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Brian

Words fail. Holiday greetings from Patrick Kugler, Henry Poggi, and Chris Petzold.

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If anyone knows what to do with their hands after seeing this please let me know.

Peters transfer: nope. The lingering concern about Shea Patterson's transfer is that it would cause Brandon Peters to transfer out, thus leaving Michigan just as thin at quarterback and reliant on an NCAA waiver for their presumed starter. That does not appear to be happening. Sam Webb talked to Peters's father; you can listen to a WTKA segment on that conversation—helpfully summarized here—or read his take on The Michigan Insider:

“That's good,” Mr. Peters said of Patterson’s transfer. “Iron sharpens iron. Brandon is up for a good fight. Put the gloves on, (get) both fists up, (and) let's go! Brandon said, ‘bring in 30 QBs. I'm going to my job at hand and work.’

“Coach Harbaugh said it’s going to be a competition and we believe him.”

Webb also cleared up the strange yes-no-yes Patterson saga: Michigan was content to go into 2018 with three quarterbacks, but once Speight decided to grad transfer they wanted to add a guy and Patterson wanted to come, so... yeah.

The grad transfer rule might also be helping Michigan keep Peters around, BTW. He will compete for the job this year. If he doesn't get it he will be the backup; if Patterson's one and done then he's in line for the job again in 2018. If he's not, Peters can almost certainly graduate in 3.5 years and have two to play two, a la Alex Malzone. He doesn't lose anything by staying, and he will be a serious candidate for the job. I'd tentatively give him the edge given his familiarity with the offense.

Not quite crootin' visits of note. JaRaymond Hall took a visit to CMU this weekend, which seems like a significant step towards a transfer. Hall is on the fence after receiving his release earlier this month.

Also: potential Ole Miss transfer Van Jefferson visited Louisville yesterday. As of Monday, Jefferson was the only one of the three guys who had not told a recruiting reporter that he was at least virtually committed, and it appears that there is a genuine race on for his services. Louisville is closer to home since Shawn Jefferson is the Titans' WR coach. If this is a backup plan because of transcripts thing expect that to get resolved almost immediately—all three guys want to be on someone else's campus for the winter semester.

Doesn't sound great for Newsome. This is reading between the lines, admittedly, but that's all we've got here. And if Grant Newsome isn't cleared for spring it's probably not good news for his career:

Michigan left tackle Grant Newsome still holds the goal of being medically cleared to return to football by the start of the 2018 season.

"Before then hopefully," Newsome said Sunday night. "As soon as possible." ...

"Trying to get back on the field as soon as possible," said Newsome, who was honored with the Pete Schmidt Courage Award at the National Football Foundation/Free Press All-State Dream Team banquet in Dearborn on Sunday. "I want to play right now. But it's up to the doctors when they'll let me go."

Not being cleared more than a year removed from his injury is fairly ominous.

Shooter. Adrien Nunez is the who-dat afterthought in Michigan's 2018 basketball recruiting class, at least if you go by rankings. If you go by the ability to make threes off the dribble, though:

That's one game and thus fairly representative. Nunez ventured inside the three point line once; he makes multiple off the dribble threes; he also catches and shoots. Nunez doesn't look like the kind of athlete who gets the shiny rankings, but he looks like a guy who can get his shot in a variety of ways. That shot is always a three pointer. Beilein kind of kid.

A disastrous nonconference schedule. Michigan isn't the only Big Ten team to suffer through a disappointing basketball stretch here. The conference has imploded:

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This looks like a four bid league. Northwestern, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Maryland, and Wisconsin have all badly undershot preseason expectations. Michigan really needs this game against Texas tonight and then will have to go... uh... 11-7 in conference play to be on the bubble? Is it that bad? I think it might be.

Etc.: There's an early signing period now. Weird. Jourdan Lewis doing Jourdan Lewis things. Scorekeepers is the most popular Uber destination in Michigan: opposing ridesharing in a college town is tantamount to endorsing drunk driving. Somehow, Michigan—Michigan!—is 335th in FT shooting. FFS.

