Catholic 7 to keep Big East name, add Xavier and Butler

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February 28th, 2013 at 8:27 PM
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Catholic 7 to keep Big East name, add Xavier and Butler

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9000502/catholic-7-schools-keep-big-east-name-new-league-next-season-according-sources

Headline says it all.  Or most.  Creighton is also "expected" to join, and Dayton and St. Louis in the future.  That would make them the Catholic 11 Plus Butler, so it's probably for the best they get to keep the traditional Big East name.  Getting to start the league this fall might also move Notre Dame to the ACC this fall as well.

I guess that just leaves the question of what to call the southern-oriented conference that was once the Big East.  Big South is already taken.  If it were up to me, the Phoenix Conference would be pretty cool.

 

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February 28th, 2013 at 8:29 PM | Great moves. Why no love for (Score:4 Normal)
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Great moves. Why no love for U of Detroit?

February 28th, 2013 at 8:50 PM | As cool as that would be, U (Score:2)
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As cool as that would be, U of Detroit isn't on par with those other programs in terms of basketball, and far behind them in other sports.  Just as a name they aren't as relevent as any school in that group.

February 28th, 2013 at 8:36 PM | I'm still kind of confused. (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm still kind of confused. So what happens to the current and future (houston, SMU etc.) members of the current Big East? Does their name become the "Land of the Misfit Toys"?

And they should have the word Catholic in their conference name. 

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February 28th, 2013 at 9:02 PM | Probably Conference USA (Score:2)
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Probably Conference USA

March 1st, 2013 at 5:26 PM | Maybe (Score:3 Normal)
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they'll make the T in east a Catholic crucifix as a part of their logo?

not sarcasm but serious.

Is there an NCAA regulation about religious iconography in logos?

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February 28th, 2013 at 8:35 PM | The Big X or the ATW (any (Score:2)
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The Big X or the ATW (any team willing).

It's all John Navarre's fault.

 

February 28th, 2013 at 8:37 PM | Nice hoops conference (Score:2)
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That's a nice hoops conference.  

February 28th, 2013 at 8:47 PM | I am hearing UofD don't have (Score:1 Normal)
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I am hearing UofD don't have the resources to compete in the new leaugue.   They fear they will not be able to pay the coaching salry that the other schools pay.

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 What you gonna do when hokemania RUNS wild over you?

 

February 28th, 2013 at 8:56 PM | Too bad for UofD. There will (Score:3 Normal)
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Too bad for UofD. There will always be a soft spot in my heart for Livernois and Six Mile.

 


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February 28th, 2013 at 9:52 PM | I find that hard to believe (Score:2)
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I find that hard to believe because it's so backwards.  I mean, first off, McCallum seems like a pretty good coach (although it helps when you have a son who's got NBA potential.)  Second, they'd obviously get a lot of new resources from the new conference, which they could certainly use on coaches.  Third, this is a school that's fully funding an almost brand-new lacrosse team, so they aren't necessarily hurting.

I think the main thing is just not having the name recognition.  It doesn't help either that there's an interim AD right now.

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February 28th, 2013 at 9:58 PM | I agree with most of that, (Score:2)
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I agree with most of that, but compare Detroit to the teams they've invited or are considering - do they have the success/facilities/cache that Butler/Xavier/Dayton/SLU/Creighton?  Probably SLU, but that's about it.  I think there are probably other A10 schools that have more appeal than Detroit as well (St. Joe's, VCU).

February 28th, 2013 at 10:06 PM | I think we're arguing (Score:2)
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I think we're arguing basically the same thing.  I'm arguing against what sounded to me like the idea that UDM wouldn't want to be in the new Big East.  Even if they find that door shut, I really think they should angle for opportunities.  I hear the A-10 is set to lose a bunch of schools.  Even without facilities and cachet, they do have one thing to offer: a big-ass TV market.

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February 28th, 2013 at 10:09 PM | Yeah, I think they should (Score:2)
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Yeah, I think they should want to be in the new Big East (though I think they'll fall just short) but that the A10 should look to UD to replace their missing pieces.

March 1st, 2013 at 12:37 PM | I would think Detroit... (Score:1)
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...would be a possibility should the Big East do any future expansion.  Detroit, for all of its problems, is still a pretty big market for both recruiting and fan interest. 

With a little bit of strategic planning by both parties, a few years down the road it could be a great idea.

February 28th, 2013 at 8:53 PM | Rather Competitive Indeed... (Score:4 Normal)
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Not a bad lineup at all really. Including Xavier and Butler, here is what the overall standings would look like if it existed right now:

 



TEAM W L
Georgetown 22 4
Butler 22 6
Marquette 20 7
Villanova 18 11
St. John's 16 11
Xavier 16 11
Providence 15 12
Seton Hall 14 15
DePaul 11 17

The soon-to-be "old Big East" could, for football purposes, always become "The Other Mid-Major" or "Rather Big But Not Completely East"

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February 28th, 2013 at 8:53 PM | If they add one lacrosse team (Score:2)
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If they add one lacrosse team (or have a team add lacrosse) they could be a lacrosse conference.  And a pretty solid one.

February 28th, 2013 at 9:02 PM | Do Butler and xavier have a (Score:0)
February 28th, 2013 at 9:04 PM | don"t anwer just looked it (Score:1 Normal)
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don"t anwer just looked it up.

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 What you gonna do when hokemania RUNS wild over you?

