2016 4* Cass Tech OL/DL Michael Onwenu - Leaning towards Michigan
OSU was his previous favorite, but the Weber situation seems to have changed that. He's the #3 in-state prospect for the 2016 class.
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2015/03/michigan_makes_up_serious_grou.html
March 10th, 2015 at 10:58 AM ^
I don't think it's just coincidence. Ohio State has legitimately out-recruited us for those guys, with the possible exception of Alabi. Michigan went really hard after Webb and Weber, and Ohio State got them, anyway.
March 10th, 2015 at 12:05 PM ^
March 10th, 2015 at 12:15 PM ^
I agree, but that's not what you were saying above. You said:
"Is it just coincidence that they're getting guys during years where we have 15 or fewer spots?"
The answer is no, it's not just a coincidence. There are other reasons, like the ones you point out in this post.
March 10th, 2015 at 12:49 PM ^
March 10th, 2015 at 10:51 AM ^
Just win baby.
March 10th, 2015 at 11:13 AM ^
March 10th, 2015 at 11:32 PM ^
He's a surly, swarmy and slimey winning coach. Sludge eventually slides to the bottom, while positive/optomistic guys like Harbaugh tend to rise to the top. And, if they're especially intense, with razor sharp focus and limitless energy, like JH, they jet to the top and swim a victory lap.
March 10th, 2015 at 11:35 AM ^
bc theyve been a much better team than um for decades.
and while recent cass tech kids have struggled at um, the younger classes see players winning rings at osu and then signing pro contracts at higher clip than um
March 10th, 2015 at 11:51 AM ^
In the 1990's, we beat them 7 out of 10 times, with one tie. Granted, we've only beat them 3 times since then, but to say they've been the better program for "decades" is completely false.
March 10th, 2015 at 12:22 PM ^
ok, a decade and a half, 15 years.
post-cooper, it has not been very pretty - and thats certainly amplified considering current and near-future prospects only recall a struggling um / powerhouse osu dynamic - they werent alive in 97.
guess my exaggeration stemmed from what seemed like very simple answer to the initial question of why top prospects are flocking to osu - meyer started with strong foundation (not to mention all his previous success) yet has still only lost a handful of games while winning one of more impressive national titles in recent memory.
i cant stand osu or meyer - but i refuse to ignore the obvious. theyve been better for a long time, 15 yrs - and recruits who want to win rings or go pro, even those at cass tech, see very promising option at osu. now hopefully harbaugh changes all that. it wont be easy but i believe its possible (though i mentioned 2 yrs ago um / hoke / brandon allowed meyer to build up too much of head start) - and if anyone can turn around um its harbaugh
March 10th, 2015 at 11:52 AM ^
Better than U of M for decades? Not really. Only since the early 2000's.
March 10th, 2015 at 12:37 PM ^
"Does anybody know exactly how in the hell OSU got a foothold in Cass Tech anyways? "
Have you watched UM football the last 7 years? (It was rhetorical)
Being "old guys" I think us folks in the 40+ category have to realize the average teenager right now doesnt know anything about UM being very good. Their "sports watching life" (which for most kids is like 8 years old forward) has been all about OSU, Wisconsin, and MSU being the alpha dogs of the conference other than 1 year. For the 17 year old HS senior out there, 2006 (the last year UM really looked great deep into the season) was when he was 8 years old.
March 10th, 2015 at 10:22 AM ^
If Harbaugh wants him, then I don't care if he plays as a 300 lb cornerback. It is important to prevent the best players from the state of Michigan from signing with OSU. If a highly rated in-state recruit does not pick Michigan (if offered), I would rather they pick MSU, than OSU. At least that way they would still be in the state.
March 10th, 2015 at 11:02 AM ^
OSU/Cass Tech is coming to a close, mark my words. The Weber thing was just the tip of the iceberg. Just wait until Alabi gets cut/medicaled...
March 10th, 2015 at 11:08 AM ^
More like, just wait until 'The Harbaugh' takes effect and we start taking down MSU and OSU on the regular.
Wilcher said some nice things recently to cool things down because it is good for the school and his kids in the future to be seen as "putting his kids first' with respect to recruiting. I doubt very much that his view of OSU and Meyer has changed a bit since his comments shortly after the Weber situation blew up. Wilcher and CT kids obviously benefit from the close relationship with UM and with Harbaugh in place the coaching comparison will be a better sell as well.
March 10th, 2015 at 11:20 AM ^
March 10th, 2015 at 11:50 AM ^
March 10th, 2015 at 12:00 PM ^
First of all, Thomas Gordon was a decent product. And so is Jourdan Lewis, not to mention some guys who have yet to get much of a chance (Delano Hill, David Dawson). So you're wrong.
March 10th, 2015 at 12:33 PM ^
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March 10th, 2015 at 12:42 PM ^
Other stuff.
The truth is, I got distracted by lunch and just posted where I was.
March 10th, 2015 at 12:04 PM ^
Detroit has been good for us, and Cass now seems to get all of the top Detroit prospects. I agree that things haven't historically been great with the way Cass players develop, but we would be absolutely dumb to neglect it
March 10th, 2015 at 12:08 PM ^
Some of the power might be shifting to King. Their 2016 class is pretty strong.
March 10th, 2015 at 12:08 PM ^
The best corner on the team JLewis disagrees with you.
I see a lot of people dimissing the Cass Tech program...but I'll take a Jourdan Lewis every few years and throw a party. That kid is the real deal.
March 10th, 2015 at 12:29 PM ^
disagree. there have not been many but michigan needs to recruit the top handful of midwest kids (including in backyard detroit / michigan) every single year regardless, its their base. they lack the numbers in their backyard unlike most other major programs which almost all have huge local recruiting bases. its vital, even if theyre not gamebreakers, just from roster management standpoint.
some have been decent recently and some have failed to produce. jourdan lewis, if he continues any sort of upward trajectory, will get serious looks as nickel DB in the pros - thats not like usc / cali schools but its certianly not nothing
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This is t to degrade Cass tech, it's merely a statement of fact. They aren't a don Bosco prep or a st Thomas aquinas.
Thomas Gordon and David Dawson have not disappointed me.
"So from where I'm standing, if osu wants to waste a scholarship on what has PROVEN to be garbage program the I say "let em""
That's what you call a garbage program? The program that sends numerous kids to FBS schools every single year, won a couple state championships in a row, and went to the state title game again in 2014 (where they lost to Saline)?
I'm going to stop short of calling you dumb, but this is certainly a dumb comment.
March 10th, 2015 at 10:46 PM ^
SMH. I didn't say they were good. You said that every player from there has been a disappointment, and those are at least two guys who have not made an impression yet. I have also mentioned others in this thread, but you have chosen to ignore those as well.
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