DrMantisToboggan

April 5th, 2015 at 12:20 PM ^

A great get. I like Dez a lot. Not a flashy type, won't be a heisman winner. But he has good feet, runs smooth routes, and plays hard. Jason Avant-type reliability at the position.

Now if we get Dontavious Jackson this week as well...WOW. That dude can lay the lumber, Jack.

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DrMantisToboggan

April 5th, 2015 at 12:46 PM ^

3 wide receivers have ever won the Heisman, and one was actually a Cornerback. I agree with the idea that rankings are rarely accurate (given my reason for liking Fitzpatrick more than Corley, film doesn't lie, rankings do), but when you see a Desmond Howard or a Troy Brown, you know. This kid could be a 1st round pick one day, but I will bet 90 cents on every dollar I ever earn that he doesn't win the Heisman, and that's not a knock on him at all.

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Perkis-Size Me

April 5th, 2015 at 1:33 PM ^

If college rankings or recruiting stars teach us anything, it's that they don't mean squat in the end. Pro career notwithstanding, Manziel was a three star nobody in high school and then became A&M's first Heisman winner. JJ Watt was a two star nobody who switched positions and changed schools, and look how he ended up.

All bets are off once you get into the college game.



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jblaze

April 5th, 2015 at 3:55 PM ^

What happens is that generic 3* guys become looked at more closely/ get a bump when top teams offer and the kid commits to a top team (I know we sucked last year, but Harbaugh's talent evaluation is viewed highly in all of football).

Similarly, when the early top 100/250 lists come out, the 5* guys usually have interest from the powerhouses. If a random "talent evaluater" (who are these people anyway and if they know what they are doing, why aren't they employed at a NCAA or NFL team, but anyway) gives a kid 2*, but the kid has offers from say OSU, UM, Bama, and USC, then I'm sure somebody is going to bump the kid to a 4*, because all of those top coaches think he's worth it.

Then, somebody publishes a "study" that says 5*s are more likely to go to the NFL and of course they are. When coaches at say OSU, UM, Bama, and USC... offer a kid and really want him, chances are that the NFL is a likely destination as opposed to a guy who didn't get any of those offers.

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PeteM

April 5th, 2015 at 4:28 PM ^

Yes, there are programs like Michigan State that vastly outperform their rankings, but look at the average national ranks over the last 5 years.  According to 24/7, Alabama, Florida State, and Ohio State are the top 3.  Recruiting great talent doesn't guaranty results -- coaching and having players that fit what you are trying to do matter too.  It certainly makes a huge difference.

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Steve Breaston…

April 5th, 2015 at 5:50 PM ^

Do you know how many five star players started in the Super Bowl this year? ZERO. Something like five or six four-stars and the rest three stars or less. I understand what you're saying about the top college programs but the fact is there are too many variables to have any definitive conclusion



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DetroitBlue

April 5th, 2015 at 6:08 PM ^

The fact that no 5 stars started in the super bowl doesn't really mean anything. Recruiting services are far from perfect, but the fact is that if you're a five star you are much more likely to play in the NFL than a generic 3-star. Of course there are a lot of variables involved, but being a 5 star is a pretty good indicator of future success.



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