This Week's Obsession: What Could Possibly Go Wrong? Comment Count

Seth

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Greg Davis is drawing up a zone read, so he can't be a candidate at least

The Question:

Seth: How does Michigan screw this one up?

Adam:

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or

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Either of those would be a swift kick to the searchbits; otherwise I'm optimistic about the search (both process and outcome). This may lead to me posting a bunch of Gob Bluth clips on Twitter, but I don't think Michigan screws this up.

[After the jump: more all too realistic scenarios in which Michigan decides we need more mediocrity and stupid.]

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BiSB: The path to another Process is pretty clear. Michigan thinks it has a really good shot at Harbaugh, so they wait until the NFL season wraps up. It's the beginning of January before the Jets or the Raiders manage to snatch Harbaugh away. By that time, any top tier head coaches who are currently employed have leveraged their "interest" in Michigan into a renewal and a pay raise, including a prohibitive buyout. Hot assistant names like Tom Herman have either done likewise, or have been snatched up by Oregon State-level jobs, or they just don't want to take the risk of having to assemble a rushed transition and a first recruiting class in three weeks. Michigan is left with the unemployed (Schiano), the mediocre but accessible (Addazio), or the uninspiring NFL types (Jay Gruden, Teryl Austin).

And that's why I don't buy this "Harbaugh has already told Michigan 'no' and Michigan has moved on" mumbo jumbo. I have no idea what the odds are that Harbaugh lands in Ann Arbor, but this search looks VERY different if Michigan's primary candidate is available right now as opposed to, say, December 29th.

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Seth: This is Michigan and a coaching search.

1. A bad hire. Once they're into the second tier of candidates whose voice gets heard? They've got Mike DeBord in the room, and names leaking out have had a DeBordian flavor. You're worried Tom Herman gets snatched up; I'm worried Michigan won't even look at him.

I doubt DeBord is looking for the same things I am. [Lon Horwedel, Ann Arbor News, 2006 spring practice]

I really don't care if Michigan hires a spread guy; I want success and the greatest offensive innovation since timing routes to a quarterback's footwork is having most of it in college football right now. The reason I keep banging this drum is I'm terrified that Michigan has a religious problem with it. The few folks on the search committee whose opinions are known seem to think Rodriguez failed at Michigan because his approach to scoring was evil, not because his staff feuded, or because he hired GERG to run a defense he doesn't know, or because he thought he could get Dorsey in, or because he was being hatcheted from inside.

2. An ugly transition. The football bust showed a lot of love for Brady Hoke and I'm reminded of what a great job he did walking in without Rodriguez's guys walking out.

3. They could screw up the assistants. This was the big failure of the last two hires; have they learned? Rodriguez needed a defensive coordinator like Casteel who got along with his staff, and whom he trusted. And he could have definitely used a Carr guy on the defensive staff to smooth out the transition. Hoke doomed himself by hiring Borges and committing to an unnecessary offensive transition. Do not repeat competencies again.

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Brian:

1. Michigan could hire a guy with zero resume because he's a pro-style coach. With guys like Marcus Ray on the "search committee" you have dyed-in-the-wool luddites giving their opinion—Ray recently said that the spread was for warm weather schools, apparently ignorant of Urban Meyer's existence. Names like Schiano and Addazio only get brought up by people who are insistent that football ended in 1997. Either would be a very poor idea.

2. Michigan could hire a guy with zero resume because he's been to Ann Arbor before. Teryl Austin, Harold Goodwin, Mike Trgovac: all names no one would ever bring up if they did not have a connection to Michigan. If Michigan had a shot at hypothetical versions of Jim Harbaugh or Les Miles with no M connections, you would still be interested. First-year coordinators and NFL position coaches would not merit a look. That would be the ultimate failure: repeating the same process that led to hiring Brady Hoke. 

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Not a great idea.

3. Michigan could hire Les Miles. "He's a young 61!"

/shoots self

Look: we want to get away from factionalism. We want to have everyone pulling in the same direction. Les Miles is and will be divisive. There will be people looking to torpedo him at the first sign of weakness. That sucks, but it's true. Imagine if people had legitimate beefs with Rich Rodriguez. Yeah.

Miles's success at LSU is not likely to translate to Michigan; it's built off of insane local talent that makes his defenses crazy good every year without a whole lot of Narduzzi-style scheming. His offenses have mostly been poop, and he's won an inordinate number of games with crazy Mad Hatter stuff. His clock management is atrocious; his "roster management" is worse. The way he wins at LSU is by ignoring their copious bagmen—goodbye, Jai Eugene—and tapping a local talent base that almost any coach could.

