Caleb Houstan 3 Point Shot Issue
March 21st, 2022 at 11:37 AM ^
Nice hawt take. Let's CC the coaching staff right away
March 21st, 2022 at 11:39 AM ^
Can you take to Twitter and pump Dogecoin some more? I need to dump my position.
March 21st, 2022 at 12:08 PM ^
Reminds me of something I saw online a while ago.
Yeah, I make NFTs. Non-flushable turds.
March 21st, 2022 at 12:46 PM ^
NFTs are like that game of musical chairs. Someone is going to be left with it and realize uh oh nobody wants this. No thank you.
March 21st, 2022 at 10:33 PM ^
The living embodiment of the "Greater Fool" Theory.
March 21st, 2022 at 11:39 AM ^
Fire Caleb Houstan
March 21st, 2022 at 12:55 PM ^
It's worth a shot!
As long as he’s not fading away
March 21st, 2022 at 11:43 AM ^
He needs some sessions with Coach Beilein!
March 21st, 2022 at 11:47 AM ^
Plenty of guys went through shooting slumps in the Beilein era. His offense generated a lot of open threes, and we attempted a high volume of them, but we didn't shoot a particularly high percentage.
March 21st, 2022 at 11:51 AM ^
Some teams were more reliable at it than others, but I remember more than one season where the question of "how is _____ shooting today" was a major question whose answer determined a lot about the outcome. The 2018 FF team was like that, for one.
March 21st, 2022 at 12:07 PM ^
Moe Wagner was the ultimate case. If he made that first three, it seemed to be a sign he was dialed in.
We also had that fun thing where if Duncan Robinson scored six points, we never lost.
March 21st, 2022 at 12:11 PM ^
DRob, a 40% career shooter in the NBA, shot 38% his final year at Michigan. It is pretty bananas.
March 21st, 2022 at 12:21 PM ^
So, rashan gary had 9.5 sacks in his total time at Michigan. he has 20 sacks in the NFl in 3 years. things be diff.
Like coaching. At Michigan Don Brown had this thing about putting your hand in the dirt among other things. He almost never does that now.
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March 21st, 2022 at 12:51 PM ^
Outside of the TA&M game where we shot the lights out, our shooting was beyond terrible in the 2018 tournament. Here were the shooting splits:
Montana - 44/31/63
Houston - 35/26/70
TA&M - 61/58/87
FSU - 38/18/66
Loyola - 42/25/66
Villanova - 43/13/61
Two games in the 20s and two games in the teens from 3, and from a Beilein offense no less. Kind of incredible we made it to the championship game shooting so poorly in 5/6 games (though our defense that year was outstanding), but we lucked out having such an easy road (14/6/7/9/11 seeds) until we hit the Nova buzzsaw...
Huh?
March 21st, 2022 at 11:44 AM ^
Confidence ! Thank god his D is making up for it !
March 21st, 2022 at 11:45 AM ^
Houstan 3 to beat Houston !!!!!
March 21st, 2022 at 11:45 AM ^
I know you're getting negged for this take, but wasn't this something that he or the coaching staff actually talked about early in the year?
March 21st, 2022 at 11:46 AM ^
Yes, indeed.
March 21st, 2022 at 12:06 PM ^
So...this is old news.
March 21st, 2022 at 11:45 AM ^
Houstan is exactly what we all know he is at this point.
If he has an open catch-and-shoot 3 AND he gets his feet set, he's an excellent shooter.
Get him even slightly off-platform and he's as inaccurate as it gets.
I don't even want to hazard a guess as to whether he can ever shoot accurately with anything other than perfect form, but he can certainly clean up his footwork and bury the catch-and-shoots. Didn't really notice anything else with his form, but if OP is accurate that too should be something that can be cleaned up pretty readily.
March 21st, 2022 at 12:23 PM ^
Am pretty sure Caleb is getting this kind of critique from the coaching staff. A work-in-progress type thing. He just needs to keep practicing.
March 21st, 2022 at 12:24 PM ^
Need him out there with TWill to make sure they go down.
March 21st, 2022 at 11:46 AM ^
Well...
All I'm gonna say on this topic is that (I think!) it's safe to say that we are not gonna win vs. Villanova if Houstan puts up another zero in terms of points.
We got away with it vs. Tennessee, for a variety of reasons (one BIG one being that the Vols' 3-point game was basically non-existent), but against Nova? I don't think that this strategy is gonna work.
March 21st, 2022 at 11:59 AM ^
We don't necessarily need a big game from him, but I don't think we can get away with almost no scoring from him and our point guards, like we did against Tennessee. Houstan, Jones, and Collins combined for four points. Brooks compensated with 23 points on 9-14 shooting, but I don't know if we can expect that again.
I doubt we beat Nova if any of our starters don’t score. Maybe at the start of the tournament, you can get away with it, if some other stuff goes your way, but I don’t see making it to the Elite 8 with a big void at any position. I’ve never felt like making a thread for it, but I’d be interested in knowing if there’s a lot of people out there that are hoping that Terence Williams gets the start over Houstan. Also, if there’s anyone who thinks that Brandon Johns can heat up in the tournament like he did last year, I’d be interested in hearing it.
March 21st, 2022 at 11:47 AM ^
Hopefully he's due for a massive "Stauskas-esque performance in the Elite Eight against Florida" type of course correction against Villanova.
Seems like if he can hit just one three, he's going to hit another 3-4. And that'll be a game where Michigan needs all the points it can get.
Stauskas had both a far quicker release and elevated more on his shot, Houstan hasn't shown that all year even in games where his percentage has been good.
