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really should have used this for the bowl game post

That is a large spread. Michigan is favored by 6.5 against FSU. S&P+ has Michigan by 11.8 and with a 75% shot at victory. Other lines that are already up: Wisconsin –7.5 against WMU and PSU +7 against USC.

S&P+ lines for other Big Ten games:

  • OSU-Clemson: OSU by 4.9.
  • Wisconsin-WMU: Wisconsin by 8.
  • Iowa-Florida: Iowa(!) by 4.6.
  • USC-PSU: USC by 3.4.
  • Nebraska-Tennessee: Nebraska by 1.1.
  • Utah-Indiana: Utah by 1.9.
  • Pitt-NW: Pitt by 5.1
  • Washington State-Minnesota: WSU by 0.5.
  • Maryland-BC: Maryland by 0.1.
  • Michigan State-Dignity: Dignity by 35.

I thought a sure consequence of four Big Ten teams getting pulled up into NY6 bowls would be the rest of the conference getting set on fire, but S&P+—which was 56% against the spread this year—thinks almost everything is a tossup at worst. I did not know that the Big Ten would lose the Citrus (which is LSU-Louisville, yes please) if they got the Orange, but they rather sensibly do.

Good to see that the bowl revamp has added flexibility and created a bunch of good matchups.

Cole also plans to return. As of yesterday:

Center Mason Cole, speaking to reporters Sunday evening, suggested that he will return, though the junior was hesitant to commit to anything.

"Not right now," Cole said of thinking about the NFL. "I'm focused on this next game and getting the win. I'll take a look at everything, but as it stands now, I'm definitely leaning towards coming back."

Chris Wormley volunteered a return for Maurice Hurst as well. Both guys will be critical starters on next year's team should they follow through on those statements. (Hurst had previously said he'd be back.)

So we've got that going for us, part zillion. Per PFF Michigan is the best team left out of the playoff and one of the top four overall:

All four of the teams that will be in this year’s playoff rank in the top five of PFF’s cumulative grades for 2016. Alabama ranks first, Washington second, Ohio State fourth and Clemson fifth.

The No. 3 team in the country? The Michigan Wolverines. ...

In particular, when looking at a team that could match up best with top-seeded Alabama, the Wolverines appear to be one of the best candidates. They rank third in PFF’s run-defense grades, second in pass-rush and 12th in coverage – giving them a defense that could go toe-to-toe with Alabama’s and perhaps put enough pressure on Crimson Tide’s freshman quarterback Jalen Hurts (more on him in a bit) to spark an upset.

They seem to think that Clemson should be favored over OSU, with two bullets talking up Deshaun Watson and talking down OSU's pass protection. We've got that going for us, too.

Peppers stock. Also in PFF things, Jabrill Peppers took a tumble in their latest mock draft:

When targeted in coverage this season, he has yielded receptions on 20 of 26 targets and does not have a single pass defended when he is the primary defender (his lone interception against Ohio State was a case of him being in the right place at the right time off a pass tipped in front). He also lacks the size to consistently take on and shed blocks going forward, as the majority of his impact plays this year have come when he has been unblocked.

PFF has always had him in the 10-15 range right next to Lewis and not a top 5 pick, so this isn't a huge tumble. I'm still confused by those pass completion numbers. Namely where any of them came from. I'm sure Peppers has been targeted more than the two times I remember, but 26? I don't know where that comes from.

On the postseason. I've been saying this for ten years and will say it until they destroy the dream by going to 8 teams: a 6-team playoff is the best one available most of the time. Six teams emphasizes the regular season since there are home games and byes up for grabs; it keeps the field sufficiently constricted so that make-weights are extremely unlikely.

This year, I assume that the committee made some changes to the rankings to give the appearance of deliberative thought when there was none. That makes the six-team playoff deeply weird:

1. Alabama vs 4. Washington / 5. Penn State
2. Clemson vs 3. OSU / 6. Michigan

Clemson jumped OSU, and that did not matter. PSU jumped Michigan, and that did not matter. The former was a meaningless admonishment to win your conference; the latter was a meaningless admonishment to win your conference. If Clemson or Washington did not win their title games I wonder if they would have had the cojones to put PSU in over a team with the same record who beat it 49-10.

