247 Composite Ranks UM 35th with 14 Commits - Not Bad
We jumped 36 spots today to #35 on 247 Composite. Not bad for 14 players and no effective recruiting for 3 months (Oct, Nov, Dec)
Florida the only real comparable jumped 46 spots to #20 today but has 21 recruits. The two 5 stars they landed helped. They had room for another 6 more slots I believe (27 total), we had room for 1 more. They had a coach who at least could sell a future in October and hired new coach first week of December so really only had a 1 month blackout window (November) of recruiting - we had 3.
All in all a victory - was shooting for low 30s with 15-16 commits a month ago; we got to mid 30s with 14.
HARBAUGH.
Data: http://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
February 4th, 2015 at 4:08 PM ^
McElwain and Harbaugh should pat themselves on the back a little bit. That's some scrappy recruiting.
February 4th, 2015 at 4:30 PM ^
8 commits in three weeks. Six flips. Is that right?
February 4th, 2015 at 4:36 PM ^
que correctamundo Samuel L Jackson image.
February 4th, 2015 at 4:09 PM ^
February 4th, 2015 at 4:23 PM ^
Actually we're at about 18th overall for average player ranking. Our classes is around 35 due to the fact that our class is really small this year (there aren't any other classes with less than 18 commits in the top 50)
February 4th, 2015 at 4:15 PM ^
| Team | Total | 5 | 4 | 3 | Avg | Rank by Average |
| Alabama | 24 | 6 | 14 | 4 | 93.72 | 1 |
| USC | 24 | 4 | 14 | 6 | 93.45 | 2 |
| Florida State | 20 | 4 | 10 | 6 | 92.46 | 3 |
| UCLA | 20 | 3 | 12 | 5 | 92.09 | 4 |
| Auburn | 27 | 1 | 18 | 8 | 90.57 | 5 |
| Notre Dame | 24 | 0 | 14 | 10 | 90.25 | 6 |
| Ohio State | 27 | 1 | 14 | 11 | 90.06 | 7 |
| LSU | 25 | 2 | 11 | 10 | 89.98 | 8 |
| Texas A&M | 25 | 3 | 11 | 11 | 89.86 | 9 |
| Tennessee | 29 | 1 | 15 | 12 | 89.78 | 10 |
| Georgia | 28 | 2 | 11 | 15 | 89.65 | 11 |
| Clemson | 25 | 3 | 9 | 11 | 89.48 | 12 |
| Texas | 29 | 1 | 13 | 14 | 89.46 | 13 |
| Penn State | 25 | 0 | 13 | 12 | 89.05 | 14 |
| Oklahoma | 24 | 0 | 10 | 14 | 88.83 | 15 |
| Oregon | 22 | 1 | 6 | 15 | 88.72 | 16 |
| Ole Miss | 22 | 0 | 7 | 15 | 88.64 | 17 |
| Michigan | 14 | 0 | 6 | 8 | 87.82 | 18 |
| Mississippi State | 28 | 0 | 7 | 21 | 87.67 | 19 |
| Arizona State | 20 | 0 | 7 | 13 | 87.67 | 20 |
| Michigan State | 21 | 0 | 5 | 16 | 87.66 | 21 |
February 4th, 2015 at 4:22 PM ^
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February 4th, 2015 at 4:33 PM ^
Stand by for roster management techniques to be employed. With 27 recruits, osu is 7 over the scholly limit of 85.
February 4th, 2015 at 11:32 PM ^
I believe the B1G requires a coaching staff to provide evidence of attrition if they oversign. As of right now there are a couple of players that are likely to end their carrer due to injury: Armani Reeves (multiple concussions) and Devan Bogard (3rd ACL tear in 3 seasons).
February 5th, 2015 at 9:09 AM ^
February 4th, 2015 at 4:32 PM ^
the next highest ranked team with as many (few) recruits as Michigan was Pitt at 62nd. UM did very well today.
