Baloo

November 6th, 2014 at 7:15 PM ^

What I don't understand is the refusal to reconsider.  These recruits supposedly fell in love with the school and the program, yet they aren't even willing to entertain the possibility that the new coach will be great?  I don't get it.

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alum96

November 6th, 2014 at 8:24 PM ^

I kind of get what he is trying to say although not perfect.  Neither is mine.  Let's say you give your 2 week notice, and then with 3 days left they come baack to you with an offer to stay with a pay raise (new coach) or whatever parallel.  You have already mentally checked out and are focused on the future so its difficult to even consider, even if said pay raise is a big positive.

That is sort of how i see it - by the time we hear this official "announcement" these kids have been mulling it for weeks if not months at this point.  There has been nothing positive out of UM football this entire year - all the wins have come against junk teams.  The losses have been in many cases non competitive.  So most of these guys have been wavering for a long time (thinking about the job move) and have mentally checked out of the job for weeks now IMO.

So not only have we (UM with a new coach) not offered them a pay raise... that is so far in the future while MULTIPLE companies are coming at them with lavish perks and salary.  And they got to visit those shiny companies in the past weeks and their future bosses have been visiting and calling them and texting them etc daily.

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tolmichfan

November 6th, 2014 at 9:59 PM ^

Maybe they don't want to play for Harbaugh. I have herd he is a dick. Or maybe they have been told Hoke is going to get one more year and they don't have faith he will win. Or they don't want to play in front of 110000 booing fans when they have a bad game. Or they know a coaching change is coming and they don't like the uncertainty of not knowing who the coach is.

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bj dickey

November 6th, 2014 at 8:53 PM ^

They say that so as to indicate to other schools that if they accept an offer they won't be jumping ship, for instance, when we hire harbaugh or stoops. Of course, that statement means nothing. Just as a subsequent verbal commitment means nothing until signing day. There will be a number of these kids that do reconsider, assuming that they we still want them.

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MeanJoe07

November 6th, 2014 at 7:13 PM ^

Kirkland the Michigan football player is a big fan of my stuff and I have been verified by Alibaba and Lauren to see some people don't understand completely

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LSAClassOf2000

November 6th, 2014 at 7:35 PM ^

The Rhonda Jones / incoherent babble routine is starting to wear thin, just so you know. If you want to maintain a future on this blog, please revert to more cogent posts. I don't want to seem rude, of course, but we've already gotten some complaints about the act, so if you can refrain from these posts, that would be appreciated immensely. 

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gustave ferbert

November 6th, 2014 at 10:24 PM ^

I pulled up Harbaugh's classes at Stanford.  Except for Luck (who was a 4 star on rivals) they were mostly 2 and 3 stars. . . The following year he did better landing more 4 stars. 

But Toby Gerhart was a 3 star. . .

 

He can develop the talent.  Clearly. 

 

 

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Reader71

November 7th, 2014 at 1:43 PM ^

There seems to be a built-in assumption that ALL 3* are worse than ALL 4*. That is just not the case. Some guys are rated too high and others too low. That's why a team of all 3* wont usually be very good, but some guys will still look better than their rankings. And it wont be all development, because everyone on that team is getting the same coaching. Development is huge. But so is talent evaluation, like getting the 3* that others missed out on. Like Toby Gerhart. Or Devin Funchess, Jake Ryan, Frank Clark.

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bronxblue

November 6th, 2014 at 7:39 PM ^

Wish him luck.  

One question I've always had:  when a kid decommits and says he wouldn't reconsider that school, what was he committing to before?  I mean, you'd think the head coach but technically Hoke isn't gone, and there is a world in which he comes back.  The school hasn't changed, and only in Dave Brandon's pizza-addled dreams would this be in response to his firing.  So I honestly wonder what the reason was for his initial commitment, unless "not winning" is the criteria in which case, haven't you been watching the past couple of years?

Anyway, this class never mattered in the overall scheme of things.  UM will be fine regardless.

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TrueLT

November 6th, 2014 at 7:44 PM ^

Dele Harding is making this one slightly more tolerable to deal with but still I had really high hopes for Kirkland, does anybody know if a school only had these guys as their recruiting class where they'd rank out? 

 

ESPN300 decommits for Michigan in '15:

Darrin Kirkland, Damien Harris, George Campbell, Garrett Taylor, Shaun Crawford, Darian Roseboro

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chatster

November 6th, 2014 at 11:36 PM ^

On Scout:

George Campbell:  4-star WR - 7th ranked WR (Florida State)
Darian Roseboro:  4-star DT - 14th ranked DT (NC State)
Shaun Crawford:  4-star CB - 19th ranked CB (Notre Dame)
Damien Harris:  4-star RB - 5th ranked RB (Uncommitted)
Darrin Kirkland:  4-star MLB - 6th ranked MLB (Uncommitted)
Garrett Taylor:  4-star CB - 30th ranked CB (Uncommitted)

 

Alabama has the highest average ranks for any 2015 class at 3.90, so that "class" would have the highest average star ranking in the nation. The second-highest average ranked class is Michigan at 3.88, though Michigan, with the fewest commitments (8) among the top 75 ranked classes has the 33rd-ranked class. Florida and Stanford, with nine, are the only other schools ranked in the top 75 with fewer than ten commitments.

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