Anyway, in a six-team world I bet a dollar the committee finagles it such that there is not an immediate rematch of M/OSU—or leaves a third Big Ten team out entirely.

This is bunk. There is an enormous Bloomberg article on officiating out there that I keep seeing, because it purports to show that there is a class of "protected blue bloods" that get favorable calls. Oddly, it leads with Florida State getting hosed against Clemson—which one is the blue blood?—and then hits their thesis statement:

“This is an incestuous situation,” says Rhett Brymer, a business management professor at Miami University in Oxford, Ohio. He spent more than a year parsing almost 39,000 fouls called in games involving NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision teams in the 2012-2015 seasons. His research finds “ample evidence of biases among conference officials,” including “conference officials showing partiality towards teams with the highest potential to generate revenue for their conference.”

Refs are partial towards teams "with the highest potential to generate revenue." In other words, good teams. They throw fractionally fewer flags on those teams:

Brymer’s data suggest something more insidious. Across the 3,000-odd regular-season and bowl games he studied, a bit less than half of the fouls called were what he terms “discretionary”—holding, pass interference, unsportsmanlike conduct, and personal fouls like roughing the passer. Refs were on average 10 percent less likely to throw discretionary flags on teams that enjoy both strong playoff prospects and winning traditions. Brymer calls these teams “protected flagships.”

There is a less than insidious explanation: avoiding penalties is a skill. Flagship teams are more likely to have firebreathing truckzillas; Purdue is more likely to have a peasant wielding a pitchfork. In such situations the penalty scales are naturally out of balance; news that Purdue gets 14% fewer "discretionary" calls than OSU fails to move hte needle. That seems about right. This is immediately proposed by the NCAA's national coordinator for officiating and then largely ignored.

About 3/4ths of the way through the thing we get the big reveal:

While earning his Ph.D. at Texas A&M, he came to sympathize with Aggie fans who believed that all close calls favored the University of Texas. “I reached a breaking point,” Brymer says. Weary of fans whining about refs without empirical evidence, he decided to see if he could find any. “At least I’m bringing myself peace,” he says.

Yes, but think of all the bloggers you're forcing to write skeptical items in their link roundup pieces.

Prepare to be asked whether you went to Michigan. The Ringer's Kaite Baker got into Michigan football this year, which was fun until it wasn't.

Harbaugh isn’t for everyone, but to me, he’s like a combustible acquaintance: As long as you never get tooclose, you can sit back and just let the theatrics endlessly entertain you.

But it’s possible I’m getting too close. The past few weeks have been a rougher ride, a mere glimpse into the tumultuousness of a typical college football season. Winning the national championship seems like an impossibility: Just getting the chance to try requires a constantly evolving team of near-children remaining close to perfect over the course of a 12- or 13-game season. (NFL teams, meanwhile, can barely squeak past .500 and still win Super Bowls.) Even in a post-BCS world, the scope and sprawl of FBS football means that it will forever be hostage to subjective decisions by conflicted parties.

Having been kicked in all available places, Baker is probably hooked. Welcome! Here is your pillow to scream into.

Maybe he is Mark Ingram except fast. Thomas Rawls blew up:

He carried 15 times for 106 yards (7.1 yards per carry) and two touchdowns as the offense exploded, scoring on eight of 11 possessions. In the first quarter, Rawls found a cutback lane and hurdled into the end zone for an 8-yard score. In the second, he showed his big-play ability by outrunning defenders for a 45-yard touchdown.

On the one hand, Fred Jackson recruited the guy. On the other, he got three carries as a junior and transferred. Mike Cox getting drafted and having a cup of coffee was one thing; Rawls turning into Marshawn Lynch 2.0 is quite another. He's the most successful Michigan NFL running back since at least Tim Biakabutuka and he'll pass the effective but constantly injured Biakabutuka in a year or two if he remains hale.

