TheDirtyD

April 26th, 2020 at 6:04 PM ^

Yeah I wasn't sure why you'd leave in a loaded WR draft class. I wish him the best of luck he always played hard and blocked for his teammates. He just needed to work on his route running and creating separation. 

Gulogulo37

April 26th, 2020 at 7:17 PM ^

Also I feel it hasn't really been mentioned much but even though he didn't miss many games, he missed all of last spring with injuries. I also thought I remember him being injured for good bits of spring or fall camp before. Seemed his hamstrings were always in question. I just wonder how that factors into not developing that much. But if you've missed like half your off-season practices in your career... 

Blau

April 26th, 2020 at 10:08 PM ^

This is so depressing to type given our current circumstances within football but your statement is highly debatable at best.
 

I believe Mayfield and Patterson are better suited for minigolf than any game that involves having to throw a pointy ball.

GhostofJermain…

April 27th, 2020 at 7:26 AM ^

Maybe some others can give this story more juice, but I'm hearing from ex-players and people close to the program that there was some major friction between DPJ/Black and JH...  I believe Magnus mentioned something about this, but the Detroit guys were all sitting around and getting more and more pist off when DPJ&Vert were not getting drafted.  Apparently, it's their opinion that JH may have helped sink DPJ draft stock, and considered both Wideouts to be diva's and not serious about their craft.  The guys went on to say DPJ and others were pissed they went from JM as a WR coach to a GA, and 3 coaches in as many years.  Might of just been the emotions of the situation, however being present for this, it felt like much more...

Cheers

JPC

April 27th, 2020 at 10:06 AM ^

It's hard to get every position coaching spot covered with a first time OC and a (now) hands off CEO type coach.

Offensive Guru Harbaugh has morphed into Herm Edwards.

CFraser

April 26th, 2020 at 6:06 PM ^

It’s up to him. Play well and get the (all important regardless) 2nd contract. Everyone says development is a reason, but he was taken in a round where they know that’s an issue and plan to develop him. NFL coaches know what they’re doing, for the most part.

iMBlue2

April 26th, 2020 at 6:08 PM ^

Perception is a funny thing...people can fool themselves into thinking they are something they’re not or not yet.  I’d say based on the perception of 32 NFL coaches/ front offices he should’ve stayed and would have gone higher next year.

DairyQueen

April 27th, 2020 at 1:05 AM ^

His 44" vertical leap was in the Top-10 in NFL history. That's amazing. And then he posted a 139-inch broad, best in the entire 2020 combine, and 3rd of any NFL WR ever.

Jeff Okudah also ran a 4.48, and DPJ jumped almost half a foot higher, and jumped 1/3 of a foot farther.

His biggest problem is that he's a long strider (similar to Devin Funchess), and he's long-legged, which means he takes a while to get up to speed.

And with longer strides, means fewer steps per distance traveled which makes your route running much less sudden (think Lionel Messi's abnormally stubby legs allow him far more touches/changes of direction per 10yds traveled).

All that being said DPJ can still develop, he certainly didn't walk into a great QB situation or OC Offensive identity. His QB never could hit the deep ball and routinely overthrew him. Not to mention he was a run-threat/improv QB, and the coach wanted a hard-nosed power/quantity-running game.

I would love nothing more than to see him develop and find a system where he can really utilize his traits. His measureables are amazing, it can't be understated.

 

Hail-Storm

April 27th, 2020 at 1:22 PM ^

He was decent on punt returns though, so I think he could be quick enough and agile enough to be a good to great route runner.  I wonder if he put in the time with Shea to get a chemistry.  Shea had a lot of short comings, as others have mentioned, on going through the progressions and stepping into the pocket. I still expected to see domination of DPJ against bad competition.

Sten Carlson

April 26th, 2020 at 8:44 PM ^

New OC who had elite receivers but didn’t prioritize throwing down the field.

