BlueCube

May 11th, 2015 at 4:38 PM ^

Nearly everyone is speculating he is going to be suspended whether it's deserved or not.

I also expect Brady to fight back hard and I think the NFL is going to end up looking like fools again.

WolverineInCbus

May 11th, 2015 at 4:43 PM ^

Then suspend all the other quarterbacks that admitted to doing the same thing. This is so freaking stupid. Aaron Rodgers admitted he inflates the balls more than they're supposed to be, so why isn't he getting suspended? Screw the NFL



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ghost

May 11th, 2015 at 5:32 PM ^

He's going to be suspended for both.  When you play in the NFL you cannot just decide you will not cooperate with an investigation.  People can go on about who he doesn't legally half to and that's true.  But that does not mean the NFL cannot suspend him for his refusal to do so.

1464

May 11th, 2015 at 5:44 PM ^

I actually agree with your point, but using "half to" doesn't really do it justice.

...and holy shit the Patriots get nailed.  Brady with a 4 game suspension.  Pats fined $1mil and forfeit two draft picks next year, one a first rounder...

DealerCamel

May 11th, 2015 at 4:47 PM ^

Even if you think Brady did anything wrong - and damn if there's not a whole argument to be made against that - the listed punishment in the rulebook for a deflated ball is something like $25,000 or so.  Why in the hell would you suspend someone for something like this?

ghost

May 11th, 2015 at 5:35 PM ^

That is not the listed punishment in the rule book.  Those who say that it is are lying. 

Mike Florio "At one point, in an obvious effort to downplay the violation, Yee said that the penalty for tampering with footballs is only a fine of $25,000.  And that’s just false."  "The key words are “including but not limited to.” That’s a very common phrase that appears in thousands of statutes and rules and regulations. It means that the punishment can be greater than a $25,000 fine. And Yee, a graduate of the University of Virginia School of Law, surely knows that.

jonvalk

May 12th, 2015 at 1:29 AM ^

Boy, you really hate the Patriots, don't you? There are documented cases of violations similar to this one garnering a paltry 20k fine for the team with zero suspensions. This is a power-play/smoke-screen by the NFL, plain and simple. You're delusional if you think there's any precedent for these absurd penalties. And if you are for the penalties, do you not have to suspend Rogers as well, for his documented comments about over-inflating balls above the limit and hoping a ref doesn't catch it? Or does this only apply to Tom Brady and the Patriots because the rest of the league got pissed that Beast Mode didn't get the ball?



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Blerg

May 11th, 2015 at 4:51 PM ^

I really really dislike the Pats, but a part of me is going to be rooting for them next year because this whole this is so stupid



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Moe

May 11th, 2015 at 4:57 PM ^

Continues to embarass itself.  I'm sure they will announce a suspension, and the NFLPA and Brady will sue because it hasn't been proven that he did anything wrong.  He won't miss a down.

jblaze

May 11th, 2015 at 5:03 PM ^

but it's best for the NFL. They want Brady to play, because he's a star and need to look like they are serious, by suspending him when they know he'll be reinstated.

ghost

May 11th, 2015 at 5:38 PM ^

You can hope that, but no one outside of NE actually believes that.  He broke a rule and than refused to cooperate with the investigation.  In the NFL that is grounds for suspension.  Guys get suspended for pot and they haven't sued and won that fight yet.  Why on earth would Brady win a lawsuit about something that effects the game and is specifcally against the rules?  The answer is he won't.

ghost

May 11th, 2015 at 5:48 PM ^

The standard is more likely than not.  This is not criminal court.  There is a difference.  The you can't prove I 100% did it argument does not fly in the NFL or civil court.

ats

May 11th, 2015 at 6:46 PM ^

The standard is a bit of bumpkiss cause its not more likely than not, its whatever the investigator wants to decide regardless of what evidence does or does not exist.  You can't compare it to a court of law, because in a court of law, the defendant actually gets to make a case.

kgh10

May 11th, 2015 at 5:44 PM ^

How did he not cooperate? He didn't give his cell phone to some asshole with an axe to grind? There is no actual proof against him. If you fail a drug test, that's pretty cut and dry. This case had absolutely no solid evidence he asked to have the balls deflated below legal limits. Why is this so hard to understand?

ghost

May 11th, 2015 at 5:50 PM ^

Well the NFL and all the legal people who have commented disagree.  In past investigations including Ray Rice people handed over cell phones.  You can disagree with whether they should have to, but you can not disagree with the fact that this is standard practice in the NFL.  