Etc.: Purdue has apparently hired WKU coach Jeff Brohm, which isn't the worst idea. Here's this Pat Forde article on how Jim Harbaugh fits right in there I forgot to link two weeks ago. ND Nation never stops winning even if the team does. Punt John Punt on the Wilson firing.

Comments

JBLPSYCHED

December 5th, 2016 at 12:14 PM ^

...you can't take Dignity and have the points too. You gotta take Dignity and lay the 35 to MSU. Me personally I'll double down and take the Over. No way Dignity doesn't take Sparty behind the proverbial woodshed and beat em till they squeal.

Everyone Murders

December 5th, 2016 at 12:22 PM ^

Even though it will be the first ever meeting between MSU and Dignity, the smart play is to take Dignity and give the points.

Smart play on the over.  I'm guessing if Dignity is favored by 35, the O/U is also set at 35.  I can't see MSU getting any points against Dignity, and - like you - see Dignity scoring at will.

lhglrkwg

December 5th, 2016 at 1:49 PM ^

Penn State is not the 4th best team nor to they deserve to be because they managed to luck their way into a division title as the 3rd best team in their division. I think we'd beat them by 39 again if we could play them a 2nd time. Those little McSorley 'chuck it up and pray' throws wouldn't work on us

Tuebor

December 5th, 2016 at 2:34 PM ^

Penn State didn't luck their way into a divison title.  They won 8 consecutive games after losing to us.  They beat OSU and Iowa, both teams we lost to.  They beat Iowa 41-14.  They got stronger as the year went on.  Not to mention they overcame a 28-7 deficit to win the big ten championship 38-31.  I think it is reasonable to say that they are playing better football than Michigan right now.  Would we beat them on a neutral field?  Maybe.  Would we beat them right now in Happy Valley?  I think the answer to that is no.

 

Against our common opponents this year PSU did better than Michigan in every game except for Rutgers (we won by 78, they won by 39) and Maryland (we won by 56, they won by 24). 

 

They did way better than us against MSU (They won by 33, we won by 9) and Iowa (They won by 27 we lost by 1).  They beat OSU by 3, and we lost to OSU by 3. 

 

Indiana (We won by 10, they won by 14) and Wisconsin (both teams beat them by 7) are a wash.

 

So generally speaking they did better than Michigan against better teams, and Michigan did better against crappier teams.

 

TrueBlue2003

December 5th, 2016 at 3:07 PM ^

they did better in terms of score against teams they played at home that we played on the road (MSU, Iowa, and OSU).  

And they were down to MSU at halftime and only poured it on in the end during garbage time, hoping to impress the committee.  We were up, what, 17 at halftime and only gave up some optics in the fourth during garbage time.

They got super lucky to beat OSU on very fluky plays despite getting manhandled most of the game and significantly outgained  (their pass rush was great in the fourth, but again home night game will do something for a D line).  We got super unlucky against OSU/outplayed them.

So the only common opponent against whom they clearly played better was Iowa, which, again they had the fortune to play at home at night for.

Recency bias is mostly at play here. They appeared to improve but the perception is that they improved by a lot because they didn't play a road game against a team with a winning record after getting destroyed by us.  So how much they actually improved is...dunno? They played their toughest road games early and did not do well.  We had to play our toughest road games late and admittedly did not do well in one, but played an incredible game in the other, save for a handful of plays and missed calls.

We'd be favored on a neutral field by more than a TD.

Tuebor

December 5th, 2016 at 3:13 PM ^

Fair enough on the home vs away front.  But I'd rather have won against MSU the way PSU won than the way we won. 

 

Also I'd rather be lucky and win against OSU than be unlucky and lose.  9 consecutive wins is impressive.  If we had beaten Iowa it might be a different story but we didn't so we are below them IMO. 7-2 conference record vs their 9-1 record and the championship.  Especially given how young they are.  We were a veteren team and couldn't notch victories.

