January 8th, 2020 at 2:10 PM ^
Well said. I hope he has enough success that he can finish out his career there as head coach.
January 8th, 2020 at 3:05 PM ^
I blame Brandon for Hoke's failure more than Hoke himself. Say what you will about the man, but OSU never blew him out and only won those games late in the 4th quarter.
January 9th, 2020 at 5:17 PM ^
Brady, by all accounts was one hell of a nice guy who got his dream job and fucked it up.
Agree 110% with the everything before the, 'and,' totally disagree with everything after.
I think that Brady had no doubt he could handle his dream job. He didn't set out to fail, I think he learned his limitations as a football coach on a stage that was simply too big for his capabilities.
Best of luck to Coach Hoke, hope he sees lots of wins down there in SD!
January 8th, 2020 at 1:34 PM ^
I hope he succeeds and I’m interested to see if he does.
He’s clearly a good DL coach, but I’m not sure if that’s where his competency ends.
January 8th, 2020 at 1:41 PM ^
Not sure I would agree with that. Brady had some success in both the MAC and the Mountain West. His last two years at Ball State were 7-6 and 12-1. He then moved to SDSU where, after his first year, he went 9-4. He also had an 11-win season at Michigan (admittedly with mostly RR and late-Carr recruited talent). Point is that at the lower level of competition, Hoke has shown the ability to succeed.
January 8th, 2020 at 2:18 PM ^
Are you disagreeing with me or something? I said "I'm not sure that's where his competency end," which is why this is interesting to see play out.
He had his one fluke good year at Michigan before tanking and he had his 12-1 season. Besides that, he's been "meh" to "bad." The jury is very clearly still out on Brady as a HC - he might be good or he might be terrible. I'm glad we get to find out and I hope he does well.
January 8th, 2020 at 2:35 PM ^
At SDSU he inherited a 2-10 team and was 9-4 two seasons later. Whether he could have sustained it, we don't know (though Long did), but that's a good turnaround.
January 8th, 2020 at 9:29 PM ^
Every HC does quite well (even if short of Meyer/Saban levels) when they can pay their coordinators >$1,000,000 per year. It is always hard to separate the HC's skill from that of their staff. That said, Hoke has done well when he finds or inherits a QB (as does everyone.) Unfortnately, RR did not leave Hoke with a QB but an RB that could thow and a WR that could throw farther. Hoke recruits well and schedules the best teams that will play his team. Strength of schedule is never a reason for wins. I see Hoke as competent if not wildly successful. He seems to be a man that loves to coach.
January 8th, 2020 at 1:35 PM ^
Will he wear red?
January 8th, 2020 at 1:35 PM ^
Is he going to walk to Ann Arbor in a few years?
January 8th, 2020 at 1:37 PM ^
SDSU, get ready to CLAP. YOUR. HANDS.
January 8th, 2020 at 1:38 PM ^
I, for one, am rooting for him to succeed there. By all accounts, Brady was a good guy who loved our university. He was a part of the 1997 NC, and was the primary recruiter for our most accomplished sports alum, Tom Brady.
There is no sugar coating that his time as HC here was a failure, but I would be curious to know how much of that was having an overbearing and disruptive AD, inheriting a team that (after his first year) was COMPLETELY devoid of upperclassmen leadership and talent and a program going through its second 180-degree turn in only a few years (from Carr-ball, to whatever RR was doing, back to Brady/Carr-ball). I'm not remotely suggesting that Brady did not play a big part in the failure, but who knows how his tenure would have turned out under different circumstances.
January 9th, 2020 at 10:41 AM ^
I think a lot of it was Peter Principle. He had prior HC experience before coming to Michigan, but not all head coaching jobs are alike. Michigan is a vastly more complicated institution than Ball State. The bigger stage means the competition is more fierce, and for better or worse, the tradition and money means more politics. It's more like running a federal agency than a small chain of Hoke's BBQ, and Hoke is more of a craftsman than a politically savvy executive.
Despite his failures at Tennessee and Carolina, and setting aside that we have fresh blood in Nua, in principle I'd hire him back as a DL coach in a heartbeat. At those stops he was basically set up for failure, and holy crap the D-lines he recruited & developed while he was here were some of the best in the country.
January 8th, 2020 at 1:39 PM ^
Good for Hoke, when he was here the 1st time he was recruiting well and better than what Long had been so there is a good chance he really builds sdsu into a power on their level and be a consistent group of 5 contender.
January 8th, 2020 at 1:40 PM ^
Good for him. Hoke is inheriting a successful G5 program that he is familiar with in a fairly talent rich part of the country.
Hoke is taking over a program that has been to 10 consecutive bowl games (winning 5), compiling a 90-42 (68%) overall record over the last decade with 3 conference titles.
January 8th, 2020 at 1:43 PM ^
First time he'll be in the same location for more than one year since Michigan.
January 8th, 2020 at 1:45 PM ^
Would it be weird if he hired Long as the DC?