And if Michigan hired him you're not getting that guy who won a lot of SEC games anyway. You're getting an aging version of him. The upside is a few 9-3 years and then retirement; the downside is another wasted transition featuring Michigan people sniping at each other in private, then public. There is only one Bill Snyder, and when the petals come off the Miles rose it's going to be ugly.

I know I'm in the minority here. I strongly prefer catching someone on the upside to trying to squeeze out a few decent years from a guy heading towards social security.

Comments

BlueinLansing

December 10th, 2014 at 12:28 PM ^

in the Miles Minority.

 

Unless Miles brings with him a legitimate successor who can't fail, 5-7 years of maybe ok to good football, with all the things Brian mentioned followed by our 4th head coaching search in 15 years is not worth it.

Skapanza

December 10th, 2014 at 1:24 PM ^

Only way I would want Miles is with a Herman or Frost-style OC/heir apparent. More rough transitions will continue to put UM behind the 8-ball of the OSUs of the world. I dunno how you sell a Herman or Frost on the idea of being coach-in-waiting for a crazy guy, but this is my hypothetical and I make the rules.

bronxblue

December 10th, 2014 at 2:04 PM ^

I guess the issue there is that Miles doesn't strike me as the type of guy who is going to bring in innovative, top-notch assistants - he really hasn't done so at LSU as far as I'm concerned, at least not guys you are dying to have.  If he comes to Michigan, he'll bring some of his own guys, maybe keep Nuss because WTF he doesn't care about the offense anyway, and that'll be it.

UMaD

December 10th, 2014 at 1:22 PM ^

Brian's takedown of Miles is excellent, and I fully agree.  But the concern goes way beyond 'bagmen' of the south and extends to all the issue brought up in the SI expose on cheating at OSU under Miles.

"Subsequent installments of the investigative piece allege that there also was widespread academic misconduct involving the football program, that the program tolerated recreational drug use, and that members of a hostess program had sex with recruits."

"a de facto bonus system based on performance on the field; direct payments to players from boosters and coaches independent of performance; and no-show and sham jobs -- including work related to the renovation of Boone Pickens Stadium -- that involved at least one assistant coach and several boosters."

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9657658/report-oklahoma-…

Then there's other rumors floating around the web of PEDs and crime cover-ups.

None of this is proven but there is a whole lot of smoke around Miles...

Miles is the worst case scenario IMO.  The guy is dirty and Michigan should keep him as far away from AA as possible.

On the field Miles is a C+ compared to Hoke's D-.  Off the field Miles is an F compared to Hoke's A.  I would prefer rehiring Hoke, hiring Addazio, Schiano, you name it.

UMaD

December 10th, 2014 at 2:20 PM ^

If you can right-the-ship so to speak over the next 4-5 years and then hand off the job to a coach-in-waiting OC, as some have suggested above, that is fine.

That's part of why I nonsensically thought Riley was relatively appealing to UofM despite his age.

There's just not that many experienced, qualified, proven, pro-style guys around...  that's why you get the Addazio/Schiano speculation.

schreibee

December 10th, 2014 at 1:50 PM ^

First, this is not a defense or advocacy for Miles - he's not in my top 5. But I think I heard much/most of that SI piece on OkSt has been refuted and discredited to the point they issued an apology,,, do I have this wrong?

Herman is up to my #2 after the Playskool performance in the B1G title game. Cmon, 3rd string QB flawlessly executes a brilliant gameplan to the tune of 59-0 over what was like the nation's #2 D or something like that?!?!

DO WANT!!!

UMaD

December 10th, 2014 at 2:17 PM ^

I think you are right, but that the report was discredited doesn't mean it didn't happen.  As I said above, the rumors and unofficial reports are rampant. 

Being a good cheater is far better than being a bad one, you have to hand it to him there...

I don't think Hackett and Debord will hire Herman because he's a big risk.  Does his name come up anywhere besides Mgoblog?  Is he legit candidate?  I kind of doubt it, but would be happy to be wrong.

alum96

December 10th, 2014 at 1:54 PM ^

I agree this "smoke" is in direct contrast to what Hackett laid out in his presser.   Which is why I think the leak yesterday about contacting Miles was in fact nothing but smoke itself i.e. red meat for the masses.  Basically its Jim Harbaugh vs the field, not Harbaugh v Miles based on what UM wants off the field.  If we were doing this search at OSU or Auburn or USC it would be a different story.

bronxblue

December 10th, 2014 at 2:16 PM ^

I agree that, in general, Miles should be left off the docket.  Personally, he's probably #9/10 on my list after the usual names, some coordinators, any maybe even the NFL guys.  But most of the SI stuff was deemed "fundamentally unfounded" by the NCAA, and while let's take every NCAA investigation with a grain of salt, it doesn't seem nearly as bad as the article made it out to be.