Ziff72

December 5th, 2016 at 3:09 PM ^

Are you Jay Paterno playing the long con?

Comparing scores against scrub teams is worthless.

Comparing scores against solid teams is a little less worthless but not very interesting.

Vegas would install us as a huge favorite on a neutral field.

Can't stand people propping up the Conference Championship when the schedules are unbalanced but leaving non-conference games out of the equation.  

OSU went to Norman and destroyed Oklahoma

PSU lost to a decent Pitt team

GTFO

 

Tuebor

December 5th, 2016 at 3:16 PM ^

PSU, OSU, UM, and Wisconsin all played each other.  Using basic head to head, and overall conference record tie-breakers it is simple to determine that PSU is the better team.

 

PSU, OSU, and UM were 2-1 and Wisconsin was 0-3 (wisconsin is eliminated).

PSU and OSU only had one conference loss, UM had two. (UM is eliminated).

PSU beat OSU head to head. (OSU is eliminated). 

Tuebor

December 5th, 2016 at 4:06 PM ^

OSU has a better non conference record.  A win against OU beats they heck out of a loss against PItt.  But when it comes to B1G play, PSU is the best team.  The results on the field speak for themselves.

lhglrkwg

December 5th, 2016 at 5:30 PM ^

Penn State and Ohio State play once: at night, in Happy Valley

Michigan and Ohio State play once: in Columbus

Michigan and Penn State play once: in Ann Arbor

It's difficult to gather anything from a single game. A 3-point loss on the road at Penn State doesn't move the needle to me. Ohio State probably wins that game 7 or 8 times out of 10. Michigan probably beats Iowa in Iowa City at around the same amount. What does move the register for me is a 39 point loss on the road. Top 5 teams don't lose by 39 to anyone

jmblue

December 5th, 2016 at 8:33 PM ^

I know margin of victory supposedly isn't a factor, but it absolutely should be.  It's hard to argue that a team that loses by 5 1/2 touchdowns is national-championship caliber.  

You go through the list of past national champions and there are some with losses (and 2007 LSU had two!) but they were almost always close.  I'm pretty confident none ever lost by 30+.

 

 

Tuebor

December 6th, 2016 at 9:55 AM ^

Head to head, and conference records have been used to break ties for decades in college football standings.  Sure we beat them head to head, but that is only one game out of 12/13.  They won the conference.  They had a better record than us.  They are a better team. 

lhglrkwg

December 5th, 2016 at 3:42 PM ^

They got Iowa, MSU, and OSU at home. Iowa and OSU being night games. We got Iowa on the road at night. We all know what a swing road night games can pull. Their only road games in that stretch were at Purdue, Indiana, and Rutgers. That's about as easy as a road slate gets (their only tough road game ended in a 39 point loss)

Indiana is a nothing comparison because we were fielding JOK.

I just do not buy that PSU is playing better right now. We held OSU to effectively three FG tries in regulation in the Shoe and should have won that game. Penn State wrapped up their seasons with a whole slew of patsies with their only tough game (Iowa) being a home night game. They then played a no-defense game with Wisconsin in Indy to earn the title of 3rd best team in the Big Ten

Penn State did not get stronger as the year went on, their schedule got easier. They were down at half at home to MSU 12-10 and they were in a battle with Indiana on the road. I do not buy for a second that that team would beat us on a neutral field and USC is going to tear them a new one

Tuebor

December 5th, 2016 at 4:05 PM ^

Their defense held Wisconsin to 3 points in the second half.  And 14 of wisconsin's 31 points came off of returns.  So defensively they held Wisconsin to 17 points in the entire game.  That is impressive. 

 

Tthey scored 24 points in the second half against a defense that we only had the opportunity to score 23 points on in regulation and OSU only scored 23 points on in regulation.

 

The fact is that PSU is the hottest team in the big ten, and arguably the hottest in college football.  They'll settle that score against USC in the Rose Bowl.

