Bubble Watch - Open Thread

Submitted by Leaders And Best on

I think the bolded teams are the ones Michigan is rooting for to get the best odds to make the NCAA Tournament.

Texas A&M 71, LSU 38 F            SEC Semis

St. Joseph's 82, Dayton 79 F      A-10 Semis

Connecticut 77, Temple 62 F     AAC Semis

Kentucky 93, Georgia 80 F         SEC Semis

Michigan St. 64, Maryland 61 F  B1G Semis

VCU 76, Davidson 54 F                A-10 Semis

Memphis 74, Tulane 54 F            AAC Semis

Fresno St. 68, San Diego St. 63 F  MWC Champ.

Steve Fisher and SDSU may have just cost Michigan a berth to the NCAA Tourmanent with a loss tonight. Going to be a long 24 hours.

 

A Lot of Milk

March 12th, 2016 at 5:45 PM ^

2-15 for Trimble. Remind me why Maryland was ranked #1 at any point this year and why Trimble was even considered for the Naismith. Lost in the second round last year and that's where I have them losing this year

The Denarding

March 12th, 2016 at 6:22 PM ^

This is simple. First decide how many big ten teams would be in. Then if you think it's seven you have to decide between Michigan and Ohio state. That is actually what this comes down to. If it's six, then it doesn't matter because we are out. I think seven big ten teams will get in and we will be one of them. But that is the metric I'm using.



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Ty Butterfield

March 12th, 2016 at 6:45 PM ^

Michigan has never gotten the breaks Staee gets. You would think their luck would run out but it never does. This is getting old.

Wolvie3758

March 12th, 2016 at 7:50 PM ^

Wins agaisnt top 30 teams dont matter ..Michigan....and Losses to teams over 100 dont matter...pretty much every other bubble team out there...In a logical world losses to teams over 100 should weigh Heavily against you...unless your a Jay Bilas or Joe Lunardi who hate Michigan....or others who have a axe to gring against Michigan..Oh yeah didnt the Big Ten WIN the Big/ACC challenge? YET the ACC is so superior?  its all politics and Jay Bilas woulnt be biased or anything ...right?

Leaders And Best

March 12th, 2016 at 8:28 PM ^

6 of their 9 losses are to teams in the tournament. 3 of them are to teams in the top 10 RPI. They have one bad loss and two borderline. C'mon man. Their resume has warts, but no need to exaggerate this part. They did lose a bunch of these games at home which I think is a knock against them.

I was just making the point that a lot of objective computer rankings look highly upon them.

Leaders And Best

March 12th, 2016 at 10:42 PM ^

I don't like their resume much. I have no idea if we get in before SDSU. I was responding to someone saying it was absurd that they might.

I think some people are mistaking some of my posts today. My take is that Michigan is in a really precarious position. But some people are posting on here like it is some clear cut, slam dunk case that Michigan gets in, and it's not. Our RPI and KenPom are not good compared to other bubble teams. Our Sagarin rating is a little better, but not that much better than other bubble teams. Those objective measures should give everyone pause, but some have brushed it off as no big deal.

Franz Schubert

March 12th, 2016 at 8:47 PM ^

You are insufferable. They have one win against a tourney team . They have 5 losses to non tournament teams including a loss to a 300+ team!! So yeah, one win against a team that would receive an at large bid to this tournament and 5 losses to non tournament teams. Michigan meanwhile has 4 elite wins over top 5 seeds and a total on 1 loss to a non tournament team.

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Leaders And Best

March 12th, 2016 at 10:23 PM ^

Dude, you need to chill out. I was responding to the hot take that it is absurd that SDSU gets in before us. I am not saying or advocating that they should or will. But to dismiss them completely when some objective measurements look more favorably on them than Michigan should at least make you slow down and realize it may be closer than you believe.

bronxblue

March 12th, 2016 at 9:29 PM ^

By this logic, UM has 1 loss to a non-tourney team (SMU would be in if they were eligible).  UM's worst loss (to OSU) is basically equivalent to SDSU's 2nd-best win (to Fresno, which then beat them 2 straight times).

The computers look highly upon them because they played a very tough OOC schedule, but as we've seen historically non-P5 teams with these types of numbers aren't shoo-ins by any stretch, especially ones that have a terrible loss (at home to SD) and exactly 1 top-50 win to their name.

mfan_in_ohio

March 12th, 2016 at 8:17 PM ^

3-7 against the top 100, 1-4 against the top 50, 1 loss in the 100-200 range, and a loss to #300 San Diego, which is worse than losing to Rutgers, if that's possible.

ThatGuyCeci

March 13th, 2016 at 8:51 AM ^

FWIW palm now has us in as an 11 seed not even in the first four anymore. So that's a good sign considering it's his last bracket before selection Sunday for most bubble teams