The bagmen thing remains, and the obvious local talent advantage Miles enjoys are bigger reasons to keep him out.  The idea he runs teams like Sodom and Gomorrah, though, is probably not the strongest argument against him.

wolverine1987

December 10th, 2014 at 12:42 PM ^

Miles had already succeeded prior to LSU--he got hired after being the first guy to do well at OK. ST. To attribute his success to the "local talent base" is to ignore the existence of Gerry Dinardo, who failed miserabley with that same talent base. Did Saban succeeed their only because of the talent base? Miles is a good coach, had beaten Saban in Tuscaloosa, and comung man. There are legit criticisms of him, but Brian's local talent one IMO is not one.

Shop Smart Sho…

December 10th, 2014 at 12:48 PM ^

To ignore that Miles has built his program on local talent, that will not be following him to Michigan doesn't make any sense though.

His recruiting style simply wouldn't cut it in AA, and how likely is it that a 61 year old coach is going to change?  

Combine that with some absolutely terrible QB development and you are getting a recipe for success.

FreddieMercuryHayes

December 10th, 2014 at 12:56 PM ^

Miles went 28-21 while at Ok st.  Never higher than 3rd in his division, one 9 win season.  And Gerry Dinardo won his divisino twice at LSU before imploding the last two seasons.  And Gerry Dinardo is a bad coach.  And the shift toward Southern dominance of football has really come to the forefront in the last decade and half.  I'm not saying Miles couldn't have success at UM, but there is also evidence that Miles is just a good to great coach with a great talent base, while being not an elite coach with little upside to be there.

funkywolve

December 10th, 2014 at 1:06 PM ^

From 1989 through 2000, OSU had exactly one season above .500, 1997 when they went 8-4.  Miles coached at OSU from 2001 - 2004 and in 3 of his 4 seasons OSU finished above 500.

In the Bedlam series against Oklahoma Miles went 2-2, and the two wins were against Oklahoma teams ranked #3 and #4 in the country.  Before Miles Oklahoma St hadn't beaten a ranked Oklahoma team since 1976.

FreddieMercuryHayes

December 10th, 2014 at 1:30 PM ^

I'm not saying Miles would be a bad coach or a bad hire.  His record indicates that he's probably a great coach.  But it doesn't say 'elite' coach to me like Harbaugh's does, or Meyer's coaching past did.  It's just that I don't think the upside is there that Miles will field consistantly elite teams, and I do think age is a concern.  But UM could certainly do a hell of a lot worse, and I would be happy with a Miles hire.  Just not a thrilled as I would be with a Harbaugh or Stoops hire, nor as excited as I would be with a Herman hire.

alum96

December 10th, 2014 at 1:50 PM ^

So if Harbaugh is not available (and Stoops) you want Tom herman over Les Miles.  This is the stuff that blows my mind.  10 years of history in the SEC West, a NC, a .780 winning % = no.  But a guy who has a mediocre life of a coordinator before he met Urban Meyer = yes.

Tell me about what Tom Herman ever did without Urban Meyer. 

He had 3 years at ISU and 2 years at Rice.  Other than his 2nd year at Rice he has had a lot of mediocre offenses.  His 3 years at ISU his offensive FEI and S&P+ ranks were from middling to putrid.  His 2nd and 3rd year offenses at Iowa State were worse than UM's 2014 offense.

Here is Tom Herman's "great offensive genius" at Iowa State - the last 3 years are his data, the first 2 years are ISU without Tom Herman.

To put in perspective UM's horrid 2014 offense is 82 (oFEI), 73 (S&P+)

  W/L Tot Off oFEI oS&P+
2007     89 109
2008     74 105
2009     51 42
2010     79 83
2011*     82 101

 

Urban Meyer is an offensive genius who has made any OC he works with look great. 

Magnus

December 10th, 2014 at 1:11 PM ^

I think winning is important, but it's also important to look at who Miles was playing during his time at Oklahoma State. Those were the dominant years of Texas and Oklahoma, plus a couple other pretty good teams (Nebraska, Texas Tech, Kansas State, etc.). Those were pretty much two guaranteed losses every year for anyone on those teams' schedules. Oklahoma State doesn't have nearly the tradition that some of those schools do, and they're also fighting for (and losing) battles with UT, OU, etc. for recruits.