 

 

Tuebor

December 5th, 2016 at 4:48 PM ^

Hornibrook and Houston split duties all season.  Statistically speaking Houston had a better completion percentage and better YPA than Hornibrook.  Houston also had 41.7% of the attempts for Wisconsin this year. 

 

I fail to see how the B1G rules are dumb.  The divisions are unbalanced sure but PSU won the east fair and square.  And they capped it off by winning the championship game.  PSU isn't in the playoffs becasue they lost to Pitt.  Had they beat Pitt I'm pretty confident that PSU would be in and OSU would be out. 

 

 

jmblue

December 5th, 2016 at 4:11 PM ^

Conference championships, and then head to head have to matter.

Why do conference championships matter?  The Big Ten title is a joke now, with 14 teams playing nine-game schedules, with the teams grouped in unbalanced divisions and a single, decisive game that overrules everything else.

 

Tuebor

December 5th, 2016 at 4:40 PM ^

Because the committee says they should matter. 

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/overview

"The selection committee ranks the teams based on conference championships won, strength of schedule, head-to-head results, comparison of results against common opponents and other factors."

 

Conference championship: PSU wins

Strength of Schedule: OSU wins

Head to head: PSU wins

Common Opponents: OSU wins

Other factors: OSU wins (but IMO this is far more nebulous than the other ones)

 

So PSU was the conference champion and won head to head.  OSU had a better schedule and did better against common opponents and probably got the other factors nod.

 

I can see both sides but IMO I'd give the 4th spot to PSU and bump OSU to 5th.  I'm sure some on the comittee felt that way since OSU dropped to 3rd and PSU jumped to 5th. 

jmblue

December 5th, 2016 at 4:55 PM ^

Evidently the committee doesn't actually believe that, or else OSU wouldn't be in.  

The one principle the committee seems to actually abide by is this: a playoff team shouldn't have more than one loss.  Using that guideline (which is legitimate, IMO) they got it right.  It's easier to write off one loss than two.  PSU dug its own grave by losing to Pitt and then getting blown off the field in Ann Arbor.

 

 

 

lilpenny1316

December 5th, 2016 at 12:27 PM ^

I thought A-Train had a better career, but Tim's was hampered short by injuries.  Both Tim and Wheatley could've had multiple Pro Bowl appearances if they stayed healthy.

Before going back completely to bashing Fred Jackson though, what RBs have OSU produced since Eddie George that were Pro Bowl worthy?  I think OSU gets a bit too much credit for their NFL draft picks, at least on the offensive side of the ball, since John Cooper left.

mgobaran

December 5th, 2016 at 1:21 PM ^

RBs drafted since 1996 (via wikipedia)

  • Joe Montgomery
  • Michael Wiley
  • Jonathan Wells
  • Maurice Clarett
  • Antonio Pittman
  • Chris (Beanie) Wells
  • Dan Herron
  • Carlos Hyde
  • Ezekiel Elliot

So two? Hyde and Elliot? Beanie Wells had 1 decent year in Arizona. 

Moonlight Graham

December 5th, 2016 at 12:10 PM ^

If they did that, they would certainly do it for the purpose of allowing all five P5 champions to have a shot, plus one more at-large. Therefore this year would have been worse for everyone, especially us...

1 Alabama vs. 3/6 OSU-Oklahoma

2 Clemson vs. 4/5 Washington-Penn State

But, but, but ... we woulda FOR SHORE been in with eight teams, and yes it would have been 3 OSU vs. 6 UM which is cool. 1 vs. 8 be interesting rematch of Bama-USC or maybe they put the Group of Five "champion" WMU in as the sacrificial 8 seed. 

Blue Sharpie

December 5th, 2016 at 4:14 PM ^

All the ncaa basketball champions have been 8 seeds or better. 64 teams is just extra fun, but 32 teams would have had the same champion included in every tournament. I think 8 teams in football would capture the real champion in most years. 4 teams won't in many years. And it's a shame to think how many champs were left out in the old 2 team years!