Biggest surprise of the CFB season so far?

Submitted by canzior on September 14th, 2021 at 9:33 AM

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"TWIS" equivalent featuring Buckeye tears.

 

2.5 weeks into the season...what's been your biggest surprise yet based on preseason expectations?  

FSU was shocking but I didn't think they would be good anyways. High school buddy of mine has a son at JSU and they aren't too bad.

UCLA...LSU sucked last year, but everyone *media* brushed it off as a COVID year and assumed they would be good this year (kinda like how they did with PSU but not with Michigan) Not sure UCLA is as good as the media wants them to be, but the Pac12 isn't great so they could make some noise. 

Clay Helton getting fired?  This was inevitable. He's been on the verge of getting fired for 7 years. Danny Kanell asked on the radio yesterday morning, hypothetically, would anyone be shocked if Helton was fired today?  And 8 hours later...

Michigan rushing for 700 yards and being 2-0 is a bit of a surprise. Many had Washington pegged as 1 of 4 losses.

 

 

Champeen

September 14th, 2021 at 9:38 AM ^

Jax State IS bad.  Your buddy is wrong.  UAB beat them 31 - 0 first week.  To me, i figured FSU would be a .500 team.  They are TERRIBLE - that is the biggest shock to me.

MGlobules

September 14th, 2021 at 9:47 AM ^

The utter haplessness is pretty impressive with FSU. And once again, I see one of these coaches who can barely talk his way out of a paper bag, billed (for five minutes) as a savior, making his bazillions while my wife--a prof at FSU--is trying to get a couple thousand to put on a conference. . . and just think that we're not really all right in the head.

And now, of course, he's a POS to all and sundry, like two coaches who preceded him. 

It makes for good theater, but really we just need these hotel beds filled to keep the local economy clicking. 

Blue in Paradise

September 14th, 2021 at 12:03 PM ^

My wife is also a Seminole - she graduated from FSU back in the 90s.

 

I am calling it right now, Norvell gets fired at the end of the year and Prime Time is the new Florida State coach.  A couple of years ago, I thought that would be a disaster - with what he has done at Jackson State University, I now think that he will be fantastic.

Creedence Tapes

September 14th, 2021 at 5:11 PM ^

What exactly has Coach Prime Time done at Jackson State that you think he's ready to coach FSU? Last year they went 4-3 with a forfeit win and losses vs Alabama A&M, Southern and Alabama State, not exactly powerhouses. This year they are 2-0 but with a 7-6 win over Florida A&M and a blowout of Mississippi Valley State. Again not exactly powerhouses.

Are you confusing Jacksonville State, who is not coached by Deion Sanders, and who beat Florida State, with Jackson State, where Sanders is the coach?

lhglrkwg

September 14th, 2021 at 10:21 AM ^

Amusing that Notre Dame was in another early season tussle that people thought was a big time match up and upon further review was just two overrated teams. Too bad FSU didn't win that one because we could've had another 'TEXAS IS BACK' moment

After Notre Dame struggled with Toledo too, it looks like ND is massively overrated right now. That's the resume of a team heading for 7-5

UMinSF

September 14th, 2021 at 1:58 PM ^

I would love for that to be true, but ND's schedule just isn't very daunting. It's nothing short of amazing they won both their games - OT with FSU was decided by missed FG, Toledo had the chance to run out the clock but their guy ran into the end zone giving ND time to score.

How the hell is ND ranked #12?  Amazing how big a role prior season's results play in rankings, especially early in the season.

I'd say ND's incredibly poor showing so far is the biggest surprise, followed by UCLA suddenly looking competent.

XtremeUMich

September 14th, 2021 at 9:48 AM ^

If you asked me last Saturday morning who I would put a million dollar bet on to win; Florida State beating FCS Jacksonville State or Ohio State beating Oregon without their top 2 guys? I would've locked down OSU without a doubt. There's no way I expected them to lose at home to the dinged up ducks.

I also wouldn't have missed the money either, worth it!

Ezekiels Creatures

September 14th, 2021 at 10:14 PM ^

I still think that Latham hit should have been ruled targeting. Not that I think Latham intended to knock him out. But still, his head was down. Minnesota was moving the ball. And if they would have ended up with a TD it would have been 38-45. Instead it was ruled a fumble and Ohio St got the ball.

1VaBlue1

September 14th, 2021 at 9:59 AM ^

I was most surprised by the ass-kicking that USC received from Stanford, especially after Stanford looked so abysmal the previous week.  I had written off David Shaw, and that now seems premature.

My second place surprise is the efficiency and professional precision of Michigan's run game.  I did not see this coming!  I was looking more for the elusive 'speeeeed in spaaaaaaace' we've been looking forward to for three years.  Instead, we went backward to 2016 - and it's working!!  (So far...)

