Big Ten QB Rankings: JJ No. 1, MSU's Kim No. 13

Submitted by BursleyHall82 on May 10th, 2023 at 11:44 PM

Football fodder in May - we'll take it. College Sports Wire is out with its ranking of the likely starters at quarterback for each Big Ten team. Lots of respect for JJ. Not so much for the new guy at MSU. The full list is interesting, which you can see HERE.

Don

May 11th, 2023 at 7:09 AM ^

“If the offense can get humming along, McNamara should be the catalyst that brings the unit into the 21st Century. He will just have to overcome an offensive coordinator who only has his job due to nepotism.”

Not sure the Iowa offense is ever going to “hum”—it’s more like a tuneless mumbling. 

Michwolveries21

May 10th, 2023 at 11:50 PM ^

The list:

 

  1. J.J. McCarthy, Michigan Wolverines
  2. Taulia Tagovailoa, Maryland Terrapins
  3. Kyle McCord, Ohio State Buckeyes
  4. Drew Allar, Penn State Nittany Lions
  5. Cade McNamara, Iowa Hawkeyes
  6. Tanner Mordecai, Wisconsin Badgers
  7. Hudson Card, Purdue Boilermakers
  8. Jeff Sims, Nebraska Cornhuskers
  9. Ben Bryant, Northwestern Wildcats
  10. Luke Altmyer, Illinois Fighting Illini
  11. Athan Kaliakmanis, Minnesota Golden Gophers
  12. Gavin Wimsatt, Rutgers Scarlet Knights
  13. Noah Kim, Michigan State Spartans
  14. Tayven Jackson, Indiana Hoosiers

oriental andrew

May 11th, 2023 at 11:18 AM ^

Adding in recruiting ratings (stars, rank, class per 247):

  1. J.J. McCarthy, Michigan Wolverines (4*, #38, 2021)
  2. Taulia Tagovailoa, Maryland Terrapins (4*, #180, 2019)
  3. Kyle McCord, Ohio State Buckeyes (4*, #49, 2021)
  4. Drew Allar, Penn State Nittany Lions (5*, #3, 2022)
  5. Cade McNamara, Iowa Hawkeyes (4*, N/A, 2019; On3 says 4* and #278)
  6. Tanner Mordecai, Wisconsin Badgers (4*, N/A, 2018; On3 says 4* and #266)
  7. Hudson Card, Purdue Boilermakers (4*, #70, 2020)
  8. Jeff Sims, Nebraska Cornhuskers (3*, N/A, 2020; On3 says 4* and #261)
  9. Ben Bryant, Northwestern Wildcats (3*, N/A, 2018; On3 says 3* and #690)
  10. Luke Altmyer, Illinois Fighting Illini (4*, N/A, 2021; On3 says 4*, #243)
  11. Athan Kaliakmanis, Minnesota Golden Gophers 4*, N/A, 2021; On3 says 4*, #237)
  12. Gavin Wimsatt, Rutgers Scarlet Knights (4*, N/A, 2021; On3 says 4*, #268)
  13. Noah Kim, Michigan State Spartans (3*, N/A, 2020; On3 says 3* and #1050)
  14. Tayven Jackson, Indiana Hoosiers (4*, #237, 2022)

I used On3's rankings in a few places. 

If we were to order them based on recruiting rankings only, irrespective of year:

  1. Drew Allar 
  2. JJ McCarthy
  3. Kyle McCord
  4. Hudson Card, PU
  5. Taulia Tagovailoa
  6. Tayven Jackson, IU
  7. Athan Kaliakmanis, Minny
  8. Luke Altmyer, UIUC
  9. Jeff Sims, UNL
  10. Tanner Mordecai, UW
  11. Gavin Wimsatt, RU
  12. Cade McNamara
  13. Ben Bryant, NU
  14. Noah Kim

Basically, Allar is the only 5 star. 

Then group JJ, McCord, Card, and Tagovailoa

Then it's a traffic jam of Jackson, Kaliakmanis, Altmyer, Sims, Mordecai, Wimsatt, and McNamara, all ranked from 237 to 278. Rankings-wise, they're pretty interchangeable.

Then it's Bryant after a big gap

Then it's Kim after a big gap. 

Basically, Kim is the lowest rated starting QB in the Big Ten and it's not close.  I know recruiting rankings aren't everything, but msu has an uphill climb at the QB position. 

m9tt

May 11th, 2023 at 11:39 AM ^

If I'm doing this ranking, I'm inverting spots 3-8:

3. Jeff Sims

4. Hudson Card

5. Tanner Mordecai

6. Cade McNamara

7. Drew Allar

8. Kyle McCord

Anyone who has watched GA Tech the past few seasons knows that Jeff Sims is way too low on the actual list. If it turns out the problem was really the lack of talent/system around him (e.g., Jahmyr Gibbs) and Sims can stay healthy, that game in Lincoln looks far more daunting with an explosive dual threat at quarterback.

Sims is the only QB on that list after JJ or Taulia (other than maybe Drew Allar if he booms) that could be a legitimate difference-maker at the QB position and not just a run-the-offense guy.   

I also like Hudson Card more than most, and in Graham Harrell's air-raid offense, I think he has a chance to step in and have a really nice year at Purdue (who have spread guys already on the roster).

Allar and McCord are slotted behind Cade due to their lack of starting experience, with a slight edge given to Allar because he actually got game reps as a true sophomore last year, as opposed to McCord who has never taken a meaningful snap in his collegiate career.

 

oriental andrew

May 11th, 2023 at 12:17 AM ^

Rated highly on potential and the fact that osu consistently churns out all-world receivers. They still have Emeka Egbuka, Marvin Harrison Jr, and Julian Fleming. That's the top WR room in the conference, probably the country. 247 says that Harrison, Egbuka, and Fleming are the #1, #2, and #14 preseason WR's for 2023. They're going to make McCord look pretty good. 

 

wolve1972

May 11th, 2023 at 4:43 PM ^

People seem to forget that it was the UM offense that really controlled the game the last two years against a shitty OSU defense by not giving their offense the chances they had against other teams.

I look at OSU as having a top 5 offense and a high school defense and that's giving their horseshit defense a compliment. Damn near everybody moved the ball against them the last 3 to 4 years.