You’re like a pit bull latching on to a bone (meme) and never letting it go!  How do you know what Gattis’ priorities were or are.  To know that, you’d have to be sitting in film study with the offense and be privy to his conceptual explanations and his breakdown of individual plays.

Was he telling Shea NOT to throw down field, or was Shea simply NOT throwing it down field (as much as you think) he should?  Truth is, you don’t know, you’re making an assumption.  My assumption, by contrast, assumes that Gattis (as an aggressive “modern” OC) wants to throw downfield as much as anyone save an “Air Raid” OC, and he was hampered by Shea’s lack of arm strength, accuracy, and RPO prowess.  

Lakeyale13

April 26th, 2020 at 9:13 PM ^

What we all did see was Shea's inability to connect with open receivers 20+ yards down the field.  That surely took away from DPJ's numbers and had to be a bit demoralizing when running your routes.  Then mix in McCaffrey coming in (right or wrong seen as a strong runner but unknown ability as a passer), and it doesn't seem to be the most ideal situation for DPJ.  Still, dude should have come back.

Durham Blue

April 26th, 2020 at 10:25 PM ^

And Shea not connecting on the deep balls at a high enough rate probably forced Gattis to tweak the offense toward fewer deep balls not only for DPJ but all WRs.  Play calling is probably pretty dynamic both in-game and from game to game.

We need to catch lightning in a bottle with the QBs vying for the starting job.  It would be really nice to see a vertical threat again that doesn't involve Nico fighting for 50-50s every damn time.  I just re-watched the LSU-Clemson replay last night on ESPN and was just in awe of both offenses.  Trevor Lawrence had a bad game by his standards but it was still better than we've seen from any Michigan QB in years.  And Joe friggin' Burrow was unbelievable.  But both QBs are helped by well schemed and timed plays and guys that have speed to burn and understand how to get open and get YAC.  Smart, savvy football all around.

JPC

April 27th, 2020 at 9:41 AM ^

Don't oversell Wilton. He was good his first season but he was almost O'Korn bad his second. Something in the coaching broke him and there's no reason to think he'd be good in a third year as a starter.

Larry Appleton

April 26th, 2020 at 6:13 PM ^

Magnus hinted on his site that DPJ was unhappy on the team.  

Maybe he thinks he should have been more involved in the offense.  Look, I get that he's got all the physical attributes, but too often he just was not getting open, and pro scouts have made such comments.

I wish him well and hope he finds success.

Streetchemist

April 26th, 2020 at 6:33 PM ^

Some posts from insiders on 247 alluded to similar things. They said he tanked his draft interviews which lowered his stock with a lot of teams. I don’t know what he said but if true he didn’t really make the wrong decision.  He’s probably a round 3/4 pick without and that’s probably where he was told he would likely go. 

Gulogulo37

April 26th, 2020 at 7:14 PM ^

Given that he's thought of as a high character guy it's surprising. I'm not saying he's not! NFL teams sometimes ask really stupid questions and seem to be offended by dumb stuff. But I wonder if he put quite a bit of blame on Harbaugh and company instead of personal shortcomings. I'd imagine teams wouldn't like that.

Durham Blue

April 26th, 2020 at 10:34 PM ^

When interviewing for a new job and you are asked why you want to change jobs, it's never a good idea to say "because my former employer sucked".  It may be 100% true but it just makes you look bad.  People respect and trust you more when you point out what you could've done better to improve things.  Interviewing 101.

dragonchild

April 27th, 2020 at 9:28 AM ^

Interviewing 101, this is definitely true.  Interviewing 501, not so much.  The difference is that most complaints about one's last job boil down to "I don't like working".

DPJ might have a point in whatever he said (we don't know what he said), but if he had anything critical to say about Harbaugh, his inability to consistently get open makes it far less compelling.

CalifExile

April 26th, 2020 at 6:13 PM ^

Maybe he was ready to get the NFL part of his life started so he could get it out of the way and move on to being a doctor. Different people place different values on different things.