Third place surprise?  Tie between MSU having an actual pulse and the depth of FSU's suckass-edness.

Blau

September 14th, 2021 at 10:20 AM ^

What's not typical is Iowa being ranked #5th in the AP and #7th in the coaches polls --checks date-- on September 14th!? Couple that with no OSU or UM and home against PSU while playing in B1G West and you're looking at a recipe for a Ferentz hype-train.

Granted they don't stumble somewhere in that division, they could run the table and make it to the B1G championship with little resistance. Maybe Wisky?

Newton Gimmick

September 14th, 2021 at 12:09 PM ^

They have a nice defense but their (over)ranking is a consequence of poll logic, i.e. getting two wins against other overranked teams.

They do have a very favorable schedule -- they get Penn St at home & Graham Mertz is garbage -- so one of those fake 12-0 years is in play (see 2015).  But I think they'll slip up at least twice anyway.

lhglrkwg

September 14th, 2021 at 10:34 AM ^

I think what we 'learned' from 2020 will ultimately be a mirage. Indiana and Iowa State played way above their historical norm, meanwhile Michigan and Penn State were turrible. All four of those teams look to be returning to their usual level. Iowa is good, but I think the Indiana and ISU wins will look a lot different in November than they do now

SecretAgentMayne

September 14th, 2021 at 10:27 AM ^

Iowa is probably good, but nothing special (par for the course Hawkeye squad). They're definitely overrated as per their current ranking IMO. Indiana appears to have come back down to Earth and I think ISU is probably pretty overrated too--neither team looked particularly impressive in the Cy-Hawk game last weekend.

WolverineHistorian

September 14th, 2021 at 10:10 AM ^

No complaints on the outcome for obvious reasons but I was not expecting Oregon to go into Columbus and do what they did.  Last week, the Ducks were tied with Fresno State and got the game winning score with 2 minutes left in the game on a 4th down and 2 from the 32 yard line. 

Yes, OSU's defense wasn't great against Minnesota but seeing how unimpressive Oregon was at home against Fresno State, I thought OSU would win some insanely offensive score like 63-30. 

Blau

September 14th, 2021 at 10:30 AM ^

I just don't think I'm ready to accept the OSU "taking a step back" mantra the media seems to spitballing at the moment. The issue with the likes of Bama, OSU, Clemson, UGA, etc.. is they have all the pieces there and will continue to have nice, new shiny pieces on the bench if needed.

Although I will say the B1G East looks decent with UM, PSU and even MSU looking serviceable. Maybe this is the year someone sneaks past them but I doubt they haven't fixed some of these issues by November.

Carpetbagger

September 14th, 2021 at 11:31 AM ^

It's hard to get a team as good as OSU or Alabama "up" for every game. There was a time where Alabama hadn't won a National Title without losing at least one game during the regular season.

I expect OSU will get those things that killed them Saturday cleaned up, and be just fine. In fact, the only film I would watch if I were Michigan would be how OSU has adjusted to what Oregon did to them. New cracks will have to be created.

canzior

September 14th, 2021 at 1:32 PM ^

Right...this.  This is not a talent issue obviously...but it's schematic.  I think there's been talk for years that OSU's defense is not complicated, and relies on out-athleting you.  There's been talk for years that their LBs are a liability and that hasn't changed as they've shuffled through 5 stars.  Say what you want about the "stars" they have in the secondary in the league, Okudah has been AWFUL, Eli Apple was named the Giants worst draft pick since 2006 by PFFhttps://giantswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/04/pff-names-eli-apple-worst-new-york-giants-draft-pick-since-2006/

Hooker, Arnette, Ward, Wade have all disappointed and have been cut/traded or will not be resigned by the teams that drafted them.  Not to say they aren't talented players, but I think it goes to show that the system OSU runs is heavily dependent on just being better than the man across from you and less about learning technique/intricacies in a system. So, if the players don't learn that to begin with, how do you try to teach it midseason?  We saw how that worked out for Don Brown last year.  

Also they don't have a dominant pass rush like they did with the Bosa's and Chase.  I don't think they are horrible but I definitely think it's a problem that won't get a proper solution until they fire Coombs, who is a fantastic recruiter.  Or they start bringing in guys who are better coaches, than recruiters...but will their recruiting suffer as a result?  Who knows.

 

 

ERdocLSA2004

September 14th, 2021 at 10:13 AM ^

From a relevancy standpoint, it’s gotta be MSU.  Decimated roster from Dantonio leaving, they were terrible last year despite beating us, lost a ton of guys to the portal, brought a ton of guys from the portal, yet somehow have looked very formidable.  All this despite subpar recruiting classes.  I hate them so much.