 

February 28th, 2013 at 9:23 PM | This (Score:1)
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should really become an exciting conference to follow... ACC should be good in a couple of years too with their additions

2013 will be the year.

February 28th, 2013 at 9:31 PM | So, conference USA pretty (Score:1)
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So, conference USA pretty much hijacked the big east?

The state pays for it, it is

February 28th, 2013 at 9:36 PM | Ha, Mike Aresco got totally (Score:2)
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Ha, Mike Aresco got totally fleeced in this deal.  He signs on from CBS to be the "Big East Commissioner" but now it turns out there is totally another, legitimate "Big East" out there and he now heads the Conference USA/Sun Belt/Middle Child conference.

So much for that brand.

February 28th, 2013 at 9:45 PM | Big East (Score:2)
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That is a great BBall conference and could be good in soccer and lax if they have enough teams. It would interesting to see if St. Mary's or Gonzaga join or maybe they are to far west to make it work. As for the old big east maybe they can be renamed goulash.

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February 28th, 2013 at 9:49 PM | I doubt they add those (Score:3 Normal)
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I doubt they add those schools.  Without FBS football, it makes poor financial sense to have that much travel for all sports.  The West Coast schools who joined the old Big East for football SDSU, Boise, etc joined for football only. 

February 28th, 2013 at 9:51 PM | Big East (Score:3 Normal)
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Perhaps they could call themselves the Apostolic 12. Would Butler be doubting Thomas? Or perhaps DePaul since I doubt that they'll ever be good again.

 

I need a spreadsheet or something to keep track of which teams are in which conferences.

February 28th, 2013 at 9:52 PM | I thought U of D might have (Score:1)
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I thought U of D might have been a decent choice. There basketball program is on the rise and getting some nationally televised games. And they did make the tournament last year as well.

February 28th, 2013 at 10:25 PM | I've got (Score:1)
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A name for the old Big East...



I Can't Believe It's Not The Big East or



The ICBINTBE Conference shortened to the BIN for short i.e. this conference belongs in the trash bin.

 

February 28th, 2013 at 10:36 PM | Division names (Score:-1 Flamebait)
February 28th, 2013 at 10:51 PM | Well that's inappropriate. (Score:5 Normal)
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Well that's inappropriate.

February 28th, 2013 at 11:45 PM | Two of your three last comments... (Score:4 Normal)
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have been inappropriate for this forum. Why not sit a few plays out and see how people usually comment on the MGoBoard?

Go Blue!

March 1st, 2013 at 1:14 PM | And let's not forget (Score:2)
StateStreetApostle
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that this tool isn't even taking a good shot.

the post he was replying to was about the OLD big East, not the Catholic 7.

what a maroon.

thanks for taking this tool to the shed.

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March 1st, 2013 at 12:02 AM | UConn and Cincy??? (Score:1)
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Do they go to Conference USA?  That's a pretty big step down for both of them, especially UConn's women bball team.

March 1st, 2013 at 8:36 AM | No... (Score:1)
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Houston, SMU and the other schools have basketball as well. They will though be in a shitty basketball conference.

March 1st, 2013 at 12:04 AM | Good conference but (Score:1)
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bad name.  They should have rebranded themselves, for lots of reasons, including the fact that it is basically a midwest conference once they get done completing the membership.  The Big East is a damaged brand.

March 1st, 2013 at 9:17 AM | As a hoops fan (Score:2 Normal)
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I LOVE this conference.  It may often lack elite teams but I think it is going to be a very competitive conference with a lot of quality teams.

This is just an observation, but as a lawyer, this reminds me of how the past ten years saw a couple of co-evolving trends.  Lots of mergers of firms into mega-firms and at the same time a lot of smaller boutique firms that are ultra specialized formed and are succeeding.

That new conference is a nice boutique hoops league and as long as they don't overreach or try to turn it into something else, they should do quite well. 

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March 1st, 2013 at 11:38 AM | Poor damn UConn.  They need (Score:1)
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Poor damn UConn.  They need to get out soon.

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March 1st, 2013 at 12:03 PM |   Good take from a Cincinnati (Score:2)
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Good take from a Cincinnati fan...

"I am seriously tired of having my balls hurt from all the crotch shots we've been taking lately. Consider in the past 18 months we have:

1) Lost AQ Status
2) Had 5 all-sports conference members bail on us, including rivals Louisville and Pitt
3) Lost the basketball schools
4) Got a television contract that will actually play less than what we previously earned
5) All indications are the new b-ball conference will pay their members $1-2M more per team. 
6) Said conference will add none other than our cross town rivals who don't play fball and have a small fraction of the fan interest that we do. 
7) Now it looks like we will no longer be in a conference called the Big East and will play in Conference American (or whatever they want to call it). 

What more can they do to UC? I have already resigned to the fact they will rip the better bowls from us and leave us with the Toilet Bowl.... what else is next after that? The rate we are going they are only going to allow our football team play with 10 players on each side from here on out."

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March 1st, 2013 at 12:43 PM | Where do the leftovers go? (Score:1)
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Perhaps they can join the Kentucky Colonels, Virgina Squires and (personal fav) Flint Tropics in the ABA

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March 1st, 2013 at 1:01 PM | The basketball will be (Score:2)
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The basketball will be alright for 1 more season at least with a 4 or 5 bid conference...

Memphis 24-4

Louisville 23-5

Southern Miss 21-7

Temple 20-8

Connecticut 19-8

Cincinnati 19-9

Central Florida 19-9

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