AP Poll, M moved up to #19

Submitted by Ezekiels Creatures on September 19th, 2021 at 6:25 PM

 

The number after team name is where they were ranked last week:

 

 

Durham Blue

September 19th, 2021 at 6:32 PM ^

I will contend in this young season that Michigan is better than 16 of the 18 teams ahead of them.  Georgia and Alabama are the two that would be ahead.

And I think the AP writers also want to hear Sparty whine about being ranked one spot below Michigan.

WayOfTheRoad

September 19th, 2021 at 7:22 PM ^

Not sure about the first part but the last part may be accurate. I'd actually put MSU ahead of UM right now in a simple spot swap. However, polls are a point of drama and ratings so it's entirely possible you're right.

As another poster mentioned, it's odd how the polls tend to be pretty much the same all the time...almost as if they're correlated in some basic sense and not at all independent. Crazy how that's always been the case.

So it's to early for me to argue where UM should be and I don't care after 3 games. I know that I'd put MSU ahead of us today if my vote counted.

Hail to the Vi…

September 19th, 2021 at 8:18 PM ^

I definitely don't want to give Sharty more respekt than they are owed, but they have disposed of all the opponents they've played the way a good team does: They have won at the line of scrimmage, they haven't turned it over, and they've played solid defense. The same way Michigan has disposed of the not very good teams we've faced.

It's definitely true that every team they have played is very bad, but they have also beat every one of them convincingly - not on weird, fluky stuff, which would lead you to believe perhaps they could be a bit of a paper tiger for a lack of better term. 

I think Michigan is going to have to play their best game of the year going into that matchup if they want to leave East Lansing with a W. I definitely think Michigan can win, but they are going to have to be very sharp, and match the intensity MSU brings into this game every year. Anything less, and I think Sparty has demonstrated they're good enough to beat any team in the B1G if they don't play a clean game. 

Hail to the Vi…

September 19th, 2021 at 9:59 PM ^

Western it seems most likely will make a bowl game. NIU is a question mark until we see how they perform in their conference schedule. 1-2 coming out of their non-conference schedule is about as much as they could have realistically asked for. 

Washington is just a team that severely underperformed out of the gates, but if they can get their act together they have the talent to be a bowl team this season. Honestly with them, it seems like they need to get their collective minds right, and if they can do that they can be a plausibly competitive team.

Michigan it seems like hasn't really had to strain to much to get to 3-0. I do think this team has another gear, but they are going to have to keep getting better if they are going to compete for a league title (Clemson, for example, may not have to get any better than they are now). It appears to me Michigan has the ingredients required to be a legitimate contender in the B1G, but I also don't think the non-conference schedule opponents really change the narrative much one way or another. Basically, they did what a good team should do to each of the opponents they played. If they want to win @Wisc, @MSU, @PSU and beat Ohio State I think Cade will need to develop his consistency and the defense needs to tighten up the susceptibility to chunk plays.

MaizeBlueA2

September 19th, 2021 at 10:23 PM ^

So has Michigan.

It's basically the same schedule, WTF are you talking about? 

W. Michigan is probably a small notch below Northwestern.

Miami is a small notch above Washington. I called them Washington with a better QB.

Youngstown St. and NIU are both TERRIBLE.

This is such a weird take when Michigan hasn't played anyone either. You're not making a point.

FSUBulldog

September 19th, 2021 at 7:57 PM ^

Why would you put Sparty ahead? Their body of work is not good. Northwestern is really bad. They just lost to Duke. Yeah the same Duke that lost to Charlotte. Youngstown St is well Youngstown st. Miami also is not good and hung in with MSU. Miami the week before went to the wire with App st. You just threw out a bad hot take. Maybe you should apply for 97.1 the ticket.

KBLOW

September 19th, 2021 at 10:21 PM ^

Is this sarcasm? It is right? It has to be. Maimi had no business being in the top 25 except that sports writers are too arrogant to admit their pre-season rankings are total BS. Michigan is one of the few top 25 teams who have beaten an opponent with a victory over a P5 team. Michigan has two with WMU (Pitt) and NIU (GaTech...yes, the same one that took Clemson to the wire). 