January 8th, 2020 at 1:50 PM ^
Hoke has a hell of a first season. Ok second season and then falls apart over the next two. Harbaugh is let go from UM and takes over with an area he is familiar with -San Diego. He goes on to a 10 win season but with “Hokes players”. At this point since he isnt “Hated Harbaugh” anymore in the press like he is here at Michigan he leads SDSU to become the next Boise State. We all wonder why he couldnt do the same thing here? Rinse repeat.
Hopefully our new Head Coach Partridge does well as his replacement.
January 8th, 2020 at 1:51 PM ^
"I would walk from down the hall to be the head coach at SDSU"
January 8th, 2020 at 1:52 PM ^
Does this mean Gorgeous Borges is returning!?!?!
January 8th, 2020 at 1:54 PM ^
The simulation is glitching again.
January 8th, 2020 at 2:00 PM ^
If he succeeds at SDSU he may be in line to be HC at Michigan someday
/s
January 8th, 2020 at 2:04 PM ^
Well I'll be.... ashes to ashes, dust to dust
January 8th, 2020 at 2:06 PM ^
That's a pretty nutty hire. I know he did well there, but a big reason why was Rocky Long's defenses as his DC. His offenses weren't really special, and he wasn't involved with the defense. There's also a horrible track record of re-hiring a formerly successful coach, as it almost never works out. It's really hard to recreate something after you've failed on a much bigger stage like Hoke did.
And the last thing is, holy shit that job is way better than it used to be. Before Hoke, they'd had mostly losing seasons for decades. But since Hoke left, they've been a perennial winning team under Rocky Long, carved out a recruiting niche especially as USC abandoned physical running offense and they're now the only football game in town in a huge city with a major opportunity to grab headlines and build a larger fanbase. Why on earth would you hire a retread instead of trying to get someone with more energy on the come up to help build your program as a bigger deal in San Diego? Can they not see how badly Utah State bungled a great roster going back to Gary Andersen after his flameout?
January 8th, 2020 at 2:08 PM ^
Good luck, Brady.
At least when he wears a short-sleeved shirt for every game, it won't be so bad.
January 8th, 2020 at 2:09 PM ^
What's an uninspired lazy hire. That's every bit as bad as the Cowboys decision on Mike McCarthy
January 8th, 2020 at 2:11 PM ^
I was aware but not fully aware.
January 8th, 2020 at 2:28 PM ^
PJ Fleck to WMU
January 8th, 2020 at 2:35 PM ^
And here I thought my ID was outdated....
January 8th, 2020 at 2:38 PM ^
But will he return at Michigan??? ??
January 8th, 2020 at 2:42 PM ^
Congrats to Brady.
January 8th, 2020 at 2:56 PM ^
Congratulations to Coach Hoke. I think SDSU is more on his level, and I hope he has some success and stability as he finishes his career. He probably appreciates being there a lot more this time.
January 8th, 2020 at 2:58 PM ^
After he succeeds we have a back up plan for Harbaugh. Again.
January 8th, 2020 at 3:00 PM ^
Good for him. I hope he does well. It's an upset that he got another HC gig, and this was just about the only way it would happen. I hope he can forge another long tenure there and win some stuff.
January 8th, 2020 at 3:07 PM ^
They already have a headset with his name on it. No wait, they don’t.
January 8th, 2020 at 3:07 PM ^
I'm glad for him. Really. His career has been a tire fire ever since the end of the 2012 season here. I'm glad he gets to reboot his coaching career.
January 8th, 2020 at 3:22 PM ^
Amazing... there are people in here marking snarky comments and just won't let shit go.
But over in the Perles thread, "let's be respectful, Perles had friends and family too, RIP".
Good for Hoke. Congrats. I hope they go 12 - 0 this fall.
January 9th, 2020 at 10:20 AM ^
Really? From the guy who wished George Perles to go to Hell? You have no clue what Hell is and to wish that on someone is horrendous.
January 9th, 2020 at 12:45 PM ^
I see reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.
I'm talking about people who are talking being respectful to Perles yet shitting on Hoke. That makes zero sense.
January 8th, 2020 at 3:54 PM ^
I swear there will be people clamoring for him to take over at UM in 3-4 years when he's got SDSU playing well. That's about the level where Hoke is successful.
January 8th, 2020 at 4:20 PM ^
So when is Rich Rod taking over WVU?
January 8th, 2020 at 7:25 PM ^
I have a dollar that says that might actually happen one day.
January 8th, 2020 at 4:25 PM ^
....and thus he returns to a place that perhaps he never should have left. The coaching carousel has lapped itself.
January 8th, 2020 at 4:39 PM ^
Good for him. I have nothing but good wishes for Brady Hoke. An excellent guy who gave his all for Michigan.
January 8th, 2020 at 4:57 PM ^
I'm pretty indifferent to this news.
January 8th, 2020 at 5:27 PM ^
This decade's version of LeBron returning to Cleveland.
January 8th, 2020 at 5:29 PM ^
Hey, ya never know...a few solid seasons at SDSU for this young upstart and he could find himself one day as the head coach at the University of Michigan.
January 8th, 2020 at 5:42 PM ^
Good for him, I didnt care for his coaching style but he seemed like a really good dude.
Congrats Corch Hoke
January 8th, 2020 at 6:08 PM ^
In the words of Vader: The Circle is now complete.