Ownblue

May 11th, 2015 at 4:56 PM ^

Unlikely to stay up for more than 24 hours.

They should definitely suspend him from all pre-season games next year. That would prove that they're not going to put up with these kinds of serious shenanigans. The NFL is serious!

remdog

May 11th, 2015 at 4:56 PM ^

would be totally wrong.  The NFL has NEVER enforced this rule.  It has NEVER checked football pressures during games.  It has no idea who has been violating the rules and who hasn't.  Other prominent QB's even admit to under and over inflating footballs.  And then there's the uncertain impact of the environment/temperatures.  And then there's the ample evidence that it didn't even impact play - the Patriots played even better when the footballs were inflated within specified limits.  And then there's the inconvenient fact that several Colts balls were underinflated when measured by one gauge.

Rather than conducting an insane investigation/witch hunt, the NFL should have simply admitted its incompetence in monitoring football pressures and changed its practices.  Now it should apologize to Brady and the Patriots for smearing them.

But I'm not holding my breath.  The NFL, as it showed in the Ray Rice incident, is completely incompetent and lacking any integrity.

JamieH

May 11th, 2015 at 5:30 PM ^

They should have immediately announced a change in the procedures for handling footballs on gameday and maybe hit Brady with some sort of moderate equipment violation level fine.  To drag the whole thing out and make it seem as if the entire 2014 playoffs were tainted has been utterly ridiculous and IMO has been another Goddell PR disaster.  The man is a PR idiot. 

champswest

May 11th, 2015 at 5:10 PM ^

ball inflation, then they need to change the whole procedure for handling game balls. Why let each team provide and use their own balls? Makes no sense. Simple soultion: Make both teams play with the same game ball. No advantage to either team.

South TX MFan

May 11th, 2015 at 5:19 PM ^

I hate the Pats but this is getting ridiculous. There were two different gauges. The official in charge of checking the footballs said to his "best recollection" he used the gauge that showed the balls were in spec. The other gauge showed the balls to be low. The report was simply trying to find the road that led to the conclusion that they came up with before the "investigation" even started.



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BlueCube

May 11th, 2015 at 7:13 PM ^

game to check the footballs? They were warned they would be under inflated. They were so concerned with the integrity of the game that they let them play a half of football with this huge advantage.

They could have easily warned them that they would be checking balls. It was more of a gotcha thing againt Belichick.

I thought New England should have brought this up before. The NFL is pathetic.

Don

May 11th, 2015 at 9:26 PM ^

If he's suspended for, say, three games, that's three less games he has to play during the early part of the long NFL season. At 37 he's no spring chicken, and by now the only goals he has to play for are post-season goals. He's 16,000 yards behind Peyton Manning in career yardage and 18,000 behind the leader Favre, and to top them he'd have to have six more seasons of over 3000 yards to even have any hope. And Drew Brees has already passed Brady in total yardage anyhow, so he'd be chasing him too. I doubt if Brady gives a shit about that stuff anyhow; the four guys ahead of him have won a total of three Super Bowls, and he already has four.

So, take some time off in the early part of the season and it will pay dividends at the end.

jonvalk

May 12th, 2015 at 1:14 AM ^

Except he didn't get caught. Buried in all of the footnotes of the media frenzy today is that the Wells Report states that 3/4 of the Colts' balls measures were registering under the 12.5 PSI limit and that one of the gauges was consistently giving a different reading. This is pure PR bullshit. A smokescreen to cover up all of the pathetic stories of woman/child-beaters and drug-addicts peppering the league. It all smells of something rotten going on. Screw Roger Goodell.



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