Cal & Stanford To The...ACC?

Submitted by Michfan777 on August 7th, 2023 at 7:13 PM

"ACC leaders are set to begin exploratory discussions on the potential additions of Cal and Stanford to the conference, sources told ESPN on Monday."

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wolpherine2000

August 8th, 2023 at 12:04 AM ^

OSU and Wazzu's financial woes have everything to do with fulfilling their academic missions as agricultural and engineering schools (rather than business or health care). Notable that their lack of financial power is the primary reason to deprive them of a conference affiliation that would benefit their balance sheet. All this to say that there is no motivation behind these conference realignments besides concentrating the largest amount of broadcast revenues among the smallest number of schools.

BoFan

August 7th, 2023 at 11:59 PM ^

Thad,

Stanford has more NCAA championships, Olympic Athletes, and director’s cups than any other university.  Stanford has also had some great years in football and basketball. They are the premier athletic university in the nation.  Cal probably has more Nobel laureates than any other FBS university.  Cal also has some championship teams now and then.  
 

WSU and OrSU can go a separate way. 

ThadMattasagoblin

August 8th, 2023 at 12:50 AM ^

Nobody is disputing that their olympic sports are great. Stanford football has five Pac 10/12 titles since 1971. Stanford men's basketball has been to the NCAA Tournament once since 2008. Cal football has one Pac 10/12 title since 1975. Cal men's basketball has been to the NCAA tournament three times since 2010.

joegeo

August 8th, 2023 at 1:20 AM ^

You did a statistically weird thing of picking a statistically favorable year - 1971 - only to prove a point.

Stanford won all 5 of those pac titles beginning 1992, only Oregon, Washington, and USC have won more in that span. Even if we add that 20 year drought back to 1972, 5 championships drops to 5th behind UCLA, who was dominant in the 80s.

Ultimately, it's less about performance and more about the market. Even when they're good, nobody watches or cares.

UofM Die Hard …

August 7th, 2023 at 10:24 PM ^

I’m not saying WSU should even get a sniff from big ten, not in the slightest. But to say they bring nothing is false. 
 

https://247sports.com/college/washington-state/article/this-is-big-wsu-football-among-most-viewed-teams-outside-of-sec-big-10-and-notre-dame-189887289/amp/

 

I just don’t get why they don’t get a serious look from big 12. 

Leaders And Best

August 8th, 2023 at 9:33 AM ^

I don't see how that helps. A 22-team conference is no longer a collegiate conference. It's a pro league, and all rivalries would suffer from the scheduling nightmare that would ensue.

If the Big Ten were to wise up, the better move would be to scrap this whole West Coast expansion altogether. The whole thing feels rushed, and I feel like parties on both sides are going to regret it. Not as bad as Rutgers, but I don't think this will be viewed as a positive in the long-term.

MMBbones

August 7th, 2023 at 7:33 PM ^

Every school has some goofy moments in its history. But as a band geek, here's some trivia about the Stanford band in the 1980's:

They had a keg at band rehearsals and a sign at the front of the band hall that read, "No fat chicks." 

They once performed a halftime show that attempted to portray a penis going back and forth into a vagina.

WIlliam D. Revelli of Michigan wrote to the president of Stanford to say their band was an absolute disgrace.

That was all long ago. I'm sure times have changed. But I have always had a sort of negative vibe about them since.