March 21st, 2022 at 11:48 AM ^
Houstan obviously has work to do in the offseason, and this is an important task for the coaching staff. Beilein was, for obvious reasons, pretty good at developing his shooters (though not perfect; Simpson, for example, never quite got there). We have less of a track record for Juwan in this regard. But Houstan as a levelled-up shooter next season would be a biiiig boost to the team next year. And it is certainly possible.
Assuming he comes back.
March 21st, 2022 at 11:59 AM ^
Houstan is one of the weirdest cases I've seen. The guy can probably kick the crap out of most people in a catch & shoot 3-pt exhibition in a gym but when you get into a game and he has to take a 3 that is not perfectly set up in any way, he almost always misses it.
Hopefully he comes back next season and figures out his issues over the offseason.
March 21st, 2022 at 12:01 PM ^
I'll say this for Houstan: he didn't mentally check out of the game. He more-or-less hung in there defensively.
Defensively he was pretty good. He was excellent on D in the second half vs Colorado St as well.
He just seemed afraid of the ball all second half vs Tennessee. Looked uncomfortable dribbling, passes were rushed, and rebounding he couldn’t get two hands on them. Props to him for hanging in there and doing everything he could do without the ball.
Yes, his defensive improvement has been significant and critical to our success.
March 21st, 2022 at 12:09 PM ^
You are as overconfident, in making pronouncements on the internet about things you don't know about, as the actual Real Elon Musk, so I respect the commitment to the bit.
March 21st, 2022 at 12:15 PM ^
Great story, compelling and rich.
March 21st, 2022 at 12:18 PM ^
For Michigan to Advance the Freshman have to start playing like Juniors...now or never ...show what all those recruiting starts are all about...Cant live on Hunter all game every game and Eli is Eli ROCK FUKN SOLID....Devante dont turn the ball over Williams and Frankie are starting to Shine..Brandon Johns? What happened to YOU?
BEAT NOVA
March 21st, 2022 at 12:24 PM ^
the Freshman have to start playing like Juniors
Frankie Collins is a freshman, dude. So is Diabate. Both guys have come up big in this tourney. Houstan didn’t shoot well against UT but he’s made a lot of strides defensively.
March 21st, 2022 at 12:21 PM ^
Why don't we obsess over Eli Brooks' 3-pt shooting? They are statistically identical. (if Caleb made 1 more shot over the course of the season, they would be tied) And don't even get me going about DJ
(also statistically identical to EJ Liddell, J Wheeler, Jaden Ivey, Sasha Stefanovic, Ben Mathurin and a click or two better than Johnny Davis, Brad Davison, Max Christie)
March 21st, 2022 at 12:26 PM ^
Because Caleb is either hot or cold and it's inconsistency that has hurt this team throughout the season.
March 21st, 2022 at 12:29 PM ^
Because 1) Brooks finds ways to score even when his outside shot is off; 2) Houstan (unlike Brooks) is tall enough to get off his shot against pretty much anyone; and 3) so far Houstan has shot much better at Crisler than away from it, which is an issue given that we have no home games left.
Houstan has one main job in our offense, to be a sniper from long range. When he shoots well, we win. When he shoots poorly, we don't always lose (we didn't at OSU or vs. Tennessee) but our margin for error gets a lot slimmer.
March 21st, 2022 at 12:36 PM ^
Because Brooks wasn't our all-time highest rated recruit?
But to be honest, he hasn't been great this year either.
March 21st, 2022 at 12:51 PM ^
Brooks is shooting 38.7% from 3 this year. He shot 39.6% last year. He shot 36.4% the year before.
Why would we be complaining about his 3-point shooting this year?
so you are saying that if Houstan made 2 more shots this year, nobody would be complaining about his shooting? That's the difference between 'he can't shoot' and 'he shot 38%, why would we be complaining' 2 makes.
BTW - Fr and So Eli shot under 30%
March 21st, 2022 at 12:59 PM ^
Brooks is a 6’1” guard with so-so quickness. He’s given us about all he’s capable of giving. He’s overperformed if anything. And he usually delivers when the team desperately needs a bucket or a stop.
Because Brooks is 45% from the field with twice as many assists, more ppg and almost as many rebounds from the SG position as a SF.
More importantly, Caleb had 12 games with 6 points or less this season. Brooks 3. The variation in Caleb's game is a killer in the tourney. We'll all take the 21 point outburst against IL, of course, but he's equally prone to the goose egg.
They should post a mean and std dev with everyone's ppg. I'm pretty sure that Caleb is way above the other names mentioned in his std dev. Plus, most of those guys you point to are getting more attention than Caleb.
Don't get me wrong. The kid is getting there, but he is what he is this year, which isn't there yet.
Diabate is our 2nd all time rated recruit. He shot 21% (sorry that was snarky)
How about some of our noted shooters and their freshman years:
Caris - 30.2%
THJ - 36.7%
Sauce - 44.0%
Walton 41%
Zac Irvin - 42% (then 35, 29, and 34 as a starter)
Duncan Robinson (not freshman, but first year) in Big Ten play - 35.2% (pre-big 10 he was the greatest shooter I ever say already as he shot 60%!!!) But just 35% in BT play.
Consistency? Houstan in Big Ten play had 9 games with 0 or 1 made 3. Robinson that year had 9 games with 0 or 1 made 3.
March 21st, 2022 at 12:22 PM ^
I'm going off on a bit of a tangent here but during the Staee game yesterday I was thinking how many here would trade Caleb for Max Christie. Christie was a 5 star and I think ranked higher than Caleb but seems lost in the Izzo system.