February 4th, 2015 at 4:36 PM ^
February 4th, 2015 at 4:37 PM ^
I would only think it is problematic for schools like Tennessee that has 3 (!) QBs in the class and I think has signed classes of around 30 the last two seasons. Then again, when recruits visit a school, they aren't meeting with the kids who were cut or taking medicals.
February 4th, 2015 at 4:50 PM ^
Here is what happened
- Very bad 2010 class followed by below par 2011 class leading to...
- Very big 2012 and 2013 classes of over 50 scholarships combined...
- Very little attrition thus far out of 2012 and 2013 putting us just under 50 spots allocated..
- ...leading to just over 35 spots open for 2014 + 2015 classes...
- ...plus you are giving 3 scholarships to walk ons, Glasgow brothers and Kerridge
So basically you are splitting low 30s scholarships into the the 2014 and 2015 classes.
We are very unbalanced from class to class.
That does not excuse how Tennesse has 104 recruits in the past 4 classes and OSU something like 99 (someone else calculated it earlier).
But our low # is a combination of a # of things. Even more amazing was that if Ferns Bosch and Funchess had stayed AND we did not have the 3 fifth year seniors depart this class would have been 8 people. (9 spots)
February 4th, 2015 at 6:07 PM ^
My response is that our previously large class sizes have nothing to do with. Our retention has everything to do with it.
We signed only 14 kids this year, only 16 last year. You may argue that we signed 27 in 2013 and 25 in 2012. Well, guess what, Ohio State signed exactly the same number of kids in 2012 and 2013 and their class size this year was 27 and last year was 27. That's 24 MORE RECRUITS IN THE PAST FOUR YEARS that they have to work with compared to us, and 30 MORE OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS. Let that sink in. Over the past five years, Ohio State has had 30 more scholarship players than us in their system. That's more than a full starting lineup's worth of players. They've signed 132 players during that window; we've signed 102.
I looked back over the past five years, and Notre Dame has signed 16 more kids than us. Penn State, which supposedly got the death penalty at some point in that window, has signed eight more kids than us since 2011.
Michigan State is the only one of our rivals who appears to playing on a level playing field, with only two more players than us since 2011.
This is a major, major competitive disadvantage for us.
February 4th, 2015 at 6:31 PM ^
Well I was only speaking to Michigan's history and how it hapened; I can't speak to other schools as I dont know their players or history. And I'd say 5 years is far more difficult to compare school to school due to 5th year seniors, etc. A lot more oranges to apples in 5 years versus 4. A school with a bunch of RS SRs like Wisconsin and MSU will look very different than a school like OSU. So I'd stick to 4 years.
I just looked at Nebraska over 4 years and they had 88 guys on scholarship. Which makes plenty of sense when you account for any guys who leave the program, have legal trouble, permanent injury etc. I think 88-92 makes sense over 4 years. Once you get mid 90s and higher you have to question what is going on.
I just looked at Wisconsin and they are at 80 - which again makes sense, it looks like some walk ons took scholarships there too based on that #.
Without looking at every single scholarship player - when they arrived, when they left - at programs like OSU and TN it would be difficult to figure out what is going on there. Maybe someone like Seth wants to do that sort of project - I have enough hands full with UM stuff. It would be especially telling about OSU since they are our #1 rival.
February 4th, 2015 at 4:17 PM ^
Does it a little bit different, as far as their "average grade" goes, we're at about #20. Marginally higher average than MSU, Wisconsin, and Nebraska
February 4th, 2015 at 4:23 PM ^
18th.
February 4th, 2015 at 4:40 PM ^
but once you consider the Harbaugh factor (add one star to everyone), we're actually 1st above Alabama's 4.0 average.
Go Blue!
February 4th, 2015 at 6:05 PM ^
And take out the kicker and we are marginally higher yet.
February 4th, 2015 at 4:13 PM ^
I'll totally take that.
