With the 2nd pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, the Lions select?

Submitted by MinorforPresident on
Assumin Suh goes #1 overall to St.Louis what's your guess on who the Lions will take? Todd McShay is predicting Gerald McCoy (DL-Oklahoma). My personal guess is Eric Berry (S-Tennessee). But I'd really like to see them trade down and get two picks in the first round and address the OL and secondary.
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Blue Ninja

January 4th, 2010 at 12:00 PM ^

Thanks for reminding me Locker was returning. Stupid me for looking at ESPN's board and going by it. I still think St Louis may take a QB. Looking at the facts they won't take another DL this year, they're not going to take a RB nor is one worthy of #1 and I doubt they take Berry at #1(although he may be worth it). So that leaves a QB, OL or trade down. If they trade down the Lions will not get Roh. So in retrospect I think they take Okung or trade down.

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Callahan

January 4th, 2010 at 12:49 PM ^

1) I wouldn't assume that the Rams will take Suh. They might, but then they will have taken DLs three of the last four years. They desperately need a QB and for the money, they might take Bradford. 2) I like Berry. I hate to speak in cliches but he's a playmaker. He could fix a lot of the Lions defensive issues. There are a lot of DTs in this draft. After Suh, many of them are the same type of space-eaters. The trade down idea is obviously preferable. They could take a guy like Terrence Cody with the lower pick and get something else. I can't emphasize enough how awful it would be to take an offensive lineman. It's a weak OT class. Has anyone learned from the Jason Smith experience yet? If he isn't a Jake Long/Joe Thomas/Johnathon Ogden type, he's not worth a high pick. I should clarify that by "high pick" I mean "top 10-15." Any player taken that high should have a career arc of a pro bowler, and not just "he was the best guy at this position this year."

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JC3

January 4th, 2010 at 2:12 PM ^

I agree with those against safety-drafter, Delmas is a killing machine out there, so the Lions don't necessarily need to take another safety that early. I'd like to see them address the lines- the offensive line was in shambles and the defensive line couldn't generate any pressure.

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Huss

January 4th, 2010 at 3:57 PM ^

Just so you guys know, he's a plus-player at not only safety, but corner and as a nickle linebacker as well. He's the best safety prospect I've ever seen. His speed is Chris Johnson-ish, great tackler, extremely heady. To the guy who said he didn't see him make a whole lot of plays against Va Tech - take into account the fact that this guy still manages to rack up stats despite defenses completely ignoring whatever section he covers on the field. Him and Delmas would be so gravy in the secondary. Of course, that would all be a waste without a decent pass rush. You can get by with some pretty average players in the secondary if you can generate consistent pressure so...yeah. Ignore everything I just said and focus on Suh/McCoy.

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ShockFX

January 4th, 2010 at 6:01 PM ^

You can get by with some pretty average players in the secondary if you can generate consistent pressure so...yeah.
Michigan safety play the last two years disagrees with you. Average cornerback play, sure. Shitty safety play, heck no. Look what Toledo did in 2008, despite our DL wrecking their OL. You can help out a bad pass rush by blitzing if you have a good secondary. If you have a bad secondary, you are generally fucked. See Florida 2008 Cap One bowl. And finally, the problem with the 2008 Lions draft was taking Cherilious over Otah (ESPN kept calling Cherilious a "project", lol) and then taking Dizon over Henne or other players. Two reach picks in the first 2 rounds is so Lions-esque.

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hail2mich

January 4th, 2010 at 4:40 PM ^

They have to go with a lineman, on either side of the ball. I think the offense is actually decent if they can get an offensive line together. On the defensive side, a DT is the best option. Berry is a very good player, but the biggest problem with the team is the D-line. If the Lions can get a good defensive line who can get some pressure on the QB, then the secondary won't be exposed as it has all these years. Even if they draft a safety, the little pressure from the defensive line will leave the secondary out to dry. PLEASE DRAFT A LINEMAN!

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wishitwas97

January 4th, 2010 at 4:54 PM ^

the Lions should take either Gerald McCoy or Russell Okung. McCoy is just as good as Suh. McCoy is explosive, can put pressure up in the middle and is an underrated run stopper. Okung is a better LT prospect than Jason Smith who was taken at #2 overall by the Rams. Okung is athletic and is dominant in space. He would be a good replacement for Jeff Backus.

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OregonWolverine

January 4th, 2010 at 5:04 PM ^

Two things. First, as many posters have pointed out, trading down is not likely to be an option. Top 5 picks are booby prizes, since you have to pay way more for a player who statistically is only a little more likely to be a star. The number 2 pick has literally negative value for many teams. Second, none of us really has enough info to be able to say what the Lions should do. Barring the once-every-five-years freak like Calvin Johnson, only a well-run scouting organization has enough info about a given player to even estimate how well he'll turn out. And that is the crucially needed information, since the only draft strategy that works is to pick the best available football player who fits any significant need. This latter point seems to escape many fans; perhaps an example helps. Lets say you decide that the best way to build a defense is D-line first, cornerback second. When your time comes to pick, there's a guy who looks like a great corner, and another guy who plays DT but you don't like quite as well. Nonetheless, your priority is D-line, so you pick the DT. Next year, there's a great DT on your board, but you've already "filled" that position, so you take the lower-rated CB. Congratulations, you now have a less-talented team than if you'd just picked the best players when you had a chance. This kind of silliness is what got us, for instance, Gosder Cherilus and Jordon Dizon two drafts ago. Our biggest "needs" were a right tackle and cover-2 MLB, so who cares that there were much better players available at other positions with those picks, right? Last year, the Lions really needed strength up the middle, but all of those positions (OG, DT, MLB) were thin in that draft. So instead of forcing it, we picked good players at other positions instead, and got five starters, most of them apparently very good starters. That's what we need to do again - and again, and again.

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TTUwolverine

January 4th, 2010 at 7:45 PM ^

*sigh* The Lions need everything. Their defensive line is undersized (with the exception of Grady Jackson, who I believe is now 56 years old or something) and can't rush the passer. Their secondary is atrocious, with the exception of maybe Delmas (who can tackle but is still very shaky in pass coverage). Not to mention this team just cannot keep a quarterback upright. So what is most important? IMO, neither of the above is more important than the other, which is why the Lions should just take whoever is the most talented player available at one of those spots. I like the idea of trading down, but outside of Suh, no one in this draft will be worthy of moving up for. I couldn't tell you who is the best out of Berry, Okung, or McCoy since I am not a scout, but I wouldn't be upset with either of them. And as a side note, there is NO WAY the Rams pass up Suh, no matter how much money he wants, unless some team offers up all of their draft picks to get him. It won't stop me from praying for it, but its not going to happen.

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