Cole Bajema pronunciation
What's up all, happy Thursday!
As there is a lot of "what does basketball look like going forward?" talk happening now (and relative to the chatter on today's round table), thought I would share some light info.
Was in Bellingham, WA over the New Years holiday and I'm pretty close with one of Cole's athletic trainers and his circle of friends.... I was calling Cole by what his last name shows (Ba jee ma), I was corrected by the group and they said its pronounced (Bi ma), which was surprising to me.
Some other notes that I got...work ethic is insane and is obsessed with perfecting his game. Has all the tools to become a big time player, but as I'm sure you guys/gals can see, Camp Sanderson will be vital for him.
I'm def not saying he will be Klay Thompson but his makeup and current profile have a lot of similarities to where Klay was ...could be a star for Michigan.
Anyway, that's all I got,
It's pronounced san-dee-AH-go, and it means "a whale's vagina"...
I always wondered what the kid's show Where In the World is Carmen Sandiego
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0106172/
... was all about. Thanks to you, Faux Mo, we now know.
There's no way that's correct
Agree to disagree
So is that bee ma or bye ma?
Apparently its Bye ma
No, it's buy-ma.
No, it's By-Ma.
I thought it was By-Muh.
You've confused me. So Bajema is pronounced as Bee-Mah? As in the whole middle part of his name is silent?
Apparently just two syllables? Surprised me too.
April 11th, 2019 at 11:48 PM ^
No. First part is Bi like bicycle.
For some reason in my head, I kept pronouncing it like Ba-ha-ma
Claro que si
So making assumptions here, but based on the look of the name and that he is from Lynden, WA he is probably of Dutch descent and the 'j' would be pronounced like a 'y'. Maybe Bye- ema?
yes.
Sure and every Hungarian-origin Nagy would be pronounced Nazhy but we are in America and we take price in badgering families in to forgetting they ever had any other pronunciation of their names than what an American reading it for the first time will think.
Mike Krzyzewski would like a word with you.
This has to be it. OP is a failure.
He pronounces it Badge-e-ma. His family isn't from Lynden. Lynden Bajemas pronounce it Bye-ma.
I worked with a guy with the last name Bajema. He pronounced it BAY-jim-uh.
As a member of the dutch community with friends from lynden, I can confirm it's pronounced "Buy-uh-ma". Also, no one will ever pronounce my last name or his last name correctly first try. I could definitely see announcers pronouncing the J and no one ever correcting them.
Pronouncing Dutch names is like knowing the password to the speakeasy. Only club members have a chance.
Damn skippy.
Yo.
I've got a lifetime membership to the Dutch club, and not a single one of you could pronounce my last name on the first try.
There are tons of Bajemas here in West Michigan, and they all pronounce it semi-phonetically as BADGE-uh-muh
If these folks call it "BY-muh" or whatever is being reported here, it's probably close to the orginal Dutch pronunciation, which I am guessing was more like BY-uh-muh.
My own last name is not pronounced very close to original Dutch (hint: it appears in Ocean's Twelve), but most people don't even get the Americanized version right.
Yeah, it's brave of them to try to keep the Dutch pronunciation (EDIT: the y pronunciation of the j) alive here stateside. As you mentioned, most others anglicize it.
The J isn't exactly silent; it's just pronounced like a Y in Dutch (and many other European languages).
You are correct. I lived in Holland for a couple years and informally picked up the language and in my english speaking brain I thought of the j after a vowel having the affect of making the vowel sound "long".
For instance, vrijdag is Friday, and you just say the ij combo as a long "i" (eye, which in my mind already included the y sound). It's funny that English for some reason diverged on the germanic language tree and dropped the j but requires us to remember how to pronounce vowels in different ways for each word. English: so difficult!
But yes, if you just think of it as a y all the time, more bases are covered and that is the easier more correct way to think of it. When used after a consonant, it is pronounced as y as a standalone letter.
And now I've rambled on about a bunch of nonsense but I guess a thread about pronunciation of some last night invited that.
April 12th, 2019 at 12:26 PM ^
English diverged because it went through the wringer of being subordinate to French for a few centuries after William the Conqueror, turning it into the Germanic/Romance mutt we know and love.
Good info. Interesting.
BADGE-uh-muh is how the folks I grew up with pronounced it.
I knew there had to be one more Geert Vander Kuyvenhoevensema in the world!!
That last name is a lot easier than anything with a g or j in it though!
April 11th, 2019 at 10:54 PM ^
@flying dutch, the only dutch name i could find on the ocean 12's wiki page was van der woude and i literally hung out with a vanderwoude tonight. i was hoping for a bigger challenge to pronounce ;)
April 11th, 2019 at 10:58 PM ^
So true. I've been saying it "BADGE-uh-muh" based on WMich people I knew. (Though I hard Cole's family is from WMich at some point in the not too distant past.)
I would be in the "BYE-uh-muh" camp if they go with J is Y thing.
This reminds me of the former Sparty player Matt Steigenga. Growing up he was always (as most people pronounced it in WMich) "STEG-eng-uh." When he went to State though, I remember hearing Blaha always say it "ste-GENG-ah." It was hilarious to me.
Yeah that Steigenga thing annoyed the crap out of me. No one got it right after he left SCHS.
For some reason, I was really hoping it rhymed with "Pajama." His dunks could be called "Bajama Slamma Jammas."
It’s Funky Cole.
I still haz confuse
I went to grade school with some Bajema's in West Michigan a long time ago. They pronounced the last name (Ba- jim- a). Kind of how it looks.
Verified with Dutchness
I think UMHoops mentioned somewhere that it's pronounced "badger-ma"
I pronounced it in my head as ba-hey-ma. I thought the J would make that sound, little did i know it’s just a quiet little consonant.
Spanglish, nice.
Dutch and know some Bajemas. It's BAY-juh-muh.
Jesus... 10 different people saying it's Dutch and definitely pronounced 11 different ways.
J sounds like Y in Dutch. The BADGE-uh-ma pronunciation would be heavily, heavily Anglicized.
Like Chiptole= chip-O-tel level Anglicization.
The 10 different people are not Netherlands Dutch, they're probably American/West MI Dutch. Anyone suggesting the J makes an english J sound is talking about an anglicized version and not how it is pronounced in Netherlands Dutch.
How a family anglicizes the pronunciation of their name is up to them and could be done a lot of different ways. Seems like the consensus is that most families here pronounce it BADGE-uh-muh, with a slight variation of a long a: BAY-juh-muh. Key being that they're pronouncing the j like an english speaker would assume it to be pronounced.
Sounds like Cole's family may be pronouncing the j more like the Netherlands Dutch pronunciation which is to pronounce it like a y (although, they're oddly dropping the middle consonant if the OP is correct about their pronunciation).
Thanks to all the Dutch homies out there.... sounds like it is BAY-juh-muh
Bless you
Man, I thought he would be "Phi Slamma Bajamma"