MSU has no such victories yet. 

Boomer519

September 19th, 2021 at 11:14 PM ^

Thank you, people seem to be just ignoring the fact just because of how badly Michigan best those teams they may actually be decent to OK competition. Also Washington was able to put up 52 in thier first win of the season on Saturday. It's always like that with this fanbase though, if Michigan beats anyone convincingly, the narrative is "well they aren't any good anyway" the way NU and Miami look I'd give the edge to Michigans schedule at the moment. 

Vote_Crisler_1937

September 19th, 2021 at 10:11 PM ^

I still think Tucker comes into the M vs MSU game far better prepared than Harbaugh. While it’s possible M is a much better team than I thought, I can’t shake the feeling that MSU is going to surprise a bunch of people this year and play at another level for the Michigan game. 
 

As good as this Michigan team might be, we haven’t seen them on the road yet. Harbaugh generally doesn’t do as well on the road, especially against competent teams. Harbaugh also doesn’t do well against teams that are close to equals and MSU might very well be that. 

DTOW

September 20th, 2021 at 9:50 AM ^

You're forgetting the Harbaugh rules for the people that want him gone:

1.  Claim he never wins any big games

2.  Identify multiple "big" games in the preseason that he absolutely must win

3.  If he wins those games they are no longer big games.  If he loses those games go back to claiming he doesn't win big games.

Don

September 20th, 2021 at 9:54 AM ^

"I still think Tucker comes into the M vs MSU game far better prepared than Harbaugh."

Tucker has coached exactly one game against Jim Harbaugh, and it was against a historically bad and dysfunctional Michigan team that began the season as one of the least experienced teams in the country, even before injuries and pandemic opt-outs further weakened the roster.

This is on top of the fact that Mel Tucker's entire head coaching career consists of 27 games total.

Jim Harbaugh has 222 games under his belt as head coach, including 64 in the NFL where he took his team to three NFC championship games and a berth in the Super Bowl.

I'm not one of those Michigan fans who automatically believes every year that MSU has no chance to compete with Michigan—I'm the opposite of that—but claiming that Mel Tucker will be "far better prepared than Harbaugh" is simply ridiculous.

snarling wolverine

September 19th, 2021 at 6:35 PM ^

It's funny how these two different sets of voters (the athletic department interns, er, "coaches" and the AP voters) manage to arrive at basically the same conclusions every week.  Michigan just happens to enter both polls at #25 last week and then coincidentally moved up six spots in each poll this week. 

Makes me wonder if a lot of these interns just call up the sportswriters and ask how they voted.

LSAClassOf2000

September 19th, 2021 at 7:04 PM ^

Here's the link to our page on the PollTracker, incidentally - LINK

It is not updated for the current poll as yet, but likely tomorrow, you'll be able to see which pollster ranked us where, if you are a sicko like me that level of detail intrigues you. 

The breakdowns for previous weeks are here, if you're curious.

xgojim

September 19th, 2021 at 7:06 PM ^

What is keeping Coastal Carolina in the top 25?  The only "Power 5" team on their schedule is non-Power Kansas, which they easily beat.  Otherwise, it looks like a MAC-like schedule at best such as their victory over Buffalo by 3 points.  Don't get it.

Ezekiels Creatures

September 19th, 2021 at 8:05 PM ^

Well, destiny is coming. They have 3 really tough games yet. If they win out they will probably be deserving of the playoffs. But turnovers were a huge factor against Iowa St. And I saw most of the Kent St game. The game was closer than the score indicates. So, I don't know about them winning those 3 games. Any of them. But they should all be great ones!

WayOfTheRoad

September 19th, 2021 at 7:16 PM ^

I'd move that top-25 around a lot but I've never cared about it this early in a season.

I'd have MSU ahead of UM with no major change but a swap in spot, UF ahead of OSU, CC back a few spots, ND back a few spots, Iowa and PSU ahead of Oklahoma.

That's about it but I'm not a stickler about polls this early. I actually don't think there should even be a preseason poll but that's a debate that's been had so I'll shut up now.