A reminder that Amani Toomer has a history of yellin' about stuff that seems ridiculous. Mo Hurst, All American.

Comments

ijohnb

December 12th, 2017 at 1:19 PM ^

Michigan loses tonight, they have to go 11-7 to get in, not on the bubble. If they win tonight, 10-8 will get them in clean also. If they lose tonight and go 10-8 they will be on the bubble.

In reply to by ijohnb

smwilliams

December 12th, 2017 at 1:50 PM ^

Was going post this exactly. A loss tonight would probably mean they go 10-3 in the Non-Conference. 20 wins heading into the BTT would put them right on the bubble most likely.

The '15-'16 team was 20-11 heading into the BTT and ended up with a First Four game after beating Indiana (the Kam Chatman Game). That team had three decent wins: a Neutral site win against Texas, a home win against Maryland, and a home win against Purdue. 

And honestly, I see two Big Ten games where I'm going in thinking, oh Michigan isn't winning this: at Purude and at MSU. 

Iowa? Isn't good this year. Wisconsin? Got blown out by OSU at the Kohl Center. Get a split with Maryland and Northwestern. Beat Purdue and Minnesota at home. Maybe drop two of @Rutgers, @Nebraska, @Iowa, @Wisconsin, @Penn State.

 

TrueBlue2003

December 12th, 2017 at 5:37 PM ^

will probably also require us to get to the quarters of the BTT again (like in 2015-16), but I agree with you that a loss tonight and a 10-8 big ten record puts us squarely on the bubble with our fate to be decided in the BTT.

Interestingly, RPI (37th) likes us better than kenpom (41st) right now and I don't remember how long it's been since that happened, given our dumb non-conference scheduling.  My guess is that's a result of us having played two conference games at this point and yet to play our usual schedule anchor games (Detroit, Alabama A&M, Jacksonville this year).

Interestingly, CMU is undefeated in games not against Michigan and sits at 57th in RPI.  Finally, a team that looked like a bad one for SoS has turned out looking much better on paper (so far). 

Sam1863

December 12th, 2017 at 1:23 PM ^

That picture is priceless. They look like three members of some touchy-feely vocal group from the early 70's, who'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony.

And the matching necklaces really pull those outfits together.

Mi Sooner

December 12th, 2017 at 2:18 PM ^

That is exactly was it reminds me of. And probably their Christmas album/single cover for their album full of Christmas song covers and the one crappy one that they wrote. Chris’ only singing performance is on their cover of Rudolph the red nose reindeer. Poggi does the rest; Kugler is on drums...

ff11

December 12th, 2017 at 1:47 PM ^

Honestly it wouldn’t even make sense for him to consider transferring at this point. He’s shown enough that he has to be considered favored for the starting job. He has about as much talent and ability as the others and more experience and familiarity with the system. It’s really his to lose.

Hugh

December 12th, 2017 at 1:53 PM ^

Given the rate at which quarterbacks are injured, we may need three outstanding quarterbacks by the end of the season. Not a prediction, just a precaution. 

LeCheezus

December 12th, 2017 at 2:18 PM ^

So help me out here - for the last few BBall seasons (basically since Stauskas left) there has been a lot of content/articles on this site that talk constantly about basketball fancystats/rankings and how Michigan is doing a poor job of scheduling or gaming themselves into the NCAA tournament. 

At what point should the expectation be that we should be a top 25-30ish team that should be a shoo-in for the tournament to where scheduling a few bad teams shouldn't matter?  For example, this post says we have to go 11-7 in B1G to be on the bubble.  If we can't go 11-7 in what looks to be a pretty bad B1G outside of MSU, should we even be in the tournament?  Should we be excited about getting in the tournament if we do manage to bubble our way in at 11-7?  It all just has a "lipstick on a pig" feel to it to me.