Miles would also be fighting for recruits at Michigan (with Ohio State, MSU, Penn State, etc.), but I think it's a whole lot easier to recruit to Michigan than to Oklahoma State.

alum96

December 10th, 2014 at 1:44 PM ^

You are thinking of OK State in today's terms i.e. the Mike Gundy T Boone Pickens era. 

OK State pre Miles was basically Northwestern pre Gary Barnett.  Look at the 25 prior years record at OK State before Les became HC.

No idea how he would have done long term there - maybe he would have turned Ok State into a Baylor or Kansas State type program or maybe he would not have.  But if you look at Briles first 4 years at Baylor and Snyder's first 4 years at Kansas State (both excellent coaches) Miles did more IMO.

 

 

bronxblue

December 10th, 2014 at 2:24 PM ^

But the issue is that Michigan wouldn't be getting under-50 Les Miles.  They'd be getting 61+, kinda-crazy, maybe on his downside Les Miles.  Sure, if you want a guy who'll get people talking for 2-3 years then Miles makes sense.  But I don't think fans want to be looking for another coach in 5-6 years, and we honestly don't know how Miles will handle whole new recruiting grounds, with new relationships to build and less local talent, while also dealing with a fractured AD in terms of support.  Sure, maybe Brian's arguments downplay Miles a smidge, but these counter-arguments about what he did 10-14 years ago aren't that relevant either.

funkywolve

December 10th, 2014 at 3:10 PM ^

There's going to be issues/red flags with just about every possible candidate.  You mention working in new recruiting grounds as an issue with Miles.  Well, that's going to be an issue with the vast majority of candidates.  Harbaugh has spent his entire coaching career on the west coast. 

There's also no guarantee any coach that UM gets will be here for the long term.  If UM is able to land Harbaugh, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he's gone within 5-8 years.  Of all the candidates being mentioned, Harbaugh is probably the biggest flight risk of them all imo.  I'm guessing if he comes to UM, if the right opportunity opened up for him in the NFL, he'd probably take it.

alum96

December 10th, 2014 at 4:12 PM ^

Amen.  There are red or yellow flags with everyone.

Everyone wants Saban now but in 2005 you could say he feasted on a bad SEC West where Alabama was lost and until his last year there Auburn was a 4 win team at best.  You could say when given a chance in the Midwest he was ho hum, 4 .500 type seasons at MSU and only 1 good year.  Who wants a guy who could only win one time in the Midwest?  And at LSU he had "all that talent" to himself and yet Georgia and Florida and Tennessee were better programs.  He had 4 and 5 loss seasons at LSU no different than DiNardo.  He can win in the south with oversignings and JUCOs - that doesnt translate to the north. And so on and so forth.

With Les, everyone says they wanted him in 2007.  You know what the MGo retort would be in 2007?  The same shit they give David Shaw.  He is doing it with Saban's players.  "Les has not proven he can win with his own players - he is a risk! - all he has shown he is he can take Saban's players and win! He is not proven on his own with his own players. DO NOT WANT."

Then in 2010 search he had come off a good year (11-2) but his prior 2 years were 8-5, 9-5.  The MGo retort would be "8-4 and 9-5 with all that LA talent?  See I told he was living off Saban's players.  The last 3 years he has only had one good year.  With his own talent he is an average coach - his NC was based off Nick Saban's players. DO NOT WANT."

You can't win.  Meanwhile OSU didnt give a f*** about any off field incidents with Urban and went and got him and never looked back.  At UM there would be 10,000 threads about all the things wrong with Urban off the field and how he wouldnt represent the university correctly so lets find someone better.  Plus he has talent in Florida he would not get here.  And etc etc.

bronxblue

December 11th, 2014 at 1:28 AM ^

I think you're looking for a fight I'm not trying to have with you.  I'm not crazy about Miles because of his age and his red flags; you make arguments to the contrary.  I've never said he would be a flop at UM, only that everyone keeps talking about him being a great choice because of what he did 4-5 years ago.  

His tenure at LSU has been very good, but the Mad Hatter part of him and his age makes me wonder if he'd be as fortunate at Michigan, and if he's only here 3-4 years are you getting one final uptick or is he on his way down.  Maybe that 13-1 season was the outlier?  Certainly wouldn't surprise me.

