their own business.  It will be critical to their income level, though the humanities are also important to develop their personal views. 

EDIT: and I believe your timeframe is too short, it will be more like 20 years before the system is fully worked out that it looks substantially different than it does today, enough to affect the choices of most HS graduates. 

ijohnb

April 29th, 2015 at 3:37 PM ^

10 years maybe a little bit too fast, but I don't think it will be a whole lot longer than that.  A big part of the issue will be the inability of the "new middle class" parents to pay for college any longer.  With extremely expensive tuition, increased economic demands on middle class families with the increased cost of living, groceries, gas, and insufficient health coverage with outrageous deductibles and co-insurance in the absence of any signifcant increase in earning potential, the days of college being "part of the deal" to a kid raised in a typical american family are rapdily coming to an end.  I can only speak for myself, but I make pretty good money and am reasonably frugile and as of right now my sons are going to get a kiss on the cheek and a used car upon graduation from high-school. (Maybe a little more than that but not the whole ball of wax).

A large part of "the talk" that I am going to have to have with my kids before the "college years" is regarding the benefits and burdens of college, and that they better be comfortable spending a considerable portion of time on the Navient and Sallie Mae websites before they commit to anything. 

rainingmaize

April 29th, 2015 at 1:35 PM ^

But you sound disconnected from the realities of the current job market for recent college graduates. Unless you graduate with an in-demand major, it's very hard to find a job, never the less a quality one right out of graduation. According to Forbes, 44 percent of college grads are working in a job that does not require the degree that they hold. That's nearly half of all college graduates. Are you telling me that nearly half of every college graduate had never pursued internships or work studies? It's just a hard market, regardless of where you graduate from. That has to do partially with the fact that baby boomers just aren't retiring, jobs aren't being created fast enough to meet the increase of college graduates, and with rising college debt that needs to be paid off graduates are forced to take jobs they don't match their education. 

Bodogblog

April 30th, 2015 at 2:16 PM ^

I'm not offended, that's good information for me to know.  I may very well be disconnected, given I work in a large firm that hires college grads from around the country.  From my experience in that process, it seems like many of those grads have multiple options to consider.  I thought the job market had reasonably cleared up, given the drop in unemployment rate and generally positive economic climate.  

But I think my point still stands: you say above "unless you graduate with an in-demand major"; I'd say you better pick a major that's in demand.  I'm lucky that I enjoy my work, and everyone going to college should match their interests with their major so they can do the same, to the extent the market allows it.  Here comes the statement you've heard a million times from old white guys, but still true: if you're going to incur $100,000 getting a history degree that gets you a job making $28,000/year, you've made thinigs very difficult to begin your adult worklife.   No one's saying you have to go get a degree in something you hate, but no one's saying you have to leverage yourself to the tune of $100,000 for something you love either.  

A lot of degrees don't payout, anyone making the choice to pay for college needs to understand this.  If they want to go and get one of those degrees anyway, they need a plan to make that education spending pay off. 

rainingmaize

April 29th, 2015 at 1:35 PM ^

But you sound disconnected from the realities of the current job market for recent college graduates. Unless you graduate with an in-demand major, it's very hard to find a job, never the less a quality one right out of graduation. According to Forbes, 44 percent of college grads are working in a job that does not require the degree that they hold. That's nearly half of all college graduates. Are you telling me that nearly half of every college graduate had never pursued internships or work studies? It's just a hard market, regardless of where you graduate from. That has to do partially with the fact that baby boomers just aren't retiring, jobs aren't being created fast enough to meet the increase of college graduates, and with rising college debt that needs to be paid off graduates are forced to take jobs they don't match their education. 

WestSider

April 29th, 2015 at 10:20 AM ^

landed on his face. He could have been physically removed I suppose without a blow to the head, and the potential for serious injury falling on a hard surface face first. But we don't know what sort of perceived threat the guy was posing to the safety of the personnel and customers either. Spitting is assaultive, so maybe it was justified, I dunno...