Deflategate - NFL punishment is $25,000 fine to the Team
Tom Brady's morning went "very well" by some accounts.
This got me thinking about a report I saw on the World Wide Leader over the weekend. They showed the NFL rule for the range (in psi) for football inflation. Then they showed the following section which gave the punishment for violating the rule - $25,000 fine to the team.
It got me thinking about all the former QB's on TV saying " under inflating happens all the time, it's no big deal". Which I can understand that the QB would not think twice about getting an advantage (if there is one) at the risk of someone elses money.
If what I saw is true, I would think Tom and the Pats would be using this in their defense. Has anyone else heard of this fine? Or, do the Patriot's and Tom's fines fall under the "conduct detrimental..." area?
EDIT: Here is the segment from ESPN
http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2015/06/tom_brady_suspension_appeal_n…;
It's not like he's Barry Bonds. He's more like Derek Jeter.
Gotta take the over. I assume it will be a 2 game suspension
I don't think TB is going to take this shit from Roger or any other NFL'r trying to "save face"...and i think his legal defense team is going to shred the case. ZERO suspension or Brady seeks judicial intervention in Federal Court to block the league. I don't think the NFL wants that and Brady's got the balls (fully inflated, it seems) to do it.
I've always thought it was going to go to zero games suspended
The very fact that the NFL's official statement of Brady's guilt said things like "it was unlikely that their actions were done without your knowledge" led me to believe this one wasn't going to stand up to a decent team of lawyers
Whether RG likes it or not, Tom Brady is the face of the NFL. It is much easier to penalize someone who has a lesser of a stature than TB, but on the other hand RG wants to show who is in charge. Like many, I feel it will be cut in half to 2 games.
I read where Phillip Rivers had sticky substance on his footballs and (after review) was not fined. Precedence means a lot.
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I, like some others, don't think a reduction to two games is enough for Brady. Goodell needs to reduce this to a slap on the wrist fine or I think and hope Brady goes after this fucking moron with the rage and passion of a thousand screaming Brazillian women.
I think that this is going to get thrown out. Brady is going to look to defend his reputation and his standing as one of the best QBs in NFL history, and is not going to sit by while a fabricated smear campaign by Goodell tarnishes his legacy.
If Brady truly didn't instruct the balls to be under inflated and the Washington Post story regarding the "science" behind the Wells report is close to accurate, there is zero downside for Brady to press this issue to the point it ends up in a court of law.
I doubt that the NFL would be very interested in allowing Brady's legal team to review the email traffic on this issue.
I said this earlier and I'll say it again: if Brady is punished, he should sue for at least $200 million for damage to his brand. Pseudo-science should not be a standard of guilt.
were completley vacated. He doesn't need the money and retirement's going to happen someday soon anyway. Accepting any punishment tarnishes his legacy and image beyond what the NFL has already done. Put the NFL and Goodell on the defensive. This is assuming he has legal advice that supports his position, but their position looks untenable.
Bill Nye, noted science expert, said there's "no way" that the footballs could deflate on their own without the Patriots cheating!
Jackie Chiles: You can't let the defendant have control of the key piece of evidence.
Yeah, not a fan of the mouse, but here is a snippet from ESPN:
"Patriots owner Bob Kraft, who is on a trip to Israel with a group of Pro Football Hall of Famers, sent a sworn affidavit backing Brady. One source said the affidavit was very compelling, and had 'almost a holy feel to it'."
As a New Englander by birth, Michigander by choice (and Californian by circumatance), I can completely understand the hyperbole.
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It is known now that deflating is a bit of a culture in the NFL. Very reasonable to believe Brady had at least some knowledge and participated in the practice for that competitive edge. I mean he is older and making it to the Superbowl is never a given. He should just man up and take his medicine whatever it is, and move on.
Bullshit. Why should Tom Brady bend over because the NFL let this whole thing conflagrate into a "scandal"? The Patriots crushed the Colts the 2nd half with properly inflated balls. There is nothing to see here, except media and fans who hate the Pats, hate Bill Belichick, and hate Tom Brady and want their pound of flesh any way they can have it.
Roger Goodell could've squashed this whole thing in a day by admitting that while the league has rules about the inflation pressure of their game balls, they don't do a good job of strictly enforcing it and will take measures to do so in the future. Period. The End. NFL winds up with a bit of egg on their face, but the whole thing dies on the vine. But, Goodell is a shitty leader and has botched so many other PR disasters, now he's painted himself into a corner trying to give the impression that he's in charge any way he can.
I once thought that there would never be a professional sports league commissioner worse than Gary Bettman, but Goodell has him smoked.
Based on the best scientific analysis the balls, all of them colt's and partiot's, were properly inflated. If that analysis is correct, and we have no basis to believe it is not, then there was no violation. Therefore there was nothing to "participate in" nor to have "knowledge of".
As much as it may fly in the face of the narrative orchestrated by Goodell, Wells, and the NFL, it now appears that it is far more probable than not probable that there was no violation.
All of Brady's suspensions should go away. The penalties assessed the team should be removed. Goodell, Wells, and the NFL should appolgize and change the process used to review such possible violations so that the results are analyzed by multiple independent experts.
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I may be a Bills fan, but I think this is the silliest controversy in the history of the NFL. Bill Nye to the contrary; the footballs were within the bell curve of inflation given changes in temperature from the locker room to the field and back.This also does not deal with what happens to balls when 300 pound players are landing on them. I would feel better about this whole tempest in a teapot if we had a consistent enforcement of the rule so that there is a baseline of field tested data. This has nothing to do with the integrity of the game and everything to do with ESPN keeping ratings during a dry period of football news.
The window for acceptable PSI ranges is 1 PSI, from 12.5 to 13.5, but the two gauges they use can give a variance of up to 0.5 PSI for the same ball. That tells me that there's really no functional difference between one ball and another, pressure wise.
If you don't think there's a competitive advantage to using one over the other, then this becomes an equipment mismanagement issue, like wearing the wrong colored cleats, and that's not "cheating". That's not worth a four game suspension, million dollar fine, and loss of draft picks.
This is one of the better arguments I've seen....