February 4th, 2015 at 4:16 PM ^
And only team in top 50 with less than 18 commits.
Avg stars of 3.5 is tied for 12th with LSU and Texas.
So, while likely not the most impactful class due to size, it's not a killer in that quality (avg stars) is on par with where we've been and in the realm where teams should be very competitive. Presumably, Harbaugh will crank it up a notch or two next year.
February 4th, 2015 at 4:20 PM ^
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February 4th, 2015 at 4:21 PM ^
Incredible, considering this staff had weeks, rather than months or years, and was largely limited to flipping committed players. I'd honestly give the outcome A-.
February 4th, 2015 at 4:22 PM ^
Great job getting so many great kids to flip.
I love the Washington pick up, he looks like he could be a special player.
February 4th, 2015 at 4:26 PM ^
another 6 or so 2016 commits. Keep 'em coming. Michigan is a great place with great opportunity.
February 4th, 2015 at 4:28 PM ^
Better luck next year!
February 4th, 2015 at 4:28 PM ^
February 4th, 2015 at 4:29 PM ^
Nice foot in the door for next year.
February 4th, 2015 at 4:29 PM ^
Any thoughts/insights on how we use the last schollie? Or is going to Wayne Lyons?
If not do we: Look for another transfer, give it to a walk-on, bank it...?
February 4th, 2015 at 8:04 PM ^
Supposedly, there's a grad transfer CB from Stanford who may be available and a TE from Oklahoma.
There's also Roquan Smith.
February 4th, 2015 at 4:29 PM ^
February 4th, 2015 at 4:43 PM ^
Actually, looking at the list right now, if you add one of the Clark/Weber/Jefferson trio to the list I would be pretty damn happy. I am most disappointed with Clark.....he would have clearly benefitted the most from UM/Harbaugh. He reminded me of the kid who passes over the smart, funny, cute girl for the hot chick who dumps him after a few weeks. You see it coming but just can't keep him from making the wrong choice. Well, Jake Butt for two years eases that a bit.
Weber hurt a bit as I truly believe the kid will regret the decision and won't see the playing field like he would of at UM.
February 4th, 2015 at 5:00 PM ^
February 4th, 2015 at 5:19 PM ^
There is no way that Weber's decision was based on the fact Higdon signed with Michigan. You walk away from Michigan because there is another, lower-rated back in the class? To go to OSU where the pre-season favorite for the Heisman is in the backfield, and the No. 1 RB recruit for 2016 has already pledged? Not to mention the other guys knocking around that roster? No, that remark (if said) is just a way to justify the decision, which appears to have been made because OSU has been winning, and Weber was unsure when Michigan would begin winning--if you believe the quotes attributed t him by the News.
February 4th, 2015 at 5:26 PM ^
February 4th, 2015 at 6:09 PM ^
Weber has wanted to be the only running back in his class throughout his recruitment. He was trending OSU over the summer and was spooked off by the interest of Damien Harris. After that he was leaning to MSU and out of nowhere LJ Scott commited there and that is when he came Michigans way. When Scott commited to MSU, Weber actually tweeted something out acknowledging his surprise. Nothing wrong with wanting to be the only back but make NO mistake this was the case. As to OSU having more competition in the backfield this is false. E. Elliot is 100% gone after this year, and the Kareem Walker kid is a class of 2016 recruit, so basically Weber will sit behind Elliot one year, and only have to beat out Samuel to start as a sophmore. There is nothing wrong with Weber wanting to be the only back in his class but anyone pretending Weber didnt prioritize it is wrong.
February 4th, 2015 at 7:42 PM ^
He has as much chance to beat out samuel as I do.
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February 4th, 2015 at 11:21 PM ^
I feel really good about this class. I think in hearing coach's comments, we got a batch of young men who will be dedicated players. Better to not have lukewarm or wishy washy types like Clark and Weber. GoBlue.
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