Jonesy

December 12th, 2017 at 6:04 PM ^

Even if we were a shoe in for the NCAA tournament the gaming of the RPI and scheduling affects seed. It's what got Minnesota a 4 last year and Wisconsin an 8 even though Wisconsin was clearly the superior team in every way except RPI not understanding what SOS really is. Sure it's most impactful when its determining whether you get in, but it's always important.

TrueBlue2003

December 12th, 2017 at 6:21 PM ^

This seems to be a poor passive-aggressive knock on the program that we're generally around the bubble instead of a regular 25-30 team.  Well, in college sports sometimes variation exists.

We had a great team (top 20) with some nice wins last year, even if we underacheived a little in conference play such that the bubble was in the discussion at one point.  In each of the two seasons before that, our best player was injured.

This is a rebuilding year.  We have a good freshman class and an even better class coming in next year.   It was always going to be a little piggish after losing our senior leaders last year, both of whom are playing professionally, and another guy that was a first rounder. 

Would you rather we were a pig (a single season pig) without lipstick?  For this team, making the tournament is a reasonable goal and a mostly successful season.  Better than that would be an impressive coaching job by Beliein.  Yes, put that lipstick on us and let's go dancing.

MGlobules

December 12th, 2017 at 2:26 PM ^

not the same thing as ride-sharing, obviously, but for those who might be interested (paper from the Transportation Law Journal that started as a ten-part series at Naked Capitalism): 

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2933177

Was just in SF and heard many tales of impoverished Uber drivers, owing their soul for the cars the company financed, sleeping in them because they can't afford housing. Meanwhile, cab companies going out of business and. . . Uber losses now approaching 5 billion simoleons. 

 

 

TrueBlue2003

December 12th, 2017 at 5:47 PM ^

sleeping in ones car better than being an impoverished unemployed person sleeping in a cardboard box?  And it's not like Uber's losses are due to them lighting money on fire.  They're employing thousands of people, doing some cutting edge research that will contribute to the advancement of transportation, and enabling contract work for millions of people that willingly do it.

I know that probably sounds like some Ayn Rand stuff coming from the mouth of Kalanick, and even though that dude is a jerk, the benefits of what is happening in personal transportation far outweigh the negatives.

Da Fino

December 12th, 2017 at 3:00 PM ^

"Opposing ridesharing" is a poor black/white mischaracterization of the issue.  AA council didn't vote three years ago on whether or not Uber and Lyft could opperate in the city.  They actually debated whether or not rideshare services should be subject to the same rules and regulations that govern taxis and limos (which exist to ensure safe vehicles).  It's a little more nuanced and not quite as dramatic "opposing ridesharing in a college town is tantamount to endorsing drunk driving."  

maineandblue

December 12th, 2017 at 3:41 PM ^

Good to know Peters should be in fine shape to transfer if Patterson wins the job and starts the next two years. Wondering what happens to Patterson if the situation is reversed. He never had a redshirt year. If he doesn't get the playing time he wants can he transfer again? Not sure about the rules on transfers, but I wonder if the Ole Miss thing would be a special exception? 

I know he has NFL aspirations so just curious what his options might be if Peters/Dylan beat him out. 

281wolverine

December 12th, 2017 at 8:21 PM ^

My hope is that if the conference truly is that mediocre, we should post 11-7 or better in league play to earn a bid.  If not, we simply weren't cut out for March.  That would certainly be a disappointment, but I'm optimistic about our chances to finish well in the Big Ten. 

readyourguard

December 13th, 2017 at 7:58 AM ^

Not being cleared to play, at this very moment, doesn't sound all that ominous. He was never going to participate in bowl practices. He's probably running and lifting and working on agility as trainers/S&A keep an eye on him. Then he'll go through winter conditioning with the team. Just before spring ball he'll be evaluated by doctors. Pretty standard protocol, imo.