The BTN Crew All Picked UM to Finish 3rd

Submitted by BlueWon on

in their East preview. They all cited the offense as having not been clicking during the practice they attended during their tour. All  three thought the defense would be very strong.

Given we're replacing 10 starters on defense it seems a bit counterintuitive to think it would be demonstrably stronger than the offense at this point.

Do we write this off to DiNardo being DiNardo or are they on to something?

M go Bru

August 29th, 2017 at 11:16 AM ^

at the beginning of camp. Defense needs less precision and coordination to be successful.

We already know our defense is better than the offense to begin with. Maybe it means our defense is just that much better.

We sure are not going to be exposing our playbook to the BTN crew. That's what makes our offense go!

Adding to what GoBlue519 said below. I just saw the BIG MSU preview. They said that MSU was talented last year but failed because of their internal issues. A lot of the other problems they had, including the loss of defensive linemen, happened before camp started. They can't justify their overated review solely on the internal issue excuse. MSU had no competent quarterbacks other than Lewerke and the lack of that recognition is a huge indictment on their coaching staff. Lazy and uninsightful review then and now. 

GoBlue519

August 29th, 2017 at 9:16 AM ^

Those bozos can't even pronounce player names properly.  They repeat all of the media narratives for every team and then pick OSU.  

DiNardo said last night that their analysis on MSU last year wasn't wrong, they were a bad football team because of all of their internal issues.  Okay Jerry.

Hail Harbo

August 29th, 2017 at 9:19 AM ^

First of all this was a prediction made three weeks ago after just a couple of padded practices.  Second, 2014 this same crew predicted that Michigan would vie for the B1G Championship.

Wolfman

August 29th, 2017 at 9:20 AM ^

Offense, and its a huge part, is predicated on timing. This takes awhile and i am certain they saw things, especially with all the new pieces, i.e. TE, WRs, RBs to a degree that would give them cause for pause.

We all now our D, although technically new in many areas has experience and a wealth of talent. Further, the D is normally far ahead of the O at this point because its not so dependent on timing and instead is assignment dependent. It normally works itself out at about the three week mark, so if we get through the OOC in good shape we should remain that way. 

ldevon1

August 29th, 2017 at 9:21 AM ^

Penn St returns 9 starters on offense. Arguably the besy RB in the nation, and a pre season All America TE, 7 starters on defense and they won the conference. OSU is OSU. Just win. 

war-dawg69

August 29th, 2017 at 11:48 AM ^

Penn state plays nobody until they travel to Iowa. If they struggle or you see these lesser teams putting up points on their defense they will fail in conference play. I think they will struggle against Iowa and maybe lose. I think they drop one to either Iowa or Northwestern. I just don't think there that good. Your analogy is spot on. There defense is weak and so is their o-line. The truth is no one actually knows how good the Michigan team is going to be because of the unknowns. Who is actually doing research or knows the players Michigan is fielding. I could be wrong, but after the Florida game you will see a lot of these clowns jumping on the Michigan bandwagon.

Everyone Murders

August 29th, 2017 at 9:23 AM ^

Something something why they play the games something.

It's not a crazy prediction.  PSU looks to have a very good, if somewhat overrated team this year, and we're replacing a lot of talent (with other talent).  So third place in the East may be our lot in life.  To state the obvious, the pivotal B1G games will be against PSU and Wisconsin.  Both very winnable, and neither a gimme. 

 

Fieldy'sNuts

August 29th, 2017 at 9:28 AM ^

I distinctly remember DiNardo picking MSU to win the conference in 2012 when they ended up going 7-5.

ldevon1

August 29th, 2017 at 9:29 AM ^

I don't like Dinardo, but he has been right about Michigan almost every year, and they all said they would'nt be surprised if any of the 3 won the division, it's that close. 

Lorch Hall

August 29th, 2017 at 9:32 AM ^

had a very young team when it won the NC for 2014. About 10 or so total starters were sophomores. Outside their early loss to Va Tech, the inexperience was no issue. No reason to think this M team cannot similarly overachieve.

Tuebor

August 29th, 2017 at 9:36 AM ^

Objectively I can see why.  OSU is still OSU.  PSU has the best RB in a conference where you have to be able to run the ball to win.  Michigan lost 10 starters on defense, top 3 pass catching targets, 3 multi year OL, and return a very unexciting QB in an era of exciting QBs.  If you don't have mgoblog level knowledge of the team I can see why you'd be skeptical of our chances this year.

 

That being said if we beat Florida we are at worst 9-1 but probably 10-0 heading into Wisconsin and OSU.  

charblue.

August 29th, 2017 at 9:46 AM ^

they don't think that our team is better than we think it is going into the season. So, lots of people feel that way. Everybody's opinion is valid until it isn't. I am hoping our team will demonstrfate what we know inherently is true about it, lots of talent with limited starting experience but lots of playing time at many positions that we expect to produce great results.

There are four huge games and three big ones that must be won on the road to make the last one as meaningful as we all want it to be when it happens. Just play to win and forget who thought your team wasn't as good as someone else at this point. They play the games to prove it.

M-Dog

August 29th, 2017 at 9:54 AM ^

Why are we offended by where anyone picks us in August?

I could not tell you a single prediction that anybody made about us last August, because once the season started, IT DID NOT MATTER A LICK.

This season starts in 4 days.

 

StephenRKass

August 29th, 2017 at 9:55 AM ^

I think it is a reasonable conclusion and analysis. I also think it is wrong.

I do believe that it is going to take time for the offense to fire on all cylinders. Fortunately, the season is set up well for Michigan. If Michigan is good enough to get past Florida, which I believe they are, UM could easily begin 6 - 0. It is in the next 7 and a half weeks that the offense will have the time to gel and get down timing, etc. The OL really needs to work well together and stay healthy, for both pass pro and to create running lanes. Imhe, the offense will need to be better in order to beat PSU. But win that game, and we have reasonably clear sailing until OSU. And if any time is hungry to beat OSU, it is Michigan.

Should the miraculous happen, Michigan would go to the national championship playoff. (The Big 10 championship is virtually a given if Michigan beats OSU.) I don't think Michigan is good enough to win the national championship this year. But it would at least get part of the monkey off our backs to beat OSU, PSU, and win the Big 10. That's a great goal for now.

Ali G Bomaye

August 29th, 2017 at 10:01 AM ^

I mean, it's the obvious prediction. Penn State is returning a lot of guys from a team that won the B1G championship last year, and Ohio State has been consistently excellent since Meyer arrived.

But even a unanimous prediction is far from a guarantee. If I were to put odds on it, I'd say there's a 35% chance of OSU winning the B1G, a 20% chance of PSU winning, a 20% chance of Michigan winning, a 15% chance of Wisconsin winning, and a 10% chance of somebody else winning.

Tuebor

August 29th, 2017 at 2:01 PM ^

I'd say Wisconsin has the best chance to win the conference because it is an almost certainty that they will be in the championship game.  Even if they might not be favored against the three teams from the east individually in said game, it counts a lot just to make it.

 

40% chance of winning a game you are 90% likely to be in is a better odds than 60% chance of winning a game you are at best 1/3 likely to be in.

CarrIsMyHomeboy

August 29th, 2017 at 10:06 AM ^

Honestly, predicting a 3rd place finish isn't insane. Much less insane than picking Michigan to finish 1st. It seems odd for any preseason projection in the 2nd/3rd range to cause this board such mental pain.

ghostofhoke

August 29th, 2017 at 10:13 AM ^

OP, I'm assuming your contention is they obviously should have predicted we'd be first and win the B1G outright, correct? Just want to make sure we all know just how homerish we should be responding.