All contracts expire season-end 2021

Submitted by Mongo on November 10th, 2020 at 9:33 PM

This is feeling like a major shakeup is coming.  All contracts are set to expire at season end 2021 - Harbaugh, Brown, Gattis, and Manuel.  So will everyone be non-renewed and the entire enterprise will  be replaced ?   Very strange contract circumstances for a major program like Michigan. 

Frank Chuck

November 10th, 2020 at 11:13 PM ^

I still hope Harbaugh turns this around so I'm just letting this unfold without having a firm opinion. (Some of you are too young to remember Harbaugh's NFL nickname - Captain Comeback.)

And I'm also old enough to remember MGoBloggers wanted to fire John Beilein in January 2017. (Y'all remember that? No?) 

Btw, has someone done a genuine "FIRE HARBAUGH! thread (like the "FIRE BAKICH!" thread) for the reverse mojo?

maizenbluenc

November 11th, 2020 at 11:19 AM ^

Hawttakes to follow:

So back when we had the un-medicated Harbaugh, it seemed he had unbounded energy and was pushing everyplace. Then, after the 2016 game Warde, Sarah, someone put him on meds, and since he's been hidebound and un-creative, and also expect too much from today's QBs coming out of high school. (Add to that, the refs still hate him.)

This may be for the best for him health-wise - but I think the resulting coach would be better off in the NFL, where the players are more mature and skilled, and can run the hidebound complex system of precision and mature read / decision making he prefers.

This is said in some sort of sarcastic conspiracy theory way, but at the same time something changed, and the observation feels accurate.

Counterpoint: If you look at Brian Kelly's first seven seasons for example - excluding the fact they did not have an OSU gorilla blocking their way in 2012, and that season was vacated anyway - in hindsight, should they have fired Brian Kelly then?

Net: Harbaugh is class of '87 like me, so I root for him. However, it doesn't feel like the comeback is in him, or at the very least it is taking a very long time to show itself.

 

UofM Die Hard …

November 11th, 2020 at 12:59 PM ^

I dont know what that shit was in '17 about JB....stupidity....but to any bball observer who understands the game a bit knew JB had the strategy, just needed time and his guys. 

Thats the diff with this situation, to any fball observer who understands the game a bit, knows this is a total crap show of decisions and its been like that since ...what  2017?   All the data points show the downward trend and data dont lie.

 

1VaBlue1

November 11th, 2020 at 8:27 AM ^

That was Bo's worst team, by far, and it was due to injuries.  The hardest injury was Harbaugh's broken arm, which derailed the entire season.  The bowl game was barely - barely - lost to BYU, which claimed the National Championship on the strength of Michigan's name.  Michigan was the only big name, decent team they played that year, and it was the worst team in Bo's career.  BYU did not deserve that MNC...

KC Wolve

November 11th, 2020 at 10:20 AM ^

Username check... here is the problem with UM. Every freaking time, people bring up Bo. College football doesn't even remotely resemble what it was in 1984. Bo would get absolutely destroyed and fired in todays game. That doesn't make his history go away or less impressive. It just means that what Bo did in 1984 is completely irrelevant today and should have no bearing on what the current team does. Zero, zilch, nada. 

father fisch

November 11th, 2020 at 10:52 AM ^

To be fair, starting QB Jim Harbaugh's broken arm and our reliance on an untested backup killed the season. Coaches shouldn't  be fired for losses due to injury.

Now, a coach who cant win rivalry games, get the talent needed to run tour offense and defense, hire competent coaches, win a division, or a title? Sayonara...

UM Indy

November 10th, 2020 at 10:14 PM ^

The continued comments about letting this ride until the end of next year are tiresome. You just can’t have a lame duck coach in major college football for that amount of time. Can. Not. Happen. Hell, you can argue he’s already a lame duck. 

Bodybag

November 10th, 2020 at 10:41 PM ^

This is absolutely not the case here for Michigan’s fallen son. They won’t cut him mid season, and the morons who bring this up don’t have a concept of brand, perception, and how the real world works. Harbaugh may certainly be fired, and even then I think it’s legitimately a longshot for many reasons (Michigan man, Covid season, only one more year in contract, optics, etc). I’d wager a large sum of money he’s here next year regardless of the outcome this year barring an impossible 1-7 season. If he underperforms again next year, they won’t renew the contract. 
 

That is the absolute most likely scenario. Stop with these inane posts of situations that just won’t happen. 

1VaBlue1

November 11th, 2020 at 8:42 AM ^

First impressions die hard...  When he was first hired, he failed to do anything about the MSU-OSU-PSU being on the same home-away schedule.  He didn't vocally support the team after 2016 OSU; in fact, he censured Harbaugh and apologized for the post-game outburst that got him fined by the B1G.  He also censured Harbaugh after he replied to a few tweets that attacked his program from other coaches and ADs.  As for ND, it wasn't that he brought them back, it was how he brought them back.  He completely caved to whatever they wanted and gave them all the advantages.

Aside from that, and since the first couple of years, he's been a very good administrator and custodian of Michigan athletics.  The department runs smoothly and without complaint from athletes, coaches/staff, alumni and boosters, and fans.  There are no ugly PR incidents.  The football team has continued to be at the vanguard of reform (if you will) - medical facilities following the Purdue shit with Spieght, player transfers, social issues...  And he has made some outstanding coaching hires/renewals across the department.

I wasn't particularly impressed the first year, or two, but that's changed.  He has a steady hand, stays behind the scenes, and lets his coaches and teams speak for themselves - to a degree.  I don't think he has enough willpower or connections (ie: absolute power) to outright fire Harbaugh, but I wouldn't be too surprised if he negotiated some deal where JH walks away and everyone saves face.  I do have faith that he will do a far better job of hiring a new coach than either Martin or Brandon did.

kscurrie2

November 10th, 2020 at 11:01 PM ^

No one is getting a new contract during COVID.  That is the only reason his contract has not been announced or signed.  Too may layoffs to give someone a multi-million dollar contract.  He is not going anywhere.  We are stuck till he decides to leave.  The university will not fire him or force him out.

wolverine in the 216

November 11th, 2020 at 9:49 AM ^

This is most likely the reason that nothing was done since last March. Rolled the dice on waiting until Covid subsides and then make an announcement. And now we are in a mess. I don't see him getting fired and coming back in '21. But I guess there is a chance he and the University make a peaceful split.

Not sure people's opinion of Henson, but an interesting read.

https://gregghenson.com/harbaugh-out-at-michigan