As for Urban, of course OSU doesn't care.  They barely cared about Tressel.  I'm not all high-and-mighty about UM like others, but Michigan, coming off the "sanctions" from RR, wasn't going to look at a guy with more arrests than wins at Florida over his tenure and nnot at least pause.  And frankly, he probably wouldn't work with the culture at UM, and that's an indictment of UM.  But for better or for worse, UM cares about getting a "good guy" as a HC, and so that precludes them from certain coaches who are probably perfectly nice human beings but don't pass muster for the gatekeepers in A2.  

bronxblue

December 11th, 2014 at 1:22 AM ^

I've always said I'm bearish on Harbaugh specifically because he's a flight risk; he's not an NFL washout like most of the other college coaches you see from the NFL, and he'll be back there before the end of his career.

My point with recruiting (and really all of the arguments against Miles) is due to his age.  At 62, I don't know if he'll be as inclined to meet the local HS coaches, grow those relationships, break into the strongholds, etc.  Harbaugh being 55 is already a bit "eh", but at least there you've got a guy who has recruited at an academically-difficult school and is used to pulling kids to a school that might not be nearby.  Miles hasn't had to worry about academics for years at LSU and OSU, and the whole grayshirt thing won't slide nearly to the degree it has at LSU.  

Again, people overreact and think I'm saying he'd flop at Michigan; I think he'd be successful enough.  But he's not 11-2, 12-1 Miles anymore, and at his age you'd probably get a bump for a year or two before he struggles a bit recruiting kids, he looks around and realizes he's nearly 65, and moves on.  You say Harbaugh would leave in 5-8 years?  That would make him basically the age Miles would be when he started as HC.  Everyone wants to act like he's Snyder but Miles probably isn't historically few guys are.  So in 3-4 years, Michigan is where they are today, maybe with a couple more wins, and frankly I don't see that being a positive,

TheMadGrasser

December 10th, 2014 at 3:58 PM ^

LSU Tigers (Southeastern Conference) (2005–present)
2005 LSU 11–2 7–1 1st (West) W Peach 5 6
2006 LSU 11–2 6–2 T–2nd (West) W Sugar 3 3
2007 LSU 12–2 6–2 1st (West) W BCS NCG 1 1
2008 LSU 8–5 3–5 3rd (West) W Chick-fil-A    
2009 LSU 9–4 5–3 2nd (West) L Capital One 17 17
2010 LSU 11–2 6–2 T–2nd (West) W Cotton 8 8
2011 LSU 13–1 8–0 1st (West) L BCS NCG 2 2
2012 LSU 10–3 6–2 T–2nd (West) L Chick-fil-A 12 13
2013 LSU 10–3 5–3 3rd (West) W Outback 14 14
2014 LSU 8–4 4–4 T–4th (West) Music City    
LSU: 103–28 56–24

How many teams have you seen with an awesome talent base that didn't perform on the field? Happens all the time! Michigan recruits just as well as LSU and I don't feel like pulling the data again.

Does a Zook Florida team ring a bell? How about a Lane Kiffin USC team? This is getting tiresome. Give credit where it's due man. Miles is a top notch recruiter and coach. You don't "get lucky" for 10 years and win 78% of games at LSU.

jmdblue

December 10th, 2014 at 1:22 PM ^

Les is a quality football coach.  Further, he has lots of personal support in and around the program (Hackett, Wangler et el).  But everything Brian documented as a negative is absolutely true and it would result in the "division" Brian also mentioned.  If Les had no Michigan connection and/or serious love for Bo and Michigan, we would compare him to Spurrier, Fulmer, and maybe even Switzer or Jerry Jones.

 If there is divide amongst the fanbase and specifically the fanbase on this board I think it begins with a disagreement over how important it is to do things the right way.  Les would not get adequate support from the old school fans who believe Bo's legacy is not limited to his fine record, but in the manner in which he ran the program.  

 

 

alum96

December 10th, 2014 at 1:32 PM ^

counterpunts on Miles.

First I think he needs a better OC, and a guy who develops QB.  No question.  His QB play has been mediocre since Russell (who he inherited from Saban).  If that is not upgraded its an issue.   The counterpoint to that is I am amazed how well LSU has done without a great player at the most important position in sports.  It speaks to how damn good the rest of the team is (plenty of LSU WRs go to the NFL and do well for example)

Second, I agree that he would be divisive.  And I think that is why he wont even be offered.  So I agree with Brian there.

Third, I disagree he is on the downside of anything.  He lost almost his entire offense to the NFL this year other than linemen.  And the defense remained excellent.  A guy with 3 down years - yes on the downside.  A guy with 1 down year you cant catergorize as down side of career.   Was Bo on the downside of his career in 1984?  Shit happens in any 1 year.

http://mgoblog.com/diaries/cc-refuting-les-miles-has-regressed-past-few…

Fourth the local talent angle bugs the fuck out of me.  It is like LA is a fortress and no one can go in there from Auburn, Alabama, Texas A&M, Texas and get LA players?  Does Miles have guards at the border?   Yes the south has a bevy of talent.  No, Les Miles does not have it all to himself.

Tangent to that point, LSU average class since Les Miles has been at LSU is #9 in the country per Rivals.  UM has been #11.  That's with 2 coaching searches inhibiting 2 classes.  So we'd probaby be #10 or #9 ourselves with a stable coach for the entire run. 

Last, Jerry Stovall (22-21), Mike Archer (27-18), Curley Hallman (16-28), Gerry DiNardo (33-24) had "all that LA talent to themselves" between 1980 and 1999 and did shit with it.

Miles has a higher winning % at LSU than Nick Saban did.  Yes he acts buggy and is not a great game manager.  He is not Nick Saban.  No one is. 

Again I dont think he will be offered for the "behind the scenes" issues and as Brian says he will be seen as divisive and does not fit what Hackett spoke about at his presser.  But pissing on this guy's football accomplishments is boggling to me.

Shop Smart Sho…

December 10th, 2014 at 12:31 PM ^

Brian brings up that Marcus Ray is on this "search committee" thing.

Does anyone know the full roster of this group, or is it yet another super-secret that won't leave Fort Schembechler?

Also, does anyone else really want to hear Brian debate Marcus Ray about spread offenses?

IvyLeague

December 10th, 2014 at 12:35 PM ^

I love you Brian but seriously? As Jalen Rose said, "The people that don't want Miles are the reason we're here today".

"Miles's success at LSU is not likely to translate to Michigan; it's built off of insane local talent that makes his defenses crazy good every year without a whole lot of Narduzzi-style scheming. His offenses have mostly been poop, and he's won an inordinate number of games with crazy Mad Hatter stuff. His clock management is atrocious; his "roster management" is worse. The way he wins at LSU is by ignoring their copious bagmen—goodbye, Jai Eugene—and tapping a local talent base that almost any coach could."

This is the kind of attitude that got us Hoke. A guy whose won a national title and 75% of his games in the hardest conference in college football is all luck basically?? That would discredit Pete Carroll at USC, Nick Saban at Alabama, Urban Meyer at Florida and Jumbo Fisher at Florida State. This is why the majority of the country thinks Michigan has no idea what it's doing. Who after Harbaugh that is realistic has the pedigree of Les Miles? The only person that comes close is David Shaw. No thank you to unproven cordinators or second tier candidates if Miles is on the table.

Like I said, I love you but this line of thought doesn't make any sense.

ShadowStorm33

December 10th, 2014 at 12:55 PM ^

Meh, Miles has his warts, but he still has one hell of a track record. The problem with guys like Mullen is that while few would argue that he isn't a good coach, it's far from clear he's a great coach, which it seems that some like Brian are advancing.

Outside of longshots like Stoops, Sean Payton and maybe Richt, Miles seems like the next "surest" thing behind Harbaugh. Once you get past that, to guys like Mullen, Herman, etc., you seem to be getting into the territory of may work out, may not; tossups, really. Just because Mullen might be the best available option if Harbaugh's off the table doesn't mean it's an inspiring hire, and really does nothing to quell the fear that we'll be having to go through yet another transition in another 3-4 years...

True Blue Grit

December 10th, 2014 at 1:19 PM ^

change their spots.  I'm in Brian's camp on the topic of Miles.  Between his age, all the "warts" in his background mentioned above, and probable devisiveness he would cause in the Wolverine nation, he just isn't worth the risk.  I'm assuming, maybe naively, that Michigan will be able to entice a younger, successful coach to accept the job.  If not, it's possible Hackett may be persuaded to hire him (if he wants the job) because of his "big name" appeal. 

harmon98

December 10th, 2014 at 1:44 PM ^

It's a relatively simple question by Hackett in the interview: here's information that you've had a history of oversigning and some cases here of unsavory scholarship practices. You can't do that in the B1G and the University of Michigan will certainly not tolerate these practices. How do you propose to recruit at Michigan on the up-and-up?