Court ruling in favor of Jerry Sandusky

Submitted by The Mad Hatter on

A Pennsylvania Court has ruled that Sandusky is entitled to his state employee pension.  The pension, which was revoked upon his conviction in 2012, amounts to $58,800 per year.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/13/455894142/court-resores-jerry-sanduskys-penn-state-pension

I'm not an MGoLawyer, but this makes me angry.  

 

PopeLando

November 13th, 2015 at 3:40 PM ^

A court order in several scenarios can garnish a pension. Also, there are regulations around a criminal conviction. But Pennsylvania is not Michigan. If his pension was from Michigan, I doubt he'd be receiving it. I mean, it's not like Sandusky gets to use or enjoy his retirement income...

Roc Blue in the Lou

November 14th, 2015 at 12:16 AM ^

The State will likely get first dibs, if PA has reimbursement statutes like most states for incarceration fees.  Otherwise, unlike SSI or public assistance benes, once in the bank accout these funds are fair game to judgment creditors such as the victims of his crimes who now have significant judgments against him.  Suffice it to say, he'll never see or spend a dime.

LJ

November 13th, 2015 at 3:20 PM ^

I may get negged to oblivion for this, but sometimes it seems a little bit unfair the way fans equate hatred of Sandusky and the JoePa regime to hatred of Penn State.  The University fired the guy, and, at least to my understanding, has tried to wipe his record from the unversity by eliminating everyone associated with the scandal.  The AD was fired and the president resigned.

Obviously, that group of people did some terrible,  terrible things.  I don't see why that makes Penn State some kind of bad institution.  Imagine if something like this happened at Michigan.  I would be shocked, appalled, and disgusted.  But it wouldn't make Michigan a bad institution, and I would keep rooting for Michigan because Michigan is more than one set of coaches or administrators.  So is Penn State.

NittanyFan

November 13th, 2015 at 4:12 PM ^

But he had a Grantland article on James Franklin a month ago where he NAILED the classification of the "Paterno Loyalists" ------ "relentlessly vocal."

Seriously: THEY.  NEVER.  SHUT.  UP.  

From my experience, being fairly close to things as a PSU alum: it has honestly become an obsession for a group of PSU folk.  Probably only ~ 10% of PSU folk from my anecdotal experience.  But Lord knows, they talk about it 100% of the time.  (especially on one PSU message board in particular)

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-college-football-penn-state-jame…

Stu Daco

November 13th, 2015 at 3:29 PM ^

Literally thousands of people marched in protest when Paterno was fired. Hell, a Pennsylvania state senator demanded that the statue be put back up.  I don't know the percentage, but a huge number of people supported Paterno and continue to believe that PSU was treated unfairly.

Steve in PA

November 13th, 2015 at 8:20 PM ^

If you are referring to the "riot" that happened downtown it was just something to do.  A few kids my son knows were talking about it and everyone was just going downtown to see what was happening.  Most of them probably didn't give 2 shits about Paterno being fired.

Like song says, "Nothing draws a crowd like a crowd"

I still think the fanbase is quite delusional though.  I'm an alum and never bought into the cult of Paterno but I wanted to go to Michigan.

Rabbit21

November 13th, 2015 at 3:25 PM ^

I think it more has to do with how Penn. St. fans have gone to the mat to defend Paterno when it seems very likely he, at the very least, employed a see no evil approach to the Sandusky thing.  Makes the whole place seem kind of scuzzy.

All that said, I agree that people seem to want continued wearing of hair shirts and rending of garments when it might be best to let everyone move on.

Roc Blue in the Lou

November 14th, 2015 at 12:29 AM ^

I know we live in glass houses...but, at least at UM when a certain AD abused his position and tarnished long-standing respect and tradition, it was the student body, en mass, that revolted and demanded his removal.  I get that he held no historical significance to our program, but he threatened what most saw as the "best" of our university's character and tradition.  Despite his wins on the field, the alum/students at PaU would do well to demand that any coach, JoPa included, who stained those colors would, at the very least, be shamed.  Instead, with vociferous pride, this group hoists the banner--and win total--of the man who LEAST represented what should have been well and good about their school and community.  In fact, diminishing not only the wins and loses, but the general reputation of decades (centuries) of highly regarded graduates.  Thankfully, we only had a noodle to remind of our debacle.

Everyone Murders

November 13th, 2015 at 3:29 PM ^

Speaking only for myself, although many others likely agree, I do blame Penn State in large part for the rape of many children over time.  The problem is that, at high levels, the administration turned a blind eye to what had happened with Sandusky.  And when they forced Sandusky out, the school left him the keys to the freakin' lockeroom!  It was - in many ways - like when OSU's president Gee said that "Tressell might fire me" which isn't funny.  It tells you that your priorities are fucked up.

Further PSU hate comes from the fact that many of their trustees and other folks are trying to whitewash the Sandusky scandal, rather than own it, all in the name of propping up the legend of Joe Paterno.  To the extent that this goes on, my attitude is that Penn State can FOAD.

For all of that, I feel bad for PSU students, athletes, faculty, and fans who are mortified by what went on at their school.  If they aren't apologists, I not only don't despise them, but I feel they are victims too (on a vastly lesser scale).

Year of Revenge II

November 13th, 2015 at 10:45 PM ^

Paterno and PSU administrators covered up Sandusky's actviites when they MUST have known full well about them.  The people who covered up the scandal seemed to be be concerned with the damage it could do to Penn State and the football program than they were with the damage done to the children.  

In fact, their loyalty to the football program and Sandusky enabled Sandusky to continue perpetrating his crimes against children.  An irrationally large and vocal percentage of the fanbase cannot or will not face that fact.

When you can turn a blind eye to Sandusky and feel he was "punished enough" by not being able to become the head coach to ensure he did not futher stain the program and the institution, you are doing the very thing you sought to prevent.  

The university, the entire fan base, the people of Pennsylvania (who ultimately run the public school) may not have been directly responsible, but it happened on their watch, and they are going to have to shoulder that stain for a while, a good long while, and perhaps they should.  No football program was, or is, worth that bullshit.  

I do not feel their fans should not root for them, or have pride in their unversity and the good things it did, and still does, but those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and I as a fan would want to ensure everybody associated with my program fully understood that many things in life are more important than football, and that the safety of children is at or near the top of that list.  

When outsiders sense the PSU community represents that, the stain will dissapate.  Until then, it is difficult not to portray the place with a broad brush.  

Blue4U

November 13th, 2015 at 3:24 PM ^

My brother retired to Penn and I visit him and his family often.  Having any type of common sense discussions with those Penn State/Paterno supporters is mind numbing.  Must be nice living in denial and not accepting reality for what is it.

Blue4U

November 13th, 2015 at 7:23 PM ^

It was a blanket statement about those in the state of Pennsylvania and those that support Penn State/Paterno.  For some reason, they all believe Penn State and Paterno were the victims.  Plus, lets not kid ourselves here, does anyone really believe that Sandusky wasn't doing this on campus during his tenure as coach.  That was my point.

RGard

November 13th, 2015 at 5:25 PM ^

The 26 victims who got payments from Penn State agreed not to sue anybody (that includes Paterno, Sandusky, Spanier, Schultz and Curley among others) as a condition of receiving the settlement.

There are 1 or 2 victims who have not signed or received money from Penn State.  They could sue Sandusky, but that wouldn't approach a large and just compensation that Penn State could provide.  So I think Sandusky won't be sued.

74polSKA

November 13th, 2015 at 3:25 PM ^

I can't believe that's all his pension is worth. Wasn't he a career assistant there? In Ohio, someone his age would get 62% of the average of his top 3 years salary with 30 years service. Either way, I hope they leave his wife enough to